Questions for the new coming OES
I just got my little boy OES couple days ago. He is 8-9 weeks old. Sometimes he is very active, especially after showering. He likes biting things, shoes, socks, foot, etc.. We are living in a condo, he is not potty trained.. we bought those peepad for him.. sometimes he pees there, sometimes not.. I guess that he still doesn't know that he needs to pee on the same spot everytime.. same as poop.. We take him outside every morning and evening (maybe twice in the evening).. We have work, he will be alone during the 8 more hours though (very sad about that).. My main concern is that everytime he finishes eating, he will poop right away.. it seems like there is no time for him to digest the food.. IS THAT NORMAL?? if we take him outside, he will poop and pee outside. Right now, he seems like he can't hold his poop.. not even 10 mins after eating.. so as soon as he finishes eating, then we need to take him out right away.. 1. Please help, doesn't any baby OES have this kind of problems? 2. How much the little OES suppose to eat every meal? and how many times a day?? Thanks a bunch!! |
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| Most little puppies have to poop right away after they eat. Food goes in, poop comes out. This interval stretches out a bit as they age. I have 2 exceptions at my house. Our rat terrier Riley had guts of steel even as a puppy. I would put him out after eating...no poop. Wait 15 minutes...no poop...it was so unusual - he would wait almost an hour before pooping!  He still is like that as an adult.Then we have Simon. He's a basset hound. He is still like a puppy - he has to poop right after he eats! He's almost 13 years old now, so I doubt this is ever going to change  At your pup's age, they need to eat 3 meals/day. And they need to go out right after to do their potties, or it will come out in your house. Potty pads aren't that great for bigger breeds like OES - they grow rapidly and it's a disgustingly large amount of pee and poop to catch on a pad and clean up. And when you are gone - they will chew them up. If they eat them, the plastic backing can easily cause a bowel obstruction.  There is no way a little pup is going to be able to hold pee and poop for 8 hours. They just can't. You are going to come home to pee and poop. Hopefully you can juggle work breaks, have a friend or relative stop by or something for a few months during the day to let your puppy out. |
| When we got Caitlyn, Jen and I swapped coming home at lunchtime for about two months. Jen would come home MWF and I did TTH. Her car gets better mileage and she works closer to home. We found that during that first week or so, we were cleaning up a pee soaked puppy. Caitlyn must not have like this too much because she quickly stopped peeing in her crate in the mornings. She did continue peeing in the afternoons for a while. It all stopped right around 3 months, maybe a little later. Even after moving her to all day in the crate, she still left us with a puddle a couple days a week for the first couple weeks. Then she got wise to that and even this ended. Now it's a very rare time when we have a puddle. Lucky for us, she never pooed in the crate. Zoey on the other hand... she has a VERY sensitive tummy. There have been three or four time we've come home to a VERY big mess both inside and outside the crate. I remember one time, when we crated both Zoey and Bentley next to each other, she must have been trying to turn around and sprayed poo everywhere... even into poor Bentley's crate. When I came home, he was crouched all the way over to one side to stay as far away as he could. I felt so bad for both of them that day. Early on, during every waking hour while we were home, we'd take her outside every two hours and straight away after eating and playing. She learned pretty quick that she was heading outside after eating. We still push this and she'll be six months on Saturday. I got to saying to her to 'squat and squirt' when i first started taking her out. Even now, she'll almost pee on that command. It's really kinda cute. We even have Zoey, our 3 year old Sheepie trained to do the same thing. Caitlyn is bell trained for the most part now. Zoey hovers at the back door. So long as we're not totally ignoring her, she's fine. Just keep up with it. Yeah, hearing that it takes months seems like a long time, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not. One day will come and you'll wish for these puppy days back. Take the good with the bad and you'll be fine. Vance |
| My dh has a saying "food in, food out". I find this to be very true for all species. Remember puppies are BABIES. They have VERY small bladders and need to potty often. In the beginning the middle of the night potties are a pain...but they have to be done. Going out once or twice in the morning or evening is not going to do it. I agree with Dawn on the puppy pads. If you want to teach your dog to go outside to do its business, thats how you train them. As far as leaving a pup in the crate all day when you are working...its a fact of life that we have to work. I've done it with multiple dogs. Its hard to leave when you know you can't come home to let the poor thing out....we and they live through it...although sometimes you have to wash a stinky or wet puppy when you get home. Most of all, enjoy your baby. Ignore the bad, celebrate the good. They grow so fast. Oh yeah, WE NEED PICTURES! |
| It is true of all mammals, I think. It's a know reflex the gastro something or other reflex (too long since I studied anatomy). When the opening to the stomach is stretched to let food in it sends a signal to the bowel to start contracting and poop is the result. Helps prevent a traffic jam in the gut. |
| We have two sheepies, both adults. One needs to eat three times a day because of a stomach acid issue. So, they both are on the same schedule. One eats three times a day and poops once, maybe twice. The other goes three times a day, within minutes of eating. Remember, the poop that comes out is from an earlier meal. It's not the food that just went in. I liked the earlier comment that they're just making room. My hubby calls it the circle of poop....in, middle, out, in, middle, out... |
| Puppies cannot be expected to show up knowing all the rules that most dogs adhere to. YOU have to help them to learn those rules, including House-breaking or "potty training". When we got our 2 puppies (think twice as much poop and pee) we bought a few books to help us out. And I recall reading the following advice that was really helpful: ALWAYS take them out after an activity. Wake up from a nap? Go out and pee. Have a drink of water? Go out and pee. Play together with some toys? Go out and pee. Have a meal? go out and pee. Race around the house like a total spaz? Go out and pee! And the key is to always GO OUT and pee. Using those pads is simply training them to stay IN and pee. Dogs aren't like cats- they don't have a naturally instinct to find a litter box, do their business and then bury it. You have to show them where you want them to eliminate their waste. And if you show them potty pads, then you are telling them its okay to go in the house. Also, its important to understand now that you are in for a lot of accidents. Most dogs are completely house-trained by 6 months. That means you can still have accidents up until that late. One of my girls was a VERY slow learner, and it was 10 months before she was 100%. Its important to be patient and understanding. You wouldn't be mad at a baby for filling it's diaper- you can't be mad a t a puppy for having an accident. And praise is a HUGE training tool. Every time our girls did their eliminating outdoors, we'd say "So good! Very good!" and give them a treat right away. They're now 4 years old, and if we're outside and i tell them to "Be Good" they'll pee on command! A handy trick for when we all travel together. |
| what do you mean but showering? literally showering? I think a good amount of time to bathe a puppy is once every 2 weeks... but others may have more info on that are you kenneling or crating puppy while gone at work? there is a LOT an unsupervised puppy can get into...some dangerous are you taking some vacation time to spend with puppy? getting into a routine is important. get some puppy training books. I read puppy training for dummies, or something close to that when I got my first dog. lots of great basic info there and read lots on this forum, there is a ton of great info on here welcome to your new fur baby! |
| Thanks so much for all the replies.. the little baby is doing good.. the only reason we bought peepad for him is that we are living in a condo right now.. I think 70% of the time, he will pee on the peepad.. and whenever we take him out, he will pee and poop outside as well.. He always feels hot thats why he drinks lots of water.. and we sometimes give him an ice cube to play with (I think he likes it).. Overall, I am very happy to have this little silly guy=) *will figure out how to upload some pics* |
| Don't feel bad about leaving your dog alone for eight hours. Ours is in the same situation. And I'm sure that he is a happy, balanced dog based on his behavior. It's all about the quality of time you spend with your pet. Big breed = lots of pee and poop. A good solution for your case could be a dog potty that keeps paws dry, like the UGODOG (http://www.ugodog.net/). If the crate is big enough, you could even fit the potty inside to avoid having to shower your puppy too often. Another thing is also the amount of water your dog drinks. Kibble prompts dogs to drink astonishing amounts of water => pee more. When we adopted Bero, I started him off on BARF right away. A friend suggested that kibble would be easier for me, so I tried that for a short while, too. He was unable to hold neither the poop, nor the pee by the time I got back home after work. Switched him back to BARF and, believe it or not, with constant access to fresh water and a certain spot in the garage that he used as a bathroom (never being told off about it!), Bero can hold his pee and poop for up to 11,5 hours. Granted, he is four-five years old but the type of food is also a big factor. |
| This little guy has problems again.. he has very very soft poop.. it's like watery/liquid.. he's only 8/9 weeks baby.. He seems okay and still playful.. I bought Pepto Bismol for him and cooked white rice as well.. i fed him white rice with 1 teaspoon pepto bismol.. he doesn't like to eat.. worried =(.. i am thinking to make him a congee... if its still not getting better.. i will have to take him to the doctor.. wondering if anyone had the same situation before? |
| Are you actually giving him the teaspoon of Pepto Bismal right into his mouth with a syringe or just adding it to his food? If he is not eating the rice (not uncommon) then he is not getting the Pepto. Is he still drinking? Is he still playful? |
| mine had very loose stools, even to the point of being bloody, while they were young. It turned out that they were allergic to the grain in their food. I'd talk to a vet and see what they have to say. |
| how many days have you had him? did you change food? have you given new treats? is he chewing a lot? (rawhides, etc...) have you changed water? all these things can cause loose stools |
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