Grooming Question

I bathed my 4 month old OES last week and the directions on the creme rinse said that it could be left on the coat. I put the cream on him and did a light rinse. Living some on the coat. He has been scratching like crazy!! So here is my question... Do I shampoo him again, leaving out the creme rinse (I've used it in the past and rinsed him without a problem) or do I just put him in the bath and rinse him without shampooing again? Thoughts? Need to do it today.
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Good question!
I've never experienced this problem but I would be inclined to use a little shampoo and lots of fresh water rinsing to get rid of the creme rinse as it sounds like that might be the problem.
I would use minimum shampoo though as his skin is probably a bit sensitive now. In fact I would dilute the shampoo with some water and then apply it to the coat.
Hopefully someone who has experienced similiar problems can advise you.
Good luck I hope you get the scratching sorted. :crossed:
Thanks, I woke this morning to tuffs of fur all over the bedroom from his scratching all night. I let the two out to play in the back yard and Bentley got into mud and then scratched all over so needless to say the little bugger will be getting a bath one way or another. I am using a good moisturizing shampoo with vitamin E and Aloe.
I have never known of leaving a cream rinse on the coat (but then. again there is probaly hundreds if products i have never heard if!)
'When i bath a dig with a skin conndition, i use a specialised shampoo and leave it on for 10 minutes and rinse throughly
I do find that in that 10 minutes if i havent washed my hands, they start itching, and this is shampoo from the vets and i dont have sensative skin.

If u need to bathe your mucky pup i would just use water or some diluted puppy shampoo. But remember, most mud will brush out when its dry. And if you must bath your dog alot use a mild shampoo and conditioner do you dont dry the skin out
One thing that I have learned with Mady is that when I THINK I have her rinsed off, I need to rinse even more. It takes a long time to properly rinse a sheepie! Good luck with your next bath. :)
I agree, shampoo and creme rinses can be very irritating to dogs' skin, and especially puppies. If it can be brushed out when dry, first choice. Second choice is rinse only. Third choice is very diluted shampoo, ditto creme rinse and LOTS OF WATER.

Skunk attack.......ignore all of the above. :wink:
Lizzy was skunked one summer morning when my daughter got up and let her out. She left the door open and went to the family room to watch TV. I was in bed sleeping when my beloved Lizzy came inside and jumped in bed with me and skunked me, and my $800.00 down comforter!!!!! UGG!!!!

I did bathe Bentley with a diluted shampoo. I rinsed and rinsed and rinsed and when I thought I was done, I rinsed again. I blew him dry and he is still itching a little but not as bad...... I think, will keep you posted!!!
I used a conditioner only once on Bella. I found although it made her coat soft it actually matted a lot more. I have grown to love the coarseness of her coat since it mats less than the soft white hair around her face and neck area. I thought others had recommended NOT using a conditioner for that reason.
Rinse, Rinse & Rince again. :)
Just remember the term squeeky clean
When you think you have finished while still in the bath, squeeze your dogs hair all over to wring the water out, if any part doesnt squeek then rinse sime more
These things take time
Just make sure what ever your using on your 4 month old is suitable "For Puppies".

Other shampoos can be a bit harsh on an immature puppy.

If the itching is continuing, get some Oatmeal based rinse or shampoo and re-wash him, make sure also it is marked for puppies!!!

There delicate at that age and you do have to be carefull till they mature more. :wink:

Oatmeal based soothes if what you previously used has caused him scratch & will settle that down :D
The first time I bathed my pup, I didn't realize that the instructions said to dilute the shampoo and conditioner both 16:1. If you were using a shampoo like that and didn't dilute, that might explain the need to scratch. Just a thought...
Nanc wrote:
The first time I bathed my pup, I didn't realize that the instructions said to dilute the shampoo and conditioner both 16:1. If you were using a shampoo like that and didn't dilute, that might explain the need to scratch. Just a thought...



We bought some shampoo and conditioner online that Amber recommended. We didn't realize it is meant to be diluted either. So the gallon jugs we bought turned out to be 16 gallons worth of shampoo and conditioner. We wont need to buy more shampoo/conditioner for a while... :wink:
Baba wrote:
Nanc wrote:
The first time I bathed my pup, I didn't realize that the instructions said to dilute the shampoo and conditioner both 16:1. If you were using a shampoo like that and didn't dilute, that might explain the need to scratch. Just a thought...



We bought some shampoo and conditioner online that Amber recommended. We didn't realize it is meant to be diluted either. So the gallon jugs we bought turned out to be 16 gallons worth of shampoo and conditioner. We wont need to buy more shampoo/conditioner for a while... :wink:


Don't tell them that we also bought what we thought was a toothbrush and ended up being 6 dozen toothbrushes...
Mady, your Mum and Dad are funny....I'm glad I'm not the only one who missed those instructions....I wish they had sold me the special bottle with the markings for diluting to the proper strength...that will be our next purchase. Sounds like you were well stocked in toothbrushes too.
Well Bentley's itching didn't stop after the second shampooing. I had started feeing him Wellness at the same time I had shampooed him. I'm wondering if the food was the culprit. I discontinued the Wellness and went back to Pro Plan (not as high quality) and his itching has stopped. Am I nuts to think it was the food??

Thoughts on what I should do? I want to feed him a high quality kibble but I really believe there was something he was allergic to in the wellness brand. Should I wait until he is older and try again??
It could be a preservative (artificial or natural) or one of the components of the food (chicken, beef, lamb etc.)

Why do you consider ProPlan NOT a high quality food? I have been feeding it to my show & performance dogs for several generations now & have had great results as far as digestibility, coat quality, energy level, growth patterns & overall health.
That's good to know. We have done some research on foods and found the producer of pro plan would not confirm nor deny that he used a specific type of preservative that has been proven to be harmful. (Im sorry I cannot remember which one it was, my husband was actually the one looking in to it). Bentley seems happy with the pro plan, so for now I am going to keep him on it. I'm glad to know your OES's are doing well on it. :D
Lisa&Brian wrote:
That's good to know. We have done some research on foods and found the producer of pro plan would not confirm nor deny that he used a specific type of preservative that has been proven to be harmful. (Im sorry I cannot remember which one it was, my husband was actually the one looking in to it). Bentley seems happy with the pro plan, so for now I am going to keep him on it. I'm glad to know your OES's are doing well on it. :D


Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to FDA if there is a preservative used in a food (human or dog) it must be in the ingredient statement and labeled as such. I know some companies walk the gray line with this one, as some "natural" ingredients are preservatives (rosemary extract for example). Can you find out what preservative your husband is concerned with?
I will be happy to. He is out of the country until Saturday. I will ask him when I speak to him next.
Hi Lisa and Brian. Thanks for getting back to my prvate e mail to you. I will keep you posted on my housing situation!

If he stopped itching after you chaged the food, I would stick the food he does well on. Wellness has changed their formula. My breeder, who is off the referral list and does extensive showing, always fed Pro Plan. My dogs however had issues and we changed their food. If your dog does well on a food, stay with it. Dog food is a very controversial thing. I feel if your dog does well on a food, why change?

But the shampoo might have been an issue too. Always rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse...
We have had Mady on ProPlan too, and she does really well on it. Good poops! It is all about the poop here... :roll:
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