Stomach Stapling for our pup? Help!

Hi all,

Our vet has thrown out a few times that we should research/consider doing the stomach stapling procedure for our pup when he gets neutered as a precaution to prevent his stomach from twisting in the future.

Does anyone have experience with this? Have done it for your dogs? Are Sheepies known to have this issue or is it a large breed thing?

He's such a healthy active puppy that I feel very nervous to do something so internal as a precaution, but at the same time I'd never forgive myself if he had a complication or worse that I could have prevented.

Any thoughts/advice/experience would be appreciated!

Thank u!!!!
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It's really not that common w/ OES (gastric torsion).......now if you had a great dane pup, it would be a more normal recommendation.
I have never heard of it being recommended for an OES.
Ditto what Dawn said. Though OES as a (relative) large breed are prone to bloat, it's nowhere near as prevalent as in Danes. I know one Malamute breeder who regularly had her dogs and bitches stomachs tacked. I don't think I even know Dane people who do this, though maybe they do and don't talk about it/

Unless there was a history of bloat (sometimes a dog will bloat, and if they have to open them up they will tack the stomach then - or if the breeder indicated bloat is a big concern in puppy's immediate family, for instance) I wouldn't have it done to my dogs.

What age is your vet suggesting neutering, by the way?

Kristine
When Oscar was 9 months old, before we knew he had Inflammatory Bowel Disease, my vet and I discussed the preventive stapling procedure for him. The only reason we were discussing it is because Oscar had such severe digestive issues - constant diarrhea, vomit burping, extreme gas, and intestinal gurgling, that we were concerned that his hyper motility might cause or contribute to torsion. (He came to us at 10 weeks old with these issues, and we ran test after test, trying to get to the bottom of it.)

After our discussion, we decided that it was not in Oscar's best interest, and panned the idea. Turns out, my vet wasn't that keen on the idea either, but felt she had to throw everything out there based upon the severity of what we were dealing with at the time.

Personally, I would not pursue this as a preventive measure, unless there were some extreme and unusual circumstances.

Congrats on your pup!

Laurie and Oscar
Im curious, what are the risks and down sides of this procedure? I have such a terror of GT, having lost a dog to it once. In fact as I recall, the stapling was done as part of the unsuccessful surgery to save Spencer. The idea of a preventative surgery has some appeal :? .
ravenmoonart wrote:
Im curious, what are the risks and down sides of this procedure? I have such a terror of GT, having lost a dog to it once, that the idea of a preventative surgery has some appeal :? .


The obvious risk is the surgery itself. The benefit is that though it won't prevent the dog from bloating, it should prevent the stomach from twisting, which is generally what kills them. I do know one malamute bitch whose stomach was tacked and who died anyway, but you do increase your odds of a better outcome in the event that a dog bloats.

And I know what you mean. I drove to the emergency room with a friend when her 12 year old OES bloated, just trying to comfort him as she broke every speed limit, and the pain that dog was in...I was in tears just from not being able to do anything for him.

I don't think there's a person alive who gone through this who doesn't spend the rest of their lives in fear of ever seeing it again.

Kristine
I dont think I would be going to that extreme on a pup, I also wonder what the long term internal effects are having it done while there still growing. Here is some info for you to have and file on the prevention and just general info on bloat. Things like after exercise not letting them drink gallons of water or feeding them straight away till they cool down, lots of info for prevention and a handy link to have. I have also never heard of an OES having this procedure done.

http://www.globalspan.net/bloat.htm

How old is he when you are having him neutered? Just wondering because being a large breed it is more beneficial there done older if at all with a male after there growth plates have closed. Long term health benefits in large and giant breeds with de-sexing is having done not at 6 months old. Here is some info on that for you to read so you can make an informative decision as to when you think is the best time to neuter and not by a vet pushing at a young age to do it, which like most vets push for it way too early for large and giant breeds. Small breeds OK as they usually are fully mature by 12 months, large and giant breeds anywhere from 18 months and older to reach that level of full maturity, so if you can hold off till at least over 12 months old better for him in the long term, unless he has an undescended testie or testicles.

Info for you to peruse to make an informative choice as to when :wink:

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTerm ... InDogs.pdf
Thanks Lisa for the spay/neuter read. Vets do push this surgery and people do comply.
Robin
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