stool problems

loose stools in 18 month old brothers....one day one is better the next day the other one has it...I switched them to chicken soup for dog lovers regualr adult thinking maybe the large breed food with wet food was too much....any suggestions?
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sounds like Tonks and Luna. When I switched them to grain free Acana, the stools solidified and have never been loose since!
Frankie was the same way.
I switched him to Mulligans stew, and a spoon of pumpkin. No Loose stools since.

Lisa and Frankie
Have you already ruled out any little "nasties"? Intestinal parasites (worms, giardia, etc.) will also cause loose stools. We have a poop eater :? , so that's one of the first things we check.
Zoe has consistently had loose stools since we got her at 4 months. She is now almost 2 years old. We decided today to switch to Taste of the Wild fish formula (grain free). She was eating Orijen. We wonder if the protein in the Orijen is too high for her. Hopefully there will be an improvement.
I would first rule out any parasites. Sometimes they are hard to diagnosis. The rule out any "foreign" substance....too much fat can cause loose poop too. Maybe fatty marrow bones? We had a BIG problem with loose stool for quite a while. I found bully sticks caused loose stool as did the marrow bones if I did not scoop out the inside fat before giving.

We feed Orijen Fresh Fish formula nd haven't had a loose stool problem. But if your dog doesn't react well to one food, try another slowly. The best of the best food is not the best if it isn't right for your particular dog.
Bailee eats (and loves) Taste of the Wild (bison) and has never had any issues what-so-ever. When we had him to our Vet for the very first time after we picked him up the Vet advised us to only feed him top quality food. (We started with Innova Puppy (large breed) and as he grew we switched to TOTW.) His advice was even though it will cost more for the food you will save $$$ over the long haul in Vet bills. It's true, Bailee has and still is in excellent health. You will notice that with the better foods there is actually less stool than with the "lesser" quality and (extra filler) foods. There body will utilize the food better and that will result in less "output" :rimshot:
yes- just what everyone posted above - grain free dog food is a must! We were using candiae -- until they developed allergies. Also I didn't realize Candiae has grain in them and switched to Solid Gold.. So far, so good.



There has been a number of complaints on Candiae and one pet store in the Bay Area has decided to stop selling them due to finding pieces of rubber in several bags of dog food. Does anyone know about any recalls? i couldnt find them online.
We ruled out "nasties" again. Fecal test was negative. The vet suggested we feed her Hills Prescription I/D but when we looked at the nutritional value, we decided against it.
Hoping the lower protein works. It's only been a few days so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
I would never trust a negative stool check... I would insist the vet first deworm with strongid as well as metronidazole for giardia and a sulfa drug for coccidia (even with negative results)before assuming food allergies.
Also in my experience with OES a HIGHER protein food is better to firm up stools, not lower protein.
To add bulk canned pumpkin works well.
Switching foods too often just re irritates the entire system, and honestly Science Diet foods are recommended by vets not because they are a good food but because the vets make money off them.
If it's a food intolerance, would they get better while still on the food? I totally dislike Science Diet foods... BUT... if it helps keep a dog stable, I'll suck it up and feed it. Meesha's ALT level has been better on l/d. :roll:

We had recurrent diarrhea in the pack (4 at the time). We were unable to get a definitive diagnosis... all cultures came back simply high in bacteria. We were treating with just Metronidazole and an anti-diarrhea med. My new vet at the time had attended a seminar on where they recommended using a couple rounds of Panacur. So we did and it eliminated the problem for good.

You might also ask about giving a probiotic to keep the good bacteria in the gut.

If a dewormer doesn't work and the problem continues, Idexx has a panel that can be run. We ran it on Kobuck when we couldn't fix his loose poo problem. It came back positive for Salmonella. You have to catch a sterile sample. 8)

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Only your vet can say whether any of this would be appropriate for your dogs.

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There has been a number of complaints on Candiae and one pet store in the Bay Area has decided to stop selling them due to finding pieces of rubber in several bags of dog food. Does anyone know about any recalls? i couldnt find them online.

Eeks! I just spoke with Canidae because we feed their foods to a some in our pack.

Canidae Customer Service- 800-398-1600
The lady I spoke with said their haven't been any reports of problems. She said they've been in business for 15 years and their products have never been subject to a recall. You might speak with the owner of this business and find out exactly who they reported this to. I guarantee that if rubber was found in food they were selling, they would have carefully documented what was going on. Customers would demand it.
Yes, we had her checked for nasties (again!) and it was negative. It's been three days now slowly switching to the Taste of the Wild and i see a bit of an improvement though it's still too early to know for sure. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
She also took Metronidazole just in case.

Is loose stool a problem with OES? I have started researching this and saw this suggested somewhere?
I've got 6 from various backgrounds so I don't really think it can be characterized as an OES problem. Not to say that some do indeed have food intolerance but we haven't experienced it.. yet. But we seldom have loose poo here so if it happens, we know something's going on. It's been a parasite or bacteria both times.

One more thing... are the boys at a good weight? Overfeeding can also cause loose stool.

Hoping you'll get this figured out quickly.
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