How to remove brown discoloration?
 Joy had the flu, respiratory infection, when we were at the summerholiday.  She is well now, however her white fur is brown (more than usual) around one eye and below her nose and mouth.  We lost the show at Bjerke in Oslo because of her illness, and maybe we need to passe the Swedish Clubshow too. Maybe you have answered this before here some place at the forum.....it's so much here. Please be patient to tell again: How to make her lovely hairy face white again..... ...............fast and very quickly?  |
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Poor Joy! I will let the experts talk about getting the whites whiter, but I wanted to at least send her some hugs!  |
Mady wrote: Poor Joy! I will let the experts talk about getting the whites whiter, but I wanted to at least send her some hugs!  Too much wet kisses to you from Joy........I am so happy; She has recovered from the bad cold now.  All the time she has been looking fine, full speed,also when she had fever (39,8 C) You know youngsters......having fun always..  She doesn't look fit for showing, with the almost black bear and brown discolor around her eyes. I'll wait to reed the experts advice, o'course. |
| I had heard that making a paste of corn starch and water and rubbing it in, then rinsing it, can help remove the stains and it is safe to use. Hopefully Lisa from Australia will post, her dogs whites blind me!!! |
| You can use peroxide but be very careful it does not get into her eyes or mouth.I have used it but never near eyes or the mouth. If you do use this method it does weaken the hair shaft and you need to then use a deep conditioner. Hopefully Lisa can give you some more useful ways also. Robin |
| Theres going to be no quick fix to this i dont think. The cornstarch thing is just a mask and wont fix the problem. Cider vinigar in the water will help neutralise the enzymes in the siliva which can cause the staining. Theres products like angel delight (www.bichonhotel.com)an additive that you put in the food, alot of my clients use it with great results. Both of these work from the inside out and will stop it reoccuring but wont w&iten the alr3ady stained hair There is also eye envy, not tried this though ive heard its very much. Some snauzer show people use lemon juice as it has lightening effects, but as an aromathetapist i know lemon oil (made from the peel) is photosensative and can react in sunlight so i dont know how it would be in a sunny country. Theres always the good ol whitening shampoo, apply, leave on 5-10 mins, rinse and reapply just make sure you condition well as with most products they will affect the hair folicle. I know its a show dog so trimming isnt an option, but can you not lightly thin the area? Good luck i am sure theres an answer somewhere So glad shes better now x |
| A question for the show people. Does a dog lose points because of naturally occurring discolouration? |
Mady wrote: A question for the show people. Does a dog lose points because of naturally occurring discolouration? Well, not points, per se, but it's not attractive, so it detracts from the dog I guess is the best way to put it. It sounds like Joy's system was out of whack when she was sick and it affected her coat. I don't know any short cuts to getting rid of the staining either. If it is due to something like a pH imbalance, it can be countered as suggested with vinegar or, in the US, something like Tums, but it still takes time for the hair to grow out normally again, which is no fun. Kristine |
| Hi grete PM me. Dont use peroxide products especially as near her eyes and nose and mouth, it's just too harsh. It can be fixed with gentle products after a few washes.  |
| Lisa xx can you please share your cure xx |
lisaoes wrote: Hi grete PM me. Dont use peroxide products especially as near her eyes and nose and mouth, it's just too harsh. It can be fixed with gentle products after a few washes. No, I don't dare to use peroxide near the eyes or mouth! Thanks for all the answers so far!!!I guess it'll take some time, if I don't find a champoo or rinsing product that wash it away. What do you use Lisa  Ok, I'll pm you  I can make her bear a little shorter and thin it a little - yes.I don't want to show her before she looks healthy again. She has an excellent cobby body and outfit; she shall be healthy and she must look healthy too when I show her to compeed on high level. We lost the show in Sweden too, she has been sneezing for a long time, she could be infectious to other dogs - we stayed at home. However Joy is young, so we don't need to hurry too much . Vinigar in the water......and lemon juice....and corn starch as a mask; You made me buzy now.....  I'll try these things and wash her a lot and keep her bear as dry as possible ................so we'll see. Best thing is that she is healthy again.  |
| I was browsing ebay last night and came across a cowboy magic product called yellow out. I have never tried it, maybe someone on here has? Might be worth a try if its anything like the other cowboy magic products.. Think may get some later! Ive also read, may of been on the discription using hslf water half vinigar on the stains |
SlaveToTheBrush wrote: I was browsing ebay last night and came across a cowboy magic product called yellow out. I have never tried it, maybe someone on here has? Might be worth a try if its anything like the other cowboy magic products.. Think may get some later! Ive also read, may of been on the discription using hslf water half vinigar on the stains  Tell us - if it works!  Joy today, not much like a beauty......she has stopped sneezing though and can play with other dogs again. |
| I can get Ru's beard looking like that for 2 minutes on a GOOD day. I think my biggest problem with him is he drools constantly! I can't keep his beard dry at all. Hope the remedy works! |
| I can get Ru's beard looking like that for 2 minutes on a GOOD day. I think my biggest problem with him is he drools constantly! I can't keep his beard dry at all. Hope the remedy works! have you tried using a road refresher water bowl? You can get them in most pet shops. They just allow the dog a small puddle of wwater so the beard stays dry, doesnt help the drewling but every little helps. Plus with a little cider vinigar in the water Shampoo should come today i am sure it wont be long till a dog comes in all stained, will let you know! |
SlaveToTheBrush wrote: Theres going to be no quick fix to this i dont think. The cornstarch thing is just a mask and wont fix the problem. Cider vinigar in the water will help neutralise the enzymes in the siliva which can cause the staining. Theres products like angel delight (http://www.bichonhotel.com)an additive that you put in the food, alot of my clients use it with great results. Both of these work from the inside out and will stop it reoccuring but wont w&iten the alr3ady stained hair There is also eye envy, not tried this though ive heard its very much. Some snauzer show people use lemon juice as it has lightening effects, but as an aromathetapist i know lemon oil (made from the peel) is photosensative and can react in sunlight so i dont know how it would be in a sunny country. Theres always the good ol whitening shampoo, apply, leave on 5-10 mins, rinse and reapply just make sure you condition well as with most products they will affect the hair folicle. I know its a show dog so trimming isnt an option, but can you not lightly thin the area? Good luck i am sure theres an answer somewhere So glad shes better now x I used to use Angels Delight but now Bichon Hotel sell the NaturVet tear stain remover. Works as well as Angels delight but it is half the cost. Cider Vinegar seems to help some dogs by adjusting the Ph value of the tears, making them slightly more acidic- The bacteria on the fur cannot metabolise the iron in the tears (and the enzyme you refer to is not created, and thus no red yeast). I would recommend giving cider vinegar a go but not TUMS. TUMS and other antacids might work as above, but by making the tears more alkaline. The risk is that the stomach might go into overtime- producing more stomach acid... Hydrogen peroxide- wouldn't use it - fullstop. Lemon juice is safer but might sting the eyes and as you say it is photosensitive BH paste by Bichon Hotel- I have used with success. Uses Boric acid to kill the bacteria- sounds scary but it is found in many commercial human eye dops. The natural bleaching effect is obtained using vinegar. The paste wont dry the skin or cause harm if eaten/licked but it does take quite a while to dry. Never-the-less I'd give it a thumbs up. I have seen a growing number of people talking about food allergies (particularly grans). I see that Bichon hotel now sell a bundle of Enzymes and Probiotics with their tear stain supplement. I haven't tried the two together but I guess it makes sense. Dogs don't have sufficient enzymes to break down grains, probiotics can give a helping hand to positive bacteria and the tear stain remover does what it is supposed to. http://bichonhotel.co.uk/shop/index.php ... cts_id=230 I haven't used anything corn starch based but have been told that it can dry the hair too much. There are many other things that might well work for one dog and not another, I guess one just needs to give each "cure" a decent try. |
| You will never get it very white because of 1. Food 2. Siliva (if they are a bit drippy) We don;t have issues with the eyes but not too bad on the face here is a pic of her  we use http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Groom-Pro-Bri ... 2c5f7c6965 also fairy liquid. |
SlaveToTheBrush wrote: I was browsing ebay last night and came across a cowboy magic product called yellow out. I have never tried it, maybe someone on here has? Might be worth a try if its anything like the other cowboy magic products.. Think may get some later! Ive also read, may of been on the discription using hslf water half vinigar on the stains I've been using Cowboy Magic as it was recommended by a friend - both the yellow out and the shampoo - seems to be working wonders. Especially on Lincoln's coat as we are going from Junior/Yealing coat to teenager :clappurple: |
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