brush or comb?
 )I use a comb to do undercoat, slicker brush, and double sided metal brush for top coat. I just wondered if i should be using any specific typs of brush or comb. I have seen furminators in the pet shops but not sure if it damages the coats? Thanks BB  |
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| It really depends on what type of coat you want to keep. I am working on a good show coat--keeping length and as much undercoat as possible, so I use a pin brush (all systems #1) and a poodle comb sparingly for any mats. Some others on the forum use chris christiansan or madden pin brushes. It all depends on personal preference. I'm sure others will have suggestions for you and I know there have been posts in the past dealing with this issue. Try searching for "brush". Good luck!!  |
| No furminator on an OES! It yanks the coat out and can be very uncomfortable for the dog. A good pin brush, a comb and a slicker can get you through just fine as long as you're line brushing regularly. If you're using a comb on the undercoat, there's a good chance you're removing a lot of it but as long as you aren't showing, and keep up with removing it, that's not really much of an issue. The dog will just look more shaggy and less fluffy. Less undercoat does make grooming easier! |
| if you are wanting to remove the undercoat try a coat king posting.php?mode=reply&f=7&t=34880 you may have to mix and match depending on the fur type i have to use 2 different ones on billy one for the harsh grey one for the soft whites. does keep matting down, i can get a carrier bag full every 2 weeks! when i groom billy i first start with an undercoat rake this spots all the problem areas as its like a wide come. i then use a matt breaker to break down the matts into smaller matts, then brush out with a slicker then a fine come, leave a little bit and its back the next day. you can get sprays like ice on ice, the stuff or cowboy magic detangler and shine which help prevent matts. ferminatores are a definate no no. just remember a comb never lies where a brush can go over matts. pay attention to problem areas like behind the ears, armpits, top of the back legs. just about anywhere that can get friction. you have now entered to world of dematting or clipping off.... brace yourself.. i dont think it gets any better lol billy is 5 and is getting matts from hell, i currently brush him every other day and the matts are just breeding. i am a groomer, i sort of know how to deal with matts, but the constant onslaught of matts is doing my head in. i finish grooming between 6-8 then have to sort him out. phrrgh good luck xx |
| Thanks alot! I wont use furminators, my mom saw them in pet store and said i dont no whether we should try. We arent showing him no, just want him to have a matt free coat. He gs very knotty under the arms/ears/belly, i have to wait for him to sleep so i can chop them off. I will buy some new combs and brushes, i just want toi keep his coat looking tidy and clean  |
| What you're using seems great, but really try and get in the habit of line grooming. It will save your back in the long run!! I'm not showing Bingley now, but I still like some coat, so I use a pin brush all over and a comb sparingly . . . unless I'm working on getting rid of undercoat, and then I use more of the comb. |
| To brush your dog use a mason & pearson brush. Great for oes. Line brush your dog. The stage between puppy & junior coat will be hard but as long as you take out the matts & you will be fine. If you are not going to show then shave the belly area & the pits & leave the rest. Try & teach you dog to lie down while grooming |
| THANKYOU im definately trying the line grooming method, never heard of it before, this forum is great! I use the comb because his furs so thick and dense (puppy coat) it reaches more. I noticed that when a use the wire brush the matts build up really quickly. I have a slicker brush too, but dont use it as it may hurt his skin. I dont want to get rid of the undercoat as i read its what keeps them warm, and dry (waterproof) Making bloo lie down whilst brushing is hard enough itself. I make him sit and down and give him a puppy tubo or something he can chew on. (usually a carrot) Then i brush him. I do one side make him turn over but then he walks off, hes left half soft, half knotty!!!! He gets bored easy and hates grooming! I find it relaxing brushing him and i try my best, it usually take 15-30 minutes if i do it bit by bit, then another 10 mintues finng the matts. He gets reckless and moody. He will let you know when hes had enough. I give him a treat as he is young, i want him to associate brush with nice things. # I have noticed the furs growing bck around his private parts, can you cut this yourself or would you take dog to grroomer for them to shave it. I dont want to take him back to a groomer as i took him before, and they shaved most his fur!! I only asked for his fringe to be trimmed!  He gets matted where the wee gets stuck in his fur etc....I think ill keep under the belly short but keep top long. I asked for a grooming kit for christmas, as when im older i want to be a groomer, i love this forum because people give excellant advice, im learning each day. e.g linear method i had heard of, im glad i heard of this forum though!!!! THANKS ALOT FOR THE HELP  |
| I love the pin brushes- make sure they don't have the little heads on the end of the pins, as that can get caught and pull! I also have a comb that I don't know if anyone uses, but its been great for us. Its called "the Un-tangler" and the little comb pins actually spin. For whatever reason, I have an easier time dematting with this comb than any other, and my dogs tolerate it more than many other tools. I had a forum member recommend the Les Pooches slicker brush with the bent tines, and I have to say, its also been outstanding! Otherwise, I've got mostly Chris Christensen brushes and combs. |
| Ditto, no Furminators.......if they even work and often don't in OES, they pull out undercoat which you need to keep your baby fluffy. I use a Furminator on Harry (OES x coonhound) when he's in shedding season. OES don't have a shed season. Undercoat doesn't come popping out on it's own. |
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