My OES puppy is a terrible biter
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| I would do the puppy rolling - my vet recomended it. I'm sure someone else can explain it to you better than I can (and please wait until they do) but you roll them over gently and hold them down until they stop squirming.
Instead of spanking or yiping (which only makes her bite more) I growl at my dog and it startles her and makes her stop. Even if he isn't food aggressive - hand feeding can also help your dog bond with you - I would have all the memebers of your family feed him by hand. Make sure you make him do a trick for everything he gets after he gets used to being hand fed. Sit = hand of food. Lay down = favorite toy or whatever you like to do. Momo also likes to try and bite people while they are sleeping or laying down. So, if someone is tired, keep her out of their room or if everyone is taking a nap at once - crate her. I have to crate Momo or she would probably take bites out of me while I slept too. Another thing to do would be to lay down and wait for him to come near you and if he looks like he is going to bite - then growl at him. Be firm and make sure everyone does what they are supposed to do - even the kids. Also - you can try this - I'm not sure how many people would agree with me but if you do the same thing to him that he is doing to you - he might get it. My pup kept trying to knock me down a hill - so I just pushed her over (not down the hill!) when she reared up to knock me over. She tested me a bit to make sure if I would do it again - and I did! She hasn't done it again - but I am still waiting for her to try again since she is still a pup. She would also bite Brad's ears - so Brad bit her ear (not very hard or even enough to make it hurt) she got the message and isn't biting his ears anymore. Also - remember to reward him for all of his good behavior with loads of attention and treats. It motivates them more than you know. |
| At first we used the whine like a puppy and that helped to curb her somewhat, now that she is a little older (almost 4mo) when sasha nips I put my thumb under her tounge and my pointer and middle finger under her chin and hold and firmly say no bite.It's not painfull but it sure gets her attention. If she jumps and tries to nip I give her the DOWN command hoping that if she stops jumping up the nipping will stop.So far it's been working,we have a little ways to go yet but I see an improvement. What are you currently trying? |
| In reference to Integra Hellsing's method of puppy rolling, my husband and I used it to curb aggression behaviour towards us. What you do is when the pup is doing something you don't like (ie biting) roll him onto his back and hold him there till he quits squirming and just kind of lies there. This is good in many ways, it shows dogs that we are the alphas, and since they are competing to find there place in the "pack" when they are no longer struggling, they are submissive to you.
The other thing we do now, is before giving anything to our pup, we have him sit and give paw. I do this before giving a treat, coming in the house, taking the leash off him, pulling him out of his area, etc. I hope this helps some. Brandy |
| Cindy, I'm right there with you. I've never had a dog that was as mouthy and obnoxious as Spike with the biting and jumping at the same age (mine's 17 weeks now but he's been doing this for a while) - it's out of control and yes, I have tried the puppy rolling/growling/etc. but when you have a dog literally attached to your arm with needle-sharp teeth you'll see that flipping the little bastard onto his back isn't exactly something that is going to work all too well. Trust me. Growling at him doesn't help whatsoever in this situation (he's too old to give a damn if I growl at him, he's used to it and thinks it's a game) and neither does shoving a toy in his face. I'm absolutely praying that once he's finished teething that this situation improves. It makes it really hard to want to play with him when he's being this way. I'm lucky that he's fabulous on walks - so walk we do, tons and tons of walks! But he still wants to play when we're at home and I have a hard time dealing with his mouth daily.
Cindy you're not alone and if you receive any advice that actually works (no offense to the posters trying to be helpful), please let me know. |
| I have to echo RollerXgirl, Max is also 17 weeks now and still behaves like a little maniac a couple times a day!! At these times nothing really works, I tried growling at him today, and it worked once! These dogs are too smart for their own good. When I used the growl technique again, he was over it and it made him more playful/mouthy/jumpy!!! I also enjoy walking Max now, he loves going on walks and I'm surprised how well he is doing on his walks, so we go on 3 a day. As soon as my backyard is clean again (I'm having patio put in, and there is lots of tools/equipment strewn about) I'll let him loose to fetch and run! |
| Clyde stopped nipping a lot after the teething was over. Letting him play with other dogs also helped a lot because they taught him how hard it was acceptable to bite. Even our trainer said that after she learned how much of the work that a second dog does in training, she'll never have one again! |
| Max and Spike are a little older than Bailey so I see what I have to look forward to! Bailey is getting nippier - he's put holes in 2 tshirts in the past 2 days. I've tried the "rolling" thing a few times and it's working for me now, but I think it's because he's so surprised by it. He lays there with a very confused look on his face - "Hey! How did I get here?". But it does distract him from the nipping. In a few more weeks he'll be too big for me to roll. |
| Watch your pant legs too. James and I both lost a pair! |
| So hilarious, I am laughing because the pair of pants I wore when we first got Max turned into shorts!! I now alternate between 2 pairs of pants and basically that's all I wear when I'm with him, I'm sure the people who see us on our walks think I'm a fashion disaster!!
Sharon  |
personss wrote: So hilarious, I am laughing because the pair of pants I wore when we first got Max turned into shorts!! I now alternate between 2 pairs of pants and basically that's all I wear when I'm with him, I'm sure the people who see us on our walks think I'm a fashion disaster!!
Sharon Goodness! Momo is the exact opposite! She is ok with people wearing pants... but when she sees shorts she goes nuts! She grabs the hem and just tuuuuuuggggs away. I'm worried she is going to rip Brad's shorts off someday... |
| Clyde is still tempted by skirts-- I can tell he's dying to take a bite! |
this has become too funny...maybe momo thinks everyone should wear pants not shorts, so he is trying to make them longer...lol. As for skirts, I really don't know what to say. Good luck on the biting, I am glad I nipped that in the beginning or I am being fooled by my pup  |
BP wrote: this has become too funny...maybe momo thinks everyone should wear pants not shorts, so he is trying to make them longer...lol. As for skirts, I really don't know what to say. Good luck on the biting, I am glad I nipped that in the beginning or I am being fooled by my pup
Oh you've been fooled... He's just plotting his attack...  |
| O.K.,I have to ask this,My Cody had bit my oldest son for finger popping him on the snout.Anyways, what I am trying to ask, Does anyone think that this Rolling thing will help me with Codies aggression? I will try anything. I love my boy with all my heart ..But, this biting and I mean REally biting,has me scared...I have a grandbaby coming in 5.5 weeks or sooner...[/b] |
| I think sometimes there is a fine line in trying to decide whether biting is agression or is simply a puppy playing with his only means of communicating - his mouth. Barney did a lot of "mouthing" when he was teething. Frequently while playing he would catch me with his needles and draw blood. Sometimes I could minimize it with "no teeth" command. Sometimes, especially if I had to handle him and knew he didn't want to do something, like being taken by his collar and put in his cage, I'd put on leather gloves.
I've found the best deterrent was to completely eliminate any tug o' war games. If we're playing catch, he has to drop the ball. I will not take it out of his mouth. He now has all his teeth, and has plenty of bones and rawhide to chew on. However I still will not roughhouse with him and will keep my hands away from his open mouth if he is excited. My best advice is to try to anticipate his mouthing behavior and control the situation by avoiding the circumstances if possible. I think most of this behavior is a puppy thing. It's not the same thing as an angry dog attacking someone. True agression requires more professional handling. |
4theloveofCody wrote: O.K.,I have to ask this,My Cody had bit my oldest son for finger popping him on the snout.Anyways, what I am trying to ask, Does anyone think that this Rolling thing will help me with Codies aggression? I will try anything. I love my boy with all my heart ..But, this biting and I mean REally biting,has me scared...I have a grandbaby coming in 5.5 weeks or sooner...[/b]
Hiya:) Did you see my reply to you in the other group? I am aka Lakesong  |
| I was also afraid of my new OES. He started to bite me and also putting holes in my shirts. My arms look like they went through the war! My old OES did not do this I feel at times that he does not like me. My trainer told me yo give him something else to bite on, a soft toy. a bone and lots of new toys to play with. I have also started to look him directly in the eyes when i say off! I am going to try to roll him over also! Ihope this ends with his getting his new teeth! Bodie's mom. |
| Don't despair!! Our OES was HORRIBLE about biting and nipping. I didn't own even one pair of socks without puppy teeth holes in them. My arms and hands were covered with scabs and fresh wounds! We tried all of the usual things with no real results. I was hoping it was teething but even after the adult teeth came in it was still bad - we just weren't bleeding as much since the adult teeth aren't as sharp!
The one strategy she finally seemed to react to (that I didn't see mentioned here) was "puppy time-out". We always kept her on a short lead when we were home with her so we could control her (especially since she thinks our cats are great "sheep" to chase!). By having the lead on her as soon as she would bite, we would say "no bite - time out" (in a really low, growly voice), take her lead and drag her to the refrigerator and wrap a portable/moveable fence around her and along the sides of the fridge to trap her in the fence in front of the fridge. We would stick a toy in her mouth and proceed to ignore her until she was lying calmly in the fenced off area. (Of course, there is no way to get food or snacks by using the fridge as part of the fence - but we were ready to try anything!) I'd like to think she loves people and attention SO much that it finally affected her - - or maybe she just outgrew it - - I'm pretty sure that she was almost a year old (she's almost 2 now) before she finally stopped...although even now we don't roughhouse with her or play tug of war. I think those games are just too much "excitement" for her. You can almost see her puppy brain start taking over when she gets overexcited.
Hang in there - it will be worth it when it's over - AND you too will someday own socks without holes in them! |
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