Staffies!
 Then Bloo started whining and tail between his legs. The two staffies were snapping at him and going for his neck, luckily mom had bloos ball thrower to put between them or else bloo would have been well..toast. :But then the owner came round the corner saying` oh i didnt know anyone was here` but bearing in mind there was three other dogs on the park field. If you know you have an aggressive dog why let it off where there are other non aggressive dogs, ecspecially two of them!!! I like staffies but sometimes i think, why?... Why llet them off lead in a public place. If mom didnt push them away they would have locked jaws on bloo! I had never seen them before, so i think i will take bloo in the courts if they are on again. Afetr that incidance the old man put them on the lead. i thought ` yeah you do that, your dogs are life threatening to others!` Sorry for a bit of a rant but i wanted to share that with you  Love sam and bloo  |
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| I'm sorry you had a bad experiance but to catorgorize all staffies as mean "I like staffies but sometimes i think, why?... Why llet them off lead in a public place." is ridiculous. They also don't lock jaws its a myth "If mom didnt push them away they would have locked jaws on bloo!" Any dogs, whether agressive or friendly, shouldn't be off lead unless its in a specific off leash area, not just any old park. Leash laws. If the dogs are there just leave instead of taking him into tennis courts. If the dogs are truely agressive I would just avoid them all together. My brother has had 2 staffies and both are so loving, friendly and well behaved I would trust them off lead over my dog aggressive hound. |
| I'm sorry your poor baby had to go through this. I hope he's ok. |
| He is fine thankyou. Im not saying staffies are all vicious just that those two at the park were.. I have met friendly stafies, and bloo has staffie friends. It was just these two that were snappy i took my money to the rescue centre today and looked around, it was full of staffies, its such ashame. People wont have them because of their bad reputation. I saw them coming towards us and i said `oh look little cuties` stroking thm etc... then SNAP! they were proper going for him,it was scary. The man did apologise and put them back on the lead. (I didnt mean to say it as ALL staffies must be on leads i meant to say the two i saw today.)  My heart was poundin they were ganging up on bloo from etc...all angles, we thought they had gotten out of someones garden :O Sorry i came over as being a bit staffist (if thats a word) im a little bad at explaining hehe... (im a teen so you know :})  Didnt know it was a myth?? Thanks for that useful bit of information  Sam n Bloo xx  |
| In america the same stigma is attached to American pitbull terriers, which now has become any bully breed. Lock jaw became a myth because when "bully breeds" bite onto something they aren't supposed to let go. They're jaws don't lock. Im sorry you and ur dog had to go through this but I would just avoid those two dogs and any dog that thier owner owns in the future. |
| Its ashame they have a finger pointing at them all the time, as they can be great pets like you say. Id never seen them before, they were new to me, i wouldnt like to encounter them again anyways So scary |
| Most staff owner's are morons in the UK. Someone offered to sell me a puupy down the pub. Puppy was 4 weeks old ? & yes few of them are ok with people but they do not get on with other dogs. They are like Jekyll and Hyde & yes they do lock there jaws |
| Most staffie/pittie owners here are morons. I don't trust a dog when I see it......too many are untrained, not socialized. It's enough to carry pepper spray....I've thought about it. One fav walking route is not off limits due to a pittie nearby who is often roaming free. Ditto here in the shelters, so many pitties or pittie mixes. If I see any pittie in a dog I walk right on by. |
| Lock jaw is a myth and its that same ignorance that spreads hate through breeds. If you belive something like that you must belive that all doberman pinchers brains keep growing, when their skull stops and it causes them to go crazy, OES can see through their hair because of reflective light. Here are plenty of links to prove lock jaw is a myth and just like I said they are bred to bite and hold, their jaws don't lock. There are plenty more if you can use google.... http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?t=21454&page=2 http://www.staffyclub.com/forums/display_topic/id_35/Do-staffys-lock-jaw/ http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_staffordshire_bull_terriers_have_lockjaw http://www.pbrc.net/mediacenter/mediaqa.html We had an APBT and Rotties growing up, both were excellent dogs, guess what I'm still alive. |
| You have to remember the APBT was america's dog once. So many different dog breeds go through the same thing, same myths, Doberman Pinchers, St. Bernards, Great Danes, Mastiffs, "Pitties", OES (Our breed has gone through it), German Shepards, Rotties, Dalmations. It's what ever is popular and how the media gets it out there. It really isn't the dogs, remember it's the uneducated owners, uneducated public and media that hurt certain breeds. |
That must have been very scary to you and bloo Any breed can be mean and lots of (pitt bulls" as most are called here) owners do not socialize or train They want for protection or fighting. Many pitts are loving and sloppy kissy. I believe (while we are off the subject a little the thread was about your awful experience) German shepherds have more pressure to the bite than staffies. I do not like dog parks for that reason there are stupid people with dogs in them About a year ago an off duty cop shot and killed a husky because he had his mouth around his GSD's neck All dogs play that way My dogs get each other down like that But the point is it must have been awful for you Please be careful when you take your pup in a dog park Sometimes the pack mentality kicks in. I am glad you are all alright  |
AnInnocentEvil wrote: You have to remember the APBT was america's dog once. So many different dog breeds go through the same thing, same myths, Doberman Pinchers, St. Bernards, Great Danes, Mastiffs, "Pitties", OES (Our breed has gone through it), German Shepards, Rotties, Dalmations. It's what ever is popular and how the media gets it out there. It really isn't the dogs, remember it's the uneducated owners, uneducated public and media that hurt certain breeds. Well said! I think we're at a point where dogs are bred so carelessly that the only logical standpoint for non show quality dogs is that every dog is an individual, regardless of breed, and there is no way to predict their temperament. I also take issue with the "it's how they're raised" argument because we have successfully integrated many pit bull type dogs that were abused/neglected into homes with children, other pets etc. Many of them possess a resilience that is pretty awe inspiring. |
| I think any dog can be nasty...my little yorkie plays rough if it was Summer playing exactly as she does you would think her nasty. I dont think Sam meant anything unkind about staffies. Sam is only young and is a lovely girl. In this instance I think the point is Bloo is Ok and Sam just had a nasty fright....xxx |
KTB wrote: I think any dog can be nasty...my little yorkie plays rough if it was Summer playing exactly as she does you would think her nasty. I dont think Sam meant anything unkind about staffies. Sam is only young and is a lovely girl. In this instance I think the point is Bloo is Ok and Sam just had a nasty fright....xxx It wasn't towards Sam, it was towards Lori and P (Parwaz) after this comment : Parwaz wrote: yes few of them are ok with people but they do not get on with other dogs. They are like Jekyll and Hyde & yes they do lock there jaws I agree Heather, "Pitties" tend to have a will to bounce back, trust and love, even through the roughest of situations. They are probably the one most resilient dogs and sadly probably the most abused. |
| RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said: "Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making - in fact they're wonderful dogs. If people think that Staffies have problems, they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead! When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions. Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's desire to please by training them to show aggression." As most of the owners in the UK of this breed are moorons. My mate beeds them & he is fine & will not sell a dog/bitch to this type of people. The problem is that most people who go after this type of dog is a Mooron & thats why you get so many in shelters/dog homes & most of them have been looked after in shuch a bad way they are so hard to rehome. Not having a go at the type of dog itself but the other end of the lead. Like most dogs not just these also you go to your local Park in the UK & most people avoid these type of dogs with there as tyey have a go & we don't have dog parks |
| So sorry Bloo had a bad experience but glad he is okay! We had a similiar experience with three Shar-pei's...More than two dogs become a pack and that is not always the best thing. I avoid dog parks for that reason - most of the humans here at dog parks don't seem the most responsible. They let their dogs off lead, then chat with everyone and pay no mind to what their dog is doing... Unfortunately, it is the humans who make a bad dog in my opinion and even more unfortunate, seems many Staffies are owned by irresponsible owners...I've even seen some gold retrievers lately that are not the most dog friendly... |
| Diane you are totally corect, it is the owners being irrisponsible, they let the dogs off thinking they are ok, the next minute they are fighting! Any dog is unpredictable whatever the tempermant/can turn any minute, like us humans It isnt a dog park i went to, there arent any dog parks here in england, it was just a normal playing field, where there are children plaaying football and tennis, and people having picnics etc...  I agree there are too many dogs being interbred just lately, we go to the dog kennels and it is FUULL of staffies, rotties, pitbulls etc... all up for rehoming at christmas and it is such ashame. Trouble with rehoming centres you dontknow the background of the dogs... There was one staffie all grey so old, he was the longest stayer, he has been in the kennels for months! I was almost in tears by this point, he was so adorable. Everyone was looking at the collies and the lurchers, and walking them out. Noone wants the fighting breeds because of their bad reputation of well...fighting Eveone has there own opinion xxThanks for the support anyhows love from sam and bloo xx  |
| While I do agree that there are many irresponsible owners, there are so many dogs (staffies and other pittie breeds) being bred for all the wrong reasons. Both times I have been bitten in the face have been these breeds. Please don't call what people say here ridiculous. We may think that of you too - but we try not to say it...  You may feelstrongly about this subject and I understand that. Someone was speaking from personal experience and that does count for something. I really doubt if anyone here would make a blanket statement to include ALL of anything with no exceptions. Let's be nice, k? Shellie |
| The only dogs that I have been attacked by were labs, a german shepard and countless little dogs (which little dogs can have the worst attitude) I have gotten snapped at by a husky with an ear infection (my fault) Lily got attacked a couple days ago by an australian cattle dog, the cattle dog bit through her lip. Irresponsible people own all types of dogs. There is a certian stigma attached to different breeds of dogs not just "pitbulls". I've gotten comments about lily "high maintenance dog, must mean high maintenance chick." About Ritz "yea he likes childern, to eat them" and my extremely dog agressive dog Gideon (hound) "hes such a good ole boy, he would just love to play with my dog wouldn't he?" People keep these veiws and its hard to break them. Pitbull is not a breed it is a generalzation of a type of dog, any mastiff, apbt, staffie, american bull dog, english bulldogs, bull terriers, rottie etc... This is also a discussion everyone is entitled to their own opinion... |
| Pitbull actually means American Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, or Staffordshire Bull Terrier. When you hear "bully breeds" that encompasses more, like American Bulldogs, Boston Terriers etc. The problem is that there are MANY dogs that display similar characteristics to pitbulls, or bully breeds, that are often mischaracterized, so now any short, muscular dog with a round head is a "pit bull". Try to find the pitbull here: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html |
I have had 5 labs over the years & sherwood will be my last. They are great with people & other types of dogs but when a male & male get together they will start a fight most of the time. So when I go to the park I have to keep an eye on him & he knows he will get his butt kicked if he gets out of line but at 13 he sort of grown out of it. I remember when we took Lucy ( one of our Labs to the puppy party at the vets for all new pups) she was small for a lab & hid under the chair next to my feet. There was this puppy staff going oaround trying to fight all the other pups & the nurse did not say alot to the owner ?. Well this staff came up to lucy & tried to bite her but Lucy sprang from under the chair & beat it up  . After the party the nurse pulls me other to one side & tells me that I deed to keep lucy under control, which I flipped & explain to her what this staff was doing all night & she did not say a word  . Also a mate of mine has allways had old English. They do not like other dogs full stop & he looks after them very well but he said thats what they are like. |
HeatherRWM wrote: Pitbull actually means American Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, or Staffordshire Bull Terrier. When you hear "bully breeds" that encompasses more, like American Bulldogs, Boston Terriers etc. The problem is that there are MANY dogs that display similar characteristics to pitbulls, or bully breeds, that are often mischaracterized, so now any short, muscular dog with a round head is a "pit bull". Try to find the pitbull here: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html I can identify half, mostly the mastiffs and the rottie, APBT, catahoula. I had never heard of any of the breeds on the bottom row. I've always wanted a french mastiff, something about their faces, just says squish my face and love me. Plus the fact they are all gingers...I may be biased..lol |
| http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=old+en ... x=92&ty=97 Funny looking dogs but this is what my mate breeds big and strong but not good with other type of dogs |
Parwaz wrote: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=old+english+pitbull+terrier&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=600&tbm=isch&tbnid=q6kBruG4R04N8M:&imgrefurl=http://bull-terrier.purzuit.com/&docid=SgyJRRF1i2RYWM&imgurl=http://www.puppiesdirect.com/images/Breeds/Bull-terrier_adulte_AT_pf.jpg&w=400&h=346&ei=gvPyTtuoKM2l8gP-n9ycAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=7170&sig=104379719931277633930&page=2&tbnh=122&tbnw=140&start=16&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:16&tx=92&ty=97 Funny looking dogs but this is what my mate breeds big and strong but not good with other type of dogs My fiance's friend has a bull terrier. Lily isn't very fond of Bro (the dogs name is Bro) but Bro just LOVES Lily. Bro is a pretty friendly little thing with people and animals alike. |
| I agree it's a horrible experience to be surrounded by two potentially aggressive dogs and sadly it's usually an irresponsible owner that is the cause of a Dogs Bad Press. As a member of HugaBull , our group ask that Pit owners not take their dog to dog parks because if there is a confrontation the Pit will get blamed. Instead we go on group walks (sometimes up to 20 dogs and their people attend. We are joined by other dogs of all breeds and sizes, people from all walks of life and hopefully people observing the well behaved group view that not all Pit Bull/Staffie dogs and their people look and act like those written about in the media. The majority of the dogs have obtained their Good Canine Neighbor. There is no such thing as lock jaw amongst dogs in the animal kingdom. They do have a strong jaw but are not considered the strongest biters (a search on Animal Planets strongest bite scientific project attest to this) I can also say that my bad experiences were from dogs of other breeds. The last time I ever attended a dog park, Merlin was flanked by two dogs, a beautiful Collie (OMG a Lassie lookalike!) and her mate. They ripped into his side which had to be stapled. The owner was a sweet elderly woman. Just goes to show you never know and there may be hidden signs that dogs exhibit to others which may be missed by their humans. Overall, no one should attend a dog park unless they are sure their dog is well socialized but even then, sometimes things happen when two individuals meet and for some reason take a dislike to one another. No dog should be left to run around on city streets or parks. My boy Snoop is hopefully a goodwill ambassador for his breed, living harmoniously with other dogs, sleeps with cats, loves his bunnies and guinea pigs and recently has met 4 new chickens that recently joined our multi species pack. I guess overall while it is frightening to many when coming across an unleashed dog(s) I too have the same fears when I'm walking Snoop on a leash in my neighborhood - praying we don't come across unleashed dogs. Glad you and your boy were okay. 4  |
Ashley wrote: More than two dogs become a pack and that is not always the best thing. I avoid dog parks for that reason - most of the humans here at dog parks don't seem the most responsible. And sometimes even two can be their own pack! Even the sweetest dogs can change when the dynamic shifts. Clyde, Bear and Owen are the easiest going dogs but toss them into a dog park where there's all kinds of excitement and dogs with all kinds of drastically different personalities, they change, too. They stick together and react much differently to situations than they ever would individually. The dog park is really just too stimulating for some dogs. Like Marianne said, too, just like bully breeds, big dogs also get the blame, too, no matter who starts altercations or is at fault in dog park situations. Anymore, I like my dogs to just play with each other or dogs that are known friends. It's safer and you don't have to deal with ignorant people. |
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