pulling...

Well... another problem i have with my naughty sheepie...

Bloo has passed both kennel club awards at training and he is superb at everything! (just very stubborn)
Just lately he is a pulling machine though! He pulls my wrist off, its really painful...
bloo used to be on a perfect fit harness but i found that made him pull more, i then just put him on his collar.. but ... he is choking!! heaving and coughing but doesnt stop!

My trainer and many other people have advised that because we do training each week, to do some heel with him... so.... i tried carrying a bag of apple/carrots or nice yummy ham... yes! he was walking by my side! but then .... YAANK! Hes off again...

He doesnt seem to be bothered by choking at all, the last thing i want is for him to hurt his neck too bad :(
Today i decided to walk him back from my nans home again, we stopped of at the park for a strech of his little legs.. but again he was constantly pulling! I was sweating by half way, he is gettimng really bad.. i find myself yanking on his lead too much but thats the natural instinct to do.. :( i dont know what to do...
im 15 and i walk him all the time... even my mom cant walk him anymore, he is too strong!
....comes to show im stronger than my parents hehe ... :yay:

anywyas any help or ideas would be much appreciated, i said to my mom about a halti? are they any better??? Any advice welcome and .... sorry this post is so long i tried to cut out as many words as i could xx sam :ghug:
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We used the gentle leader harness with Millie before we started her loose leash walking class. This harness does not allow them to pull. You attach their leash to the harness in the front of their chest, and when they try to pull, they just get turned sideways. 8)
Not much fun for them, so they stop pulling. :yay:

It worked for us, then we took a class on loose leash walking and she was fine. Sounds like you are doing the right training with the treats. Just keep practicing, and when he pulls just stand still and call him back to you. Then try again with the treats. It can take a long time, but it's worth it in the end. Good luck!!!

Glad you are working with him. Many adults aren't so patient and responsible. Way to go!! :clappurple: :clappurple: :clappurple:
oh poor Sam we had this with Summer and when she pulled I used to say a sharp "no" and turn round and go back the way we came, it takes days for them to realise that when they pull it gets boring. Can you see what I mean just turn on your heel and walk back. When they arent pulling go on your route. I think one of ours had a halti, think I still have it if you want to give that a try. let me know I can post it off...
As suggested - no forward motion the second they pull. Takes a huge commitment on your part to stick to it, but it works :wink: .

If he pulls and gets what he wants, he'll never stop.
Thankyou everyone!
I have tried walking backwalks again and again.. this once i was waing back and forth this persons house for over half an hour, my nan was going ` you must have been on a super long walk `hehe... and i reply ` no ive just walked up and down the street` :D he doesnt get the message its boring he will just start tugging the lead.. :(
At present i am stopping each time he yanks my arm off. make him sit and then carry on, i used to shout NO!! put that seems to encourage him to pull...
I have a harness with a D ring on the front, bloo seems to think its a game getting spun around in circles :P not fun for me though hehe...

Sue thankyou for the offer. Think i will give it another few months see how he pans out, and if he changes as he grows up. He will be 1 in march next year. If there is no progress, back to training, or like you say try a halti. Think ill keep trying the D ring on the harness, and keep with the treaats.
THANKYOU EVERYBODY!!!! I love reading all your support replys, im so glad i joined this forum ive learning so much...

:wag:
Victoria Stillwell's solution might be an option. They pull to go left.. turn around and go right. It will make your walks more challenging but if they know that you are controlling the direction and speed of the walks they will give in. I saw her use this method on multiple dogs. You are right that getting into a pulling battle is a loss from the start. I think that is why Victoria has success since she is eliminating the "PULL"
My solution is just to stop all forward motion at the first hint of pulling.
This requires infinite patience in the beginning. If you can get just one step forward without pulling, quickly reward. The sooner you start puppies with this process, the quicker they learn. It once took me half an hour to get from my front door to the end of the driveway (maybe 50 ft?) but it was worth it. From that day on, we were able to build on that foundation of understanding that PULLING = STOP. They still need a reminder session every once in a while but it doesn't take long at all for the lesson to come back to them. This is basically the same as Victoria Stillwell's "turn-around and go the other way" scenario. You might want to try both stopping and/or turning to see which works best for you.
Don't attempt a long walk at first. Try to build success obtained on a very short walk first. Just my suggestion but it has worked well for us. -Linda Z
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As suggested - no forward motion the second they pull. Takes a huge commitment on your part to stick to it, but it works :wink: .

If he pulls and gets what he wants, he'll never stop.


I spoke to Dawn about this problem when Mady was probably Bloo's age and followed her 'no forward motion the second they pull' advice. It is hard at first, because you really have to be consistent and it can be a bit embarrassing. I live on a busy street and I would take two steps, Mady would pull, I would stop, and we would do this over and over and over. I looked silly walking down the street. But it did work! Mady still tries every once in a while but I go back to stopping the second she pulls and then she remembers, oh no, if I pull we go no where! Now I look great walking down the street with a relaxed leash and a lovely dog walking beside me. But you really have to be consistent and stop every single time Bloo pulls.
thankyou...
it will be a long long process but i will try the stop start thing see how he gets on...
will keep you updated thanks again
xx sam xx
Hey Sam, hope things are going well? I wouldn't be able to walk Rufus without his Gentle Leader. I'm pretty sure I got his from Pets At Home, he is a size Large. It took him a couple of long walks before he got used to it but it was WELL WORTH the effort!! It's like a miracle, seriously it's brilliant :D Even now if I put him on a normal collar, he pulls like crazy, but not at all with the Gentle Leader :D For me, it worked much better than the Halti and the Canny Collar, but you might want to look into those too :ghug:
i thanks again..
ive just come home from a walk around the block and i tried using him on the D ring of his harness..his leg was a little funny limping as he walked along but he DIDNT pull which was a bonus. he was a little confused and keep pushing me off the footpath though hehe... hope it works again next time :D
thanks for the ideas.
good boy Bloo.... :aww: dont push your Mum it isnt kind.... :wag: :aww:
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