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Clyde does it to Lucy and they're the same size now. Lucy takes it until she finally has had enough and then she lets him know, then he stops. Your little one isn't actually getting hurt, is he? If it's more of an annoyance thing, I'd let it work itself out between them. |
O.K.,Angel does let him know when she has had enough.I am just worried that it will turn into a fight.Cody seems to get in enough trouble on his own..Cody is only going to get bigger & bigger..I don't want Angel to get hurt.. |
same thing with tecumseh and dunkn, im just afraid that tecumseh is getting so big, but yet still so young, he doesnt realize how hard he's playing with dunkn......
but... when i finally get tecumseh settled down, dunkn goes right back and gets it started again, i figure if he was getting hurt, he would try to avoid instead of instigate |
Charlie does this to my 7 yr. old lab all the time. Charlie is up Rebel's butt all day, yelling in his ears, nipping & tugging at him, throwing toys at him.....it is endless. It's not aggressive behavior, it's his herding instincts and the fact that Charlie is not a year old yet. He wants to play and have the attention and Rebel just can't be bothered most of the time. Rebel lets it go on ALL day and most times, just ignores him UNTIL he's had enough. Then this pretty quiet, mellow black lab makes his CUJO face and Charlie backs down.....for a few minutes at least. Sometimes, I put one of them in the cage for a few minutes so that they can calm down. It ususally works. |
Ok, the last week, Tecumseh has gotten really aggresive towards dunkn, i dont know if he's just being a brat....... or if he really intends to try showing him who is boss, but im constantly yelling at him to let go of dunkn
he is grabbing a hold of dunkn anyway he can, usually by the ear, face, or any fur he can, and then proceeds to drag him.. he does not stop when dunkn yelps.... jst2cute |
What kind of dog is dunkin? Can he hold his own or are you worried he's really going to get hurt? |
Dunkn is a shih tzu, he is 3 weeks older than tuc, 17 weeks.... he really lets loose on tuc too, but with the size difference, im afraid tuc's really going to hurt him.
and when i seperate them, they both go crazy, then take a short nap, then go nuts because they arent with each other.... its changed so much that dunkn actually tries to find somewhere to hide at times, he's never done this before so i figure its getting out of hand....have even sprayed bitter apple on dunkn to see if that would atleast cut down on the grabbing and biting, which it does for about 5 min Tuc has never played with a dog bigger than him....and Im wondering if he got a little taste of what its like to be roughed up a little if that would help him with dunkn..... was hoping to take him to play with rosie, but after the last weekend, i thought it was best to wait til we get the tests back before i let him start roughing around too much |
I know Clyde doesn't care what size the dog is-- unless they're way bigger. At obedience class, the trainer brought in her full-grown Mastiff and Clyde looked up at him and immediately went submissive. I've never seen him do that before.
Like I said, Lucy is his size and it doesn't slow him down. He bugs her constantly. I think it's just his age more than anything-- unfortunately you have 2 with the same attitude! All I can say is, good luck! |
I don't allow it. Yuki (oes) does it all the time when playing with dogs her size. They are all coincidently herding dogs, and it's all play. If one of the dogs seem annoyed, they will handle it.
I think that same play with a big dog and a toy dogs is different. She plays with little Isis (a 6lb maltese) ...and quite frankly Isis can hold her own ...but even when a big dog isn't biting ...or "just playing" ...it can hurt a lot. It can hurt a lot to feel a small dog too, but anyways ...I'm steering from the point. When Yuki does it to Isis, she can (but hasn't) grab her entire head, and it just isn't worth that once bad play session for me (esp. as they age and get grumpy) for Yuki to accidently grab something she isn't supposed to. I remember on this thread way back there was someone posting about their big dog accidently grabbing their small dog and it tore it's eye socket out. Was it a shih tzu? I just remember when I first came to this board... I did a search for small dogs and big ones, and I think there was a story like that. |
Farley's most bestest playmate was a minitiature Dachshund. I say "was" because the dog has moved away (not because of Farley).
Aside from the Dachshund being very able to defend himself - Farley knew somehow to be more gentle with him. He'd lay flat on his belly and sort of head wrestle with the little guy. And more often than not - it was the Dachshund who was initiating the play! Even so - after each event - the little guy would be sopping wet with Farley's spit. The poor thing was guaranteed a bath every time he came over to visit! |
I would definitly supervise and if he starts grabbing a little dog by the head then break it up and give him a time out. I think like everyone else said - it's all fun and games to the big dogs but they can snap their necks or puncture someone's eye even if they don't mean to.
I have to do the same thing with Kiley and Momo - (Kiley is a cat) but he does not know how to say "no" to his beloved Momoko - sometimes when he DID want to say no she did it anyway - or tried to pull the same stunts with the other cats that were not as submissive as he is... owie. She would scruff him, bite his face, and stomp him just to name a few - whenever she started doing this I seperated them and put her in her crate and put in treats to calm her down. I would come back after a little while when she was calm and took her out again. She is doing worlds better now, and while she mouths him or ethusiastically licks his poor cat body to the point of cowlick city - this is much better than her trying to squish him. |
I just wanted to add that little dogs (and other little animals) and big dogs can get along just great! But you have to make sure you set limits for your big dogs so no one gets hurt.
This is comming from someone who has owned very small to med dogs all her life. While I'm not too worried about my mediums - people who own toys are quite protective - because a well placed bite no matter how friendly can really hurt your little pup (or even kill them!) Even a friendly bite from our big pups could mean losing potential toy playmates. I just wanted to add that I felt that they could get along just in case my last post didn't sound too optimistic. |
Zoey has 2 little pixie dog friends in the neighborhood, these dogs are teeny. She's never displayed any tendency to grab them or carry them around. I'm sure she could if she wanted cause my work boots probably weigh more than these dogs and she carries those boots all over the place. She loves chasing them (and they chase back) but she is so fast it's not much of chase. She catches up to them and jumps over them, not on top of them. She lands so they are standing between her legs. Kinda freaks them out, but No puppies have ever hurt each other.
Now.........my cat is a different story. Zoey loves to torment the cat, who is also much smaller than her. It is her sworn duty to ram the cat with her nose everytime Harry (the cat) is crazy enough to get within range. She never bites, just rams. Thank God harry can jump on the countertops and he's still a tad bit faster than Zoey. However, I am getting worried. Zoey sees Harry climbing all over the place and has recently begun mimicking. She has tried numerous times to walk across the backs of furniture or jump on semi-high tables, or jump from thing to thing to thing while in hot pursuit. She has even tried to walk on the windowsill like the cat can do, but came crashing down behind the couch in a loud puppy thump. Harry was on top of the fridge last night and Zoey was just staring at him. I'm sure she was trying to figure out a way to get up there. |
Just a thought...has anyone else noticed how an older dog treats a puppy. They usually turn their head to the side so they don't bite the puppy. I have seen this with my beagle and then this last weekend with my neighbors yellow lab in reference to my pup OES. The dogs have an order of things, and older ones take so much from the younger ones before they have to defend themselves, but yet they still use considerable restraint. Like I said just a thought. |
BP wrote: Just a thought...has anyone else noticed how an older dog treats a puppy. They usually turn their head to the side so they don't bite the puppy. I have seen this with my beagle and then this last weekend with my neighbors yellow lab in reference to my pup OES. The dogs have an order of things, and older ones take so much from the younger ones before they have to defend themselves, but yet they still use considerable restraint. Like I said just a thought.
Lucy still does this too an extent but now that Clyde's bigger than her, she needs to start defending herself! |
Even my cat Winston knew the dogs were babies when we brought them home. He is a BIG cat, about 20 lbs, and not overly fat, he is really LARGE. LOL He would hold Dancer down with one paw when she got too rambunctious. When we brought Sky home, dancer was very gentle, tolerant and maternal towards her. When Sky got too rowdy Dancer would put her in her place by holding her still for a moment...
Both dogs also show clearly that they know the difference between big kids like mine, or little ones like my cousins youngest, who would hold onto Dancer when he was learning to walk last year. They are both so gentle with babies.... |
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