slow sit
 any ideas how to make it a quick sit as in under oh say 15 sec. I am not sure if she is being stubborn or do most sheepies do a slooooooowwww sit.  |
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| assuming there's no physical reason.......discomfort......sounds like someone is anticipating the next move or is showing reluctance. "I know once I sit we'll do something more exciting so why go all the way down." |
Mady is a terrible sitter, she's great with all the other things we taught her, come, stay, stop, wait etc. But she's a stubborn princess with sitting. Her butt will slooooooowly move downwards. I know there's no discomfort reason, because if there's a treat or new toy involved, her ass hits the floor like an anvil  |
Tiggy's sit is a bit slow but it's her down that is slooooow  She gradually eases back, sort of like a trestle table folding up in slo-mo.  She's always been like it. Maybe it's her joints but she doesn't show any effects anywhere else, so I do wonder if it's just a funny habit. |
| ahhh, time to amp up the fun factor, the energy and the payoff! You need to be more fun, and radiate more energy to your dog. If you are slow and methodical, your dog will be too. We play crazy fast games in our training when things get too boring or pokey. It is SO fun! And if all else fails, you need to make the reward be a bit more incentive. a treat, a toy, a release command and playtime - whatever works for your dog. |
| Thanks Dawn. I'm not sure what will work with Tiggy she even did slow drops at herding (the most exciting thing in the world as far as Tiggy's concerned). Dave our instructor was cracking up laughing at her. |
Mim wrote: Thanks Dawn. I'm not sure what will work with Tiggy she even did slow drops at herding (the most exciting thing in the world as far as Tiggy's concerned). Dave our instructor was cracking up laughing at her. Oh yes, slow drops are NORMAL in herding, for all breeds, especially when they are learning. Down means having self control... , no more chasing the sheep. Fast downs in herding are definitely later down the road. |
Aska only sits when SHE wants to sit !  It's really annoying ! |
OldieAska wrote: Aska only sits when SHE wants to sit ! It's really annoying ! It's called being a SHEEPDOG  Self control and being still, not much fun. Usually means stopping what they're doing. Definitely not fun!!! I have better luck teaching my dogs to drop, usually. But then, like Dawn says, I EXPECT them to take more convincing that this is a worthwhile activity, so I put more effort into making it rewarding for them. Mim - what you're describing is a rock back sit. Sybil does this too. I suspect it's structural in her case (very stuffy, not enough neck etc), though it can also be learned, I think (and needs to be UNLEARNED if you ever want to do competitive obedience, and it's a hard habit to undo, argh!) Her sister has nice natural tuck sits. If I'd been on the ball I would have intervened earlier with Sybil. Live and learn. Kristine |
got sheep wrote: ahhh, time to amp up the fun factor, the energy and the payoff! You need to be more fun, and radiate more energy to your dog. If you are slow and methodical, your dog will be too. We play crazy fast games in our training when things get too boring or pokey. It is SO fun! And if all else fails, you need to make the reward be a bit more incentive. a treat, a toy, a release command and playtime - whatever works for your dog. Do you mean do this, be animated and look fun AS you are asking them to sit? Or do you mean that, if in general you are fun and interesting that your dog will be more inclined to listen to you when you DO want her to sit? I wonder sometimes if I should be doing less dog park and more one on one playtime with Mady. I think that I am boring. Sounds dumb, but she is my first dog and I am still working on how to play with her, besides playing fetch. David is much more fun than I am, which is making me mad!  |
Mady wrote: got sheep wrote: ahhh, time to amp up the fun factor, the energy and the payoff! You need to be more fun, and radiate more energy to your dog. If you are slow and methodical, your dog will be too. We play crazy fast games in our training when things get too boring or pokey. It is SO fun! And if all else fails, you need to make the reward be a bit more incentive. a treat, a toy, a release command and playtime - whatever works for your dog. Do you mean do this, be animated and look fun AS you are asking them to sit? Or do you mean that, if in general you are fun and interesting that your dog will be more inclined to listen to you when you DO want her to sit? I wonder sometimes if I should be doing less dog park and more one on one playtime with Mady. I think that I am boring. Sounds dumb, but she is my first dog and I am still working on how to play with her, besides playing fetch. David is much more fun than I am, which is making me mad! Yes to the first part mostly.  And likely yes to the less dog park too. She's old enough now that she likely can get her exercise needs met doing activities WITH you ...things that promote being a TEAM, learning to read each other's body language, getting on the same page mentally, all that good stuff. When I'm teaching my classes, I keep reminding my human student half of the teams that they have to become the most interesting thing out there on the floor for their dog. If they aren't doing that, they aren't working at it hard enough. Respect and attention from your dog is earned and it's a 2 way street. If you aren't interacting with your dog and looking/focusing/engaging with them, they certainly won't give that behavior to you.....I really nag my students!  |
Mad Dog wrote: OldieAska wrote: Aska only sits when SHE wants to sit ! It's really annoying ! It's called being a SHEEPDOG Self control and being still, not much fun. Usually means stopping what they're doing. Definitely not fun!!! I have better luck teaching my dogs to drop, usually. But then, like Dawn says, I EXPECT them to take more convincing that this is a worthwhile activity, so I put more effort into making it rewarding for them. Mim - what you're describing is a rock back sit. Sybil does this too. I suspect it's structural in her case (very stuffy, not enough neck etc), though it can also be learned, I think (and needs to be UNLEARNED if you ever want to do competitive obedience, and it's a hard habit to undo, argh!) Her sister has nice natural tuck sits. If I'd been on the ball I would have intervened earlier with Sybil. Live and learn. Kristine Aska is very fast learner But when treats aren't around she does everything slow! She knows alot of tricks! But still.... SHEEPDOG I'm NOT a patient person ! I think my perfect breed is oes/german shephard mix ! - needs coat care - clever - fluffy ! Live and learn. - Thats right !  |
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