Hes getting worse
Bloo has always had a habit of nipping and biting us, but just lately now his big teeth are in, he bites me, and leaves bruises all over, ive had to go to school today with sore arms. We have always took it deadly seriou, tried shouting, trid being a tree, tried bricks in a bottle. Hes so stubborn nothings working. All i know is this has to stop!When i ignore him he will bit my bum!Im covered in bumps and lumps! How do i stop him, at training too he isnt doing as hes told as if hes forgot EVERYTHING. He used to do 2 min stay now he does 2 seconds! His recall is rubbish too! HE USED TO BE SOO GOOD!!!  whats happened to by little blooey??? Hes a right monster the past month or two. Will neutering calm him down?? is he biting as hes being dominent?? i dont know PLEASE help needed. Im going to turn purple before next week.Ps; when i get up in the morning, hell bark at stairgate, when i come down he will bite and make grumbly sounds (hes happy) then...like this morning he jumps up and grabs me and leaves me with painful bruised arms!! Now everytime he does it i just walk off and ignore him, trouble is is that he follows me and chews my leg or something and barks!! Im stuck in this sticky situationAnyone been through it???  |
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| I don't think that neutering him will address all of your issues. I am a firm believer in getting on top of things quick, training and rewarding to solve "problems" and get help ASAP if there is an issue I can not correct in a week or so of FIRM, CONSISTENT TRAINING with ALL members of the house on the same page. Are you working with him on a daily basis? You need to ask your self am I being firm, consistent and direct with my training. If you answer yes then you need to get help from a professional. They may see something in your training that is not clear to your pup, may have other suggestions to correct the problem or find another angle so that your pup understands the behavior you want. It seems that you have been working on some of this on your own but are not satisfied with the results you are getting so far. I assume that he has been getting his exercise to burn off some of that puppy energy. I use trainers for my dogs and horses and they see things that I don't and are always helpful coming up with ideas for me to get the response that I want. It is amazing what others can see standing watching me work that can have a big impact on our animals. A wrong turn of my shoulders in agility can send Bella in the wrong direction, the timing of a voice commend a little too late. don't hesitate. we have all used trainers at different times for different reasons. |
| Thanks, we go training once a week, and between each session we have homework to keep on with the training. Trainer said they all have weeks where they dont want to do things, but bloo has always done it perfect, last week he refused point blank no... bit hrd as the silver test is nextweek!! Im hoping hell grow out of it, im going to stay positive it will stop be firm and carry on. I stand tall over him and act not scared and stroke him even though hes trying to nip me, just walk about and ignore him.. hope he grows up anyway, hehe.... thanks for that help anyway xx  Thats he other thing, at training theres like another 5 of us, have to do things like loose lead walking by other dos, recall through the dogs, heel around dogs etc... so hard as bloo is so dog motivated, he sees a dog hes off! |
| Gail is right; this is a training issue. We;re facing some of the same things with Caitlyn who is only 5 months. It takes time and patience, and love. He'll come around to your way of thinking and be a better dog for it. Vance |
| Most importantly, don't be discouraged! When Nelson was in puppy manners class he was an absolute terror. He did everything he was supposed to do for us at home but seemed to check his brain at the door of the training center. All he was interested in were the other dogs in the class. Today we couldn't ask for a better behaved dog. We just kept working with him and made sure he exercised a lot and was somewhat tired when we did our homework for the class. It really helped the focus. As for the biting, most of that is due to Bloo's age but absolutely not something to be tolerated. Trade your hand for a toy that he's allowed to chew on. Reward with treats if food motivated. Or toys or praise or whatever does motivate him. This is a very important phase for a puppy and you can't let them get away with anything. Don't cave in to the demands for things to be his way. Nothing In Life Is Free: He must work for everything from food to your undivided attention, privileges on the furniture, Everything! If you let them get by with something just once, you're taking a major step backwards. As mentioned earlier, that goes for all members of the family. Don't let one person sabotage your efforts. Everyone has to be on board with the program. Hang in there, it DOES get better! Puppies as well as older dogs do go through a "honeymoon phase" where they appear to have the hang of housebreaking and training but then tend to go brainless. Makes you wonder what you did wrong. It often does take a professional trainer to point the cause out to you, which in itself is a great reason for everyone to use a qualified trainer. Seriously, you learn more than your dog does but that's okay. You'll always have that information and can use it for years to come. Many of the dogs we get into rescue are from homes that go through the frustration you are now facing. Their dogs aren't bad but they just feel like they can't deal with them, usually because there are small children in the home. Just take it one day at a time, keep working with your trainer's guidance and have patience, patience patience! |
| at Bella's last herding lesson our trainer actually intentionally scheduled two other students to come but work in a different pen which abutted the two rings Bella and I were working in. She had a 4th student scheduled after Bella and she had her come 15 minutes early to sit and watch outside of our pen. She also had her daughter and her boyfriend come and watch. After our lesson she told me everything that she had done and didn't want me to know in advance so that I wouldn't worry. Since Bella had been working so well she wanted to up the ante and see how Bella would work with the distractions and was Bella going to stay focused on me and do the JOB I was asking her to do. She basically wants us to train harder so that when we go to an event it will seem easy because we have tested our bond and work together that much more. She is a herding judge and mentioned that at the last trial she was at, another dog and handler was standing right up next to the fence. Not technically allowed and her student was about to start her run. You never know what you might face out at a dog park, trial, where ever you take your pup so it is best to work and practice in all cases possible. Maybe you need to change up where you are practicing. I can always get great responses at home and Bella did good with the other dogs working and sheep in other pens, but boy that teenage girl and boy they were WAY TO FUN and so of course Bella had to say HI  |
thanks a lot  He does that. Trains perfect at home get to training class and does nothing right!!! his brain goes on vacantion when we leave the front door i think haha.. Each time i cross a road i make him sit and wait. When we walk past another dog i tend to either make him sit and wait, or heel closely. At the moment its the recall im struggling with and the biting. He spots another dog hes off, bouncing all over it He chses birds, runs off squeking his toy. Just lately is a real trouble maker  Thanks for all the helpful advise, will take it all onboard |
| Hi Sam, you are doing really well with Bloo. Cant remember how old you are! but you haven't had experience with dogs. Bloo needs to know you are the boss. When he nips say "no" in a deep cross voice and walk away from him. If he follows and bites your leg do the same again. If he continues take his lead and calmly put him in another room. Let him out after 5 minutes if he nips again return him to isolation. He loves you and wants to play but he has to learn proper manners. You will get there dont worry...xxx |
| Thanks sue xx im 15 I am doing that at the moment he gos off sulking hehe... |
Hi Sam, Ru used to be like this as well. I even got a trainer to come to my house and he pointed out loads of things I was doing wrong (letting him get away with stuff and even boss me about) but I didn't realise I was spoiling him! It's like when a child tries to push the boundaries to see how much they can get away with. Ru used to get over excited and jump up and bite. He even jumped up and bit my trousers in the garden when we were playing- he pulled my trousers right down!!  It does take a lot of time, and a lot of patience. You feel like you are repeating the same stuff over & over, but your dog needs to realise YOU are the boss. This just means staying calm but also being assertive. Shouting won't help, loud noises will just make him more excited or even fearful. Maybe your trainer can help you out? Rufus has not been neutered and he is much better behaved now. I think he was about 2 - 2.5 years when he had really calmed down & made it through those teenage tantrums  Exercise is the best way to keep them calm too, a good run usually works  |
| Hey We had the same issue. We tried EVERYTHING to stop the biting. The only thing that worked consistently and more-or-less prevented it from happening (eventually) was to take him away as soon as anything happened. I put the lead on him, took him away into the kitchen, told him he was naughty and tied him up. I then left the room or stayed (if I needed to be in there) and ignored him for a good 5 mins. I needed to tie him up in a few knots to a cupboard door as he was VERY good at breaking loose! He would bark at this etc etc. He would also try everything to stop being tied up, such as sitting down, pawing me, licking me. The behaviour has more-or-less gone. If any signs show, he gets the same treatment. I think one of the main reasons it works is that he loves being around us all so being taken away waws the best "punishment" for him. I did feel guilty at first but it was a last resort and worked so well we don't need to do it anymore. It also happened when we were out for walks so he got the same treatment - as long as there was somewhere safe to do it. If not, I could pretend I was tying him up, and hold the lead into a bush or something and turn my back on him. Andy. |
| Using a crate for "time outs" would be advisable over tying any dog up and leaving it unattended. Especially a puppy who could easily strangle itself with the leash. Besides, a frustrated puppy can do a lot of damage to cabinetry. Even a bored puppy allowed loose in a room will chew on furniture or anything that appeals to them at the moment. Gating in a laundry room or another room that is dog-proofed or a crate is always a better option. Just be sure not to make this area a spot that the pup will dread going to. Keep plenty of safe toys or chews available and make it a cozy place. Just being removed from the rest of the family for a few minutes is punishment enough. |
| I can only tell you what works for us. But it's still an ongoing process and we're anxiously waiting for his teenage years where all our hard work temporarily goes down the drain.... 1) nipping hands: biggest issue with Schubert. However, he's gotten SOOO much better! I taught him the command "gentle" whenever he takes food from our fingers, you say "gentle" and don't give him the treat until he ever so gently uses gets it out of your hands. Sometimes, I put my hand/fingers in his mouth and say "gentle" and at first he used to bite down hard, but now, he has wonderful bite inhibition and keeps my hand in his mouth with no pressure. 2) nipping at legs: We've each lost 2 pairs of pants, and I lost 3 stockings. We are still utilizing the "Leave it" and "time out." We alternated between crating him and tethering up in one area. But the time outs are never more than 2 minutes. 3) Recall: Schubert has the best recall, and I owe it to playing hide and seek. Nick and I would take turns hiding with a treat somewhere around the house and he would look everywhere to find us. When we are at the park, we take turns hiding behind the trees and calling him. He gets so excited when he finds you. There are many many posts on the forum about biting and I've read most of them. They were very helpful. |
| It's awesome he's in training. Two questions/ideas: 1. How much exercise is he getting? I know a tired dog is a happy dog. 2. Also, if you always give him a job, he's less likely to make one of his own. For instance . . . in the morning to avoid another bruised arm, come down with a toy and immediately throw the toy to have him get it . . . then praise him when he does. It might help a bit. We didn't allow Bing near us when he was young without a toy in his mouth. This allowed us to be together, but without the bruises. It was the "stuff and love" method. It does get better with perseverance, love, and firmness. Good luck!!! |
| THANKYOU!!! xxxx Will try the toys, i am doing it now, each time he goes to grab my arm, stuff a toy or bone in his mouth instead hehe... |
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