Brush Advice Needed
I have 2 OES boys who you can imagine require a lot of brushing! None of the brushes I have tried so far seem to be up to the task.  I was wondering if anyone could possibly give advice to the best brushes to get? I've read about lots of different ones but don't now which to go for. At the moment we use a comb to brush their hair but our oldest, Sully, who's just turned 2, his hair never seems to get any longer so we're worried that the comb is breaking the hair.  I'm from the UK so any advice for UK sites would be great!!Thanks Natalie, Sully & Odie  |
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| A good uk site is www.petcetra.co.uk They do all the good pin and slicker brushes. Depending on how long the coat is and if your showing them too. If your showing you dogs then a pin brush so you keep in t&e under coat. If there pets then a good slicker brush is a les pooches you can get them from redcape grooming, not sure uf the website. Just think when buying your brush, its a bit like an investment for the years of grooming ahead so if. You buy cheep ones you will have to keep teplacing then but a good one will last years You have another 2-3 years of coat transitions to get through before you get to the adult coat.. so brace yourself! Good luck A few british grooming sites Www.technogroom.co.uk Www.dezynerdog.co.uk Www.christiesdirect. Www.groomersonline Www.thehub Www.petcetera.co.uk Hope these help x |
Thanks for those websites! I don't mind how much the brushes cost as long as they are going to do the job. I'm just not sure about which types of brushes are best. We want to keep their full coat on both of them if possible, even though we don't show them. Odie's hair is going through the nightmare puppy to junior stage at the moment. It doesn't matter how much I brush it he still looks like he's been dragged through a hedge backwards!  He also seems to have LOADS more hair than Sully ever did! |
Natalie wrote: Hi, I have 2 OES boys who you can imagine require a lot of brushing! None of the brushes I have tried so far seem to be up to the task. I was wondering if anyone could possibly give advice to the best brushes to get? I've read about lots of different ones but don't now which to go for. At the moment we use a comb to brush their hair but our oldest, Sully, who's just turned 2, his hair never seems to get any longer so we're worried that the comb is breaking the hair. I'm from the UK so any advice for UK sites would be great!!Thanks Natalie, Sully & Odie Natalie, Here is a review of Madan pin brushes I posted a few months ago. I now wholly recommend them above all others unless you can somehow find one of the rarer-than-hens-teeth Hindes brushes. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31246&hilit=madan+pin+brushes&start=0 Hope this helps Thanks and Cheers Carl |
| Thanks Carl. I've noticed that the Madan brushes come in a selection of colours, all suitable for different coats. Which would you advise? I've included the details from the Madan website below. BLUE & GREEN are very soft. They have the softest cushion, best for sensitive skin. Best for Yorkshire Terriers w/silky hair. BABY BLUE, ORANGE, & PINK are soft, great for silky coats, ideal for everyday use. These are slightly firmer than the very soft. Best for breeds like Maltese, Silky Terrier & Yorkhire Terrier w/silky hair. RED & PURPLE are medium soft, good for thicker hair & recommended for everyday grooming. Best for breeds like Biewer, Maltese & Yorkies w/cottony thicker hair, LH Chihuahua, Japanese Chin & Papillon. BLACK is standard soft for denser hair. Also great for long haired cats. Best for breeds like Havanese, Lhasa Apso, Shih Tzu, Pekingese, Pomeranian, Poodle & any other breeds w/long growing curly or double coat. If your Malt or Yorkie (or any other single coated breed) tolerates brushing, this brush is also great for brushing out tangles, along w/the small & oblong brush. BLACK w/RED cushion is firm, best for removing undercoat & heavier coarse hair. Best for breeds like Afghan Hound, Chow Chow, Old English Sheep Dog & Shetland Sheepdog. Thanks Natalie |
| Natalie, There are three madan brushes which I think are suitable for our Bobtail's coats. They are the red - medium soft, baby/medium blue - soft and dark/royal blue - very soft. Each has it's advantages and appropriate times for use. If you can only afford one then the red brush is the one to get. It is a nice compromise between having enough firmness to adequately brush out the coat but not so much as to either tear out excessive amounts of the undercoat or break too many of the guard coat hairs, especially if you have a Bobtail with the correct "hard" guard coat. If you manage to keep your Bobtail well groomed you could get away with the medium/baby blue soft brush as your primary brush but it will suffer heavy wear and tear if you use it to any significant extent when the dog is even lightly matted. The dark/royal blue is a nice finishing brush to give the hair the maximum "loft" and body possible. Never use this as a primary brush though as it's pins will simply "lean over" and release the hair being brushed as soon as any hint of a matt is encountered. Ideally a "complete tack box" selection of brushes would be 1 red, two medium/baby blue and 1 dark/royal blue brushes with replacements being ordered at the first signs of wear and tear or when service life approaches 150 hours. I'm getting service lives of about 200 hours on my Madans and that is as good as even my once coveted Hindes pin brushes and is heads and tails (oops did I say tails on a Bobtail forum  ) above all the rest I have tried.I very strongly recommend that you never use either of the firm brushes (black or black with red pad) or any brush that has "balled tips" on the pins. These will absolutely destroy a Bobtail's coat by completely stripping out the undercoat and breaking a lot of the guard hair. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
| What would you advise to get rid of any knots in the hair? I fear that Sully may have lost some of his undercoat through using the wrong brush (we were advised it was the right on!). This may be a ridiculous question, but will this grow back in fully to give a lovely full coat? Thanks again Natalie |
| I actually have the answer to the mats. It took me 3 monthes to figure it out. But a lady that shows these animals recommended oster professional grooming rake.http://www.amazon.com/Oster-Professiona ... B00061MWJ0 I was skeptical at first but nothing takes the mats out faster or with less tears (the dogs and mine). I think the secret to brushing the mats out is to brush it the same way you do long hair. You have to start at the end and work your way to the roots. I actually dont use a brush on this dog anymore this rake does it all for me. Now the only side effect to brushing the dog out now is the fact you need a trash can to dump all the hair into. I pull 2 grocery sacks worth of hair off him every week. I also find that I have too keep with it and do it everyweek. Some other tip I learned I always brush mats out before the bath otherwise there hair seems to tighen into knots. Good Luck with your OES. I know I have feel in love with mine. |
| Hello I find the Chris Christensen extra long pin brush the best http://www.petcetera.co.uk/grooming/bru ... -27mm.html It goes through the coat like a hot knife through butter. The extra long pins move easily and have smooth rounded tips with no heads so they are kind to the coat and skin. If you are dealing with mats you will need a comb and possibly a matt breaker, but if you brush regularly, this brush is awesome in my opinion I wouldn't use anything else. I've been using the same one 4 hours a week for the last 3.5 years and it has ONE bent pin, a little colour loss, but otherwise it's still as good as new. |
| Hello, love this site, it is so helpful sense we have our first OES.....all the info is great, I found the Madan Pin brushes at toplinepet.com, $20.00 plus $3.00 shipping....can't wait to get it and try it out on Oreo.... |
| Just received our Madan brush, it is amazing.....works fantastic, thanks for all the info |
Hint of Mischief wrote: Hello I find the Chris Christensen extra long pin brush the best http://www.petcetera.co.uk/grooming/bru ... -27mm.html It goes through the coat like a hot knife through butter. The extra long pins move easily and have smooth rounded tips with no heads so they are kind to the coat and skin. If you are dealing with mats you will need a comb and possibly a matt breaker, but if you brush regularly, this brush is awesome in my opinion I wouldn't use anything else. I've been using the same one 4 hours a week for the last 3.5 years and it has ONE bent pin, a little colour loss, but otherwise it's still as good as new.Someone in another thread recommended this brush too. I've used it from the beginning with Charm, and couldn't imagine anything else. Gentle on the hand too. I use a comb for her matts, same brand, working from end to skin. Hope you find the right one, Natalie. I think it is just a personal preference and what you get used to using. Good Luck! |
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