Macy - Exc std - NQ

So Macy won't feel left out....if her sister can NQ publicly, so can she! Also excellent standard.

http://youtu.be/cLJdhfWbi2U

She had a couple of blonde moments, but she's still very green and I don't get worked up about it. Besides, someone accused her handler of not being a natural brunette yesterday. so fair's fair. <g>

Don't mind the funky hair cut. It was our first time out in public with it. I'm sure Sunny will see it, be horrified, and demand an immediate fix ;-)

Kristine
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What funky haircut? I thought she looked very cute! :hearts:
I heard you say she knocked a bar? Or was it passing the teeter?

I thought it looked like a clean run! The judges are BLIND! Just her cuteness should be a Q.
I thought it a lovely haircut........and those weave poles are tough! OK, we lost our concentration twice, but at least she stays with you on the course...most of the time. Woe be the one who tried to run ahead and make up their own course!
Simon's Mom wrote:
I heard you say she knocked a bar? Or was it passing the teeter?

I thought it looked like a clean run! The judges are BLIND! Just her cuteness should be a Q.


So, when are you getting your judges license? I want to run under YOU!!! ;-)

She knocked a bar in jumpers on Saturday. I don't have video of that as far as I know. She NQ (twice) - once when she missed the weave entry, which I chose not to fix in her case, and once when she ran past the dogwalk for reasons known only to her, it being such a TINY and easy to miss obstacle <vbg>

Sybil also NQd on two counts - once when she missed the weave entry (hm, sense a theme here? ) and once when I mistimed a front cross and sent her around a jump. I didn't fix that because it was blatantly MY FAULT, there was nothing to be gained from fixing it (you can't qualify with any faults in excellent) and, besides, she did exactly what I asked her to do and I need her to trust that I will recognize when I screw up and take responsibility for my own mistakes, and not blame them on her. She KNOWS what she saw, she followed my body languge to the letter - she normally does 95% of the time, so she would KNOW who was wrong and not trust me the next time if I made her feel like I was blaming her.

In addition to the confidence building, it's all about building trust - you need to trust that your dog will do what you taught them, and they need to trust that you will be honest with them. It's the beauty of the sport, really - the pure partnership aspect of it.

Kristine
OK, and, Marilyn and Susan, both, just so you know I will be printing this thread out to show Sunny when i see her on Friday, as she rolls her eyes and makes other dramatic gestures to signify the depth of my scissoring incompetence :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kristine
Great job Macy! :cheer:
Nice run. She looked great and so did you.

Question: I rewatched the end of the dog walk four times and I still don't know what I am seeing or hearing. Is that a blind cross? Are you giving her a command or am I hearing all that other crap outside the ring? Is she just relying on her release. Lovely 2o2o BTW. I am totally jealous. :mrgreen:

I thought she might have missed her weave entry but I have so much trouble telling when I am watching a lot of dogs run. I think it is part of my hand eye coordination problem. :oops: I am curious, why did you choose not to fix the weaves? I don't always either and I would like to know your reasoning to help me when I make choices.

It looked to me like the entry to the dog walk may have been your fault since she is still so green - both your path and your arm were driving her a little outside. Do your agree? I am asking for education purposes again to help me see things better. Of course, my handling is far worse on something like that but I have the luxury (and curse) of a dog who is choosing his own obstacles and generally not listening to me even if I wasn't always late with my commands. He would go up that damn dog walk even if a bitch in heat was standing next to it with her butt at his nose and I was headed in another direction.

Last learning question: no position on the table? Are you not planning on showing her in anything but AKC? I still can't decide whether to make this an issue with Mr. "What the Hell is a Table Doing on the Course?" because we lose so much time with us fighting over the sit during trials. But what if I decide to do another venue at some time? There would be little retraining him on this. So I love to hear other's opinions with their own dogs.

Again great run! :bow:

And.....Oh yeah - nice legs!......I didn't know you had any as you are normally in baggy sweats when running. :wink: :sidestep:
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't usually wear shorts because thanks to certain hairballs I generally look like a domestic abuse victim. Which, come to think of it, technically...? :lmt: :wink:

Yes, you are correct - I most likely pushed her past the entrance of the dogwalk and I think she was actually looking at the tunnel wrapped underneath the other end. She's developing a wee bit of a tunnel fetish lately.

Some times I fix weaves. It's a gut instinct call. As you can probably tell it was a LOUD venue, especially near the standard ring, and she wasn't as relaxed at the start as I would have liked. She missed the entry but then remembered the weaves were probably there for a reason, entered, and got into a fairly nice rhythm for her - she often seems to just about think her way through each pole. So I didn't want to pull her out of them while she was doing them correctly. In stark contrast to what I did with Sybil, who essentially did the same thing, but has many more miles on her and should have not been gawking when I told her to weave :wink: It was not a hard entry. Competely situational, no hard rules, sorry.

Letting them both stand on the table - two things were going on: I didn't cue Sybil to down. She's technically supposed to down automatically, but I inadvertently taught it with a body cue - if I put my hands behind my back, she will still down (as I figured out when I ran them both in USDAA last month) I let her stand because I am working on other issues with her - contacts and weaves. I know I can get the down back. PLUS, I don't necessarily want them going from a down when the next obstacle is a spread. In this case there was plenty of room, but that's not always the case, and sometimes when they exit from a down they do so low and rather uncollected and sloppy and I wanted them on their toes for the jump.

WIth Macy, who is still exhibiting some signs of stress, I'm simply not going to push the issue till she's more confident. Could it come back to bite me? Maybe. Time will tell. She's not a pushy dog, though. She lives to please. As long as she doesn't have other things on her mind.

Yes, that was a blind cross off the dogwalk, and, no, that was not a 2on2off. They were both taught the one rear toe on method and instructor wants me to give an early release (and, yes, there was a release in both cases) so it essentially becomes a running contact of sorts so they're not slamming their fronts into the ground. It's not perfect because it's not 100% black and white like a stop is, though it works for Mace who has never missed a contact in her life. Sybil, on the other hand, has missed several in the last few months and missed the dogwalk - second to last obstacle - in her standard run yesterday. She mainly does it when her brain goes into overload, so what I'm doing is working more on keeping her focused and unstressed, because then the contacts are there.

I could also have done a front cross at the dogwalk but Macy knows the blind cross cues really well, better than her sister, really, so it just seemed more natural to blind. I chose a rear cross for Sybil because she has more speed on the dog walk and though she wasn't really racing that time, there are times when she flies and she can and will beat me if I race her and so I risk having her fly off that way. She read the cue to the left side of the tunnel better than her sister did, mind you. I will be rewatching both dogs many, many times till I figure out why.

I don't know if you noticed but I waited till Macy came out of that last tunnel and then did a rear cross to the jump. TOTALLY WRONG for her. I'd watched so many others chicken out that I lost my nerve to do the blind cross I should have done. The rear cross completely took the momentum out of her. With Sybil, whom I didn't have to babysit so far into that last tunnel, I didn't go so deep so took a chance that I'd make the blind, and it worked fine EXCEPT I decelerated too late/ran too far up on that jump, and so pushed her too far out over the jump after the last tunnel, making her cover several yards more than she needed to and forcing her to have to straighten for the last two jumps. Wasted time.

I've been working on getting my timing right on the decels, but all weekend it was pretty clear I ain't there yet ;-) That's kind of why I was hoping my friend had taped Sybil's Sat JWW run - she saved my butt after a poorly timed deceleration. Some of these things are so touchy, you're literally talking your timing being off by maybe just a tenth of a second, but it can make a big difference in the dog. Always something to work on.

Great questions!

Kristine
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Great job!
Cindy
Thanks for asking those questions Judi as I was wondering too.

My interpretation from my arm chair :D was that she was intent on the tunnel but I'm biased because Tiggy LOVES the tunnel and when she is bored or stressed or thinks I'm being a pain in the petunia will just take off and run any tunnel in the vicinity back and forward a few times to blow of a bit of steam. She always comes back looking totally pleased with herself with the "what, what'd I do look on her face?"

I too noted that Kristine has legs 8O :wink: I figured it was the really hot weather. Shame I didn't get a photo of the last really good effort Tiggy made of my legs. Luckily it's winter so I had no cause for anyone to see them and wonder.
First, I adore Macy's cut, she looks incredibly cool and jaunty. Again, not a clue what I saw, but for me, she looked great on the course. :clappurple: What a beauty :kiss: !
I love her short cut :D
Please tell me people were still not confused on who was who!?

The dog walk missed entry looked to me like you pushed her out to the left a tad to much. Your arc was wide, then you pullled back in (right), but too late, and she just sort of drifted off.... And I have done the exact same thing w/ Chewie, so it looked VERY familiar :?

I had to laugh at your pull left after the dog walk into the tunnel...good thing she finally moved over, as you were out of room!! good save on not getting the wrong tunnel entrance!

And the tunnel out from under the dogwalk, yep, the blind cross would have worked.....glad to see others w/ WAY more experience having that awkward bobble when you switched to the rear cross...misery loves company!!~ :mrgreen:

But she looked really nice, and not stressed, so whatever you did was good and good for her :aww:
No, most still can't tell the difference :lol: :lol: :lol:

I knew even as I was running it that a rear was not the ideal choice for her. I think she's done two before in her entire life 8) so I was just happy to avert the dreaded spin so common when you're starting out. Though it certainly served to produce a really nice tight turn, it was a bit of overload in the information department.

In contrast, a rear cross would have worked nicely for Sybil and produced a much tighter turn, but I already knew that - I wanted to see how far I could push a blind because if the timing was right, and mine was not, you can get the best of both worlds: a nice tight turn both with less deceleration on the dog's part on the take-off side, and more acceleration on the landing side.

My dogs like blind crosses - it gets them jazzed. I think it appeals to their basic propensity to play chicken :twitch: :lol:

In any event, in both cases the dogs had already NQd early on so I wanted to use the runs to practice things I wouldn't normally do - might as well get your money's worth. :wink:

Kristine
Must be a family thing - Chewie LOVES blinds too :D

I've started slipping them in more and more. Classmates think I'm nuts, but they do agree it really works for us - they are somewhat amazed, as they wouldn't do it w/ their dogs. And the instructors agree that it indeed is working, that we do it more smoothly than other options (they have been making us do it several ways to verify in situations in practice).

And yep, get the bang for the buck! :high5:
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