Any suggestions? I have him go to his bed and Laika stays but he doesn't stay for long. |
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I have this problem with Levi, too. As a matter of fact, yesterday at training I was giving him a good rub and praise for heeling and sitting as instructed when he started licking my face and then - CHOMP - his tooth snagged my upper lip. We're at a loss of what to do with this behavior too. He'll lick you and then unexpectantly you get a good chomp. |
Frankies Physical Therapist always tells him Kissing does not involve teeth. He always wants to nibble. Lisa and Frankie |
I had this problem with my boy, now almost 4. He would go up to strangers and let them pet him, lick them and suddenly, grab hold of their sweatshirt or whateger elses was near by Not a real bite but enough to scare people... I later found out he had a major ear infection (MRSA) and I guess apprently when people would pet him and hit the portion of his ear that was hurt, he would give that reaction... |
I have a male, OES who will 3 years old next month and unexpectedly and for no reason (that I am aware of) bit my 7 year old daughter's friend tonight in THE FACE!! I honestly don't know what caused our dog to bite this 7 year old girl, which the bite appeared deep enough that it could have required stiches. What happened was I was in the kitchen and the little girl was beside me at the sink, washing her hands. When she finished, she walked behind me, near where my OES was near his dog food. The next thing I know is that the little girl was crying, standing in front of the oven, holding her hands over her mouth. I thought she had rubbed up against the oven, which was on, but then she pointed to the dog. When I asked if he had bitten her, she nodded and then I saw the gash on her lower cheek on her face, near her chin. I never even heard my dog bark and he has been around several children in the house at one time before, but has never been aggressive. He is always just very passive, sweet, loyal, loving, and affectionate. I feel TERRIBLE about what has happened to my daughter's friend tonight as her family rushed over to pick her up and take her to the ER. Could someone please give me some advice. Tonight was the first time this little girl has ever spent the night at anyone's house and this is what happens. I can't even sleep as I am so worried about this little girl and what we should do to render and correct this situation. I absolutely ADORE my OES as he is always by my side and loving to each of the family members and guests, but I am terrified that this could happen again at any time and again for no reason perhaps. PLEASE HELP |
Not to ignore the response above but I see she started another post.... spacegirl....by snapping teeth do you mean "turtling"? This is what we call the air snap. She isn't trying to bite but occasionally will snap snap with her teeth. And YES!!! to bitting the bum!!!!! Mine does this when I try to dance around my house. It's all just to much for her and she nips me in the butt! As for barking when you get hugs.....hug away and ignore all her barking. I believe she is doing all the above for attention. The quickest way to settle the matter is to IGNORE!! She needs to know that she can't control your behavior. spacegirl21 wrote: Does anyone else dog snap their teeth? Langley does this I hate it. He does it to Laika when they get really going. He also does it to guest that come by and has at times bit bums! Sometimes when he is outside he will run by and bite my bum! He also has taken up barking when I get hugs! Any suggestions? I have him go to his bed and Laika stays but he doesn't stay for long. |
Yah he snaps at the air mostly. But on occasion grabs some bum in a fly by. I come to realize you cannot play with him or run around him he just gets too crazy. |
Tiggy does this too, its when she's excited. I can't dance around too much either. First she just jumps up on me but then she gets too excited and starts snapping then as she gets more excited she grabs a sleeve or my wrist . I am having some success with redirecting by giving her a tug toy. I got some insight into this aspect of her behaviour when I took Tiggy herding. When she was really excited chasing the sheep and wanted them to go faster she would give a little nip at their flanks. At first I was worried for the sheep, but the instructor said that it is normal herding behaviour and she was being gentle for a dog So I suspect its some of their herding instinct being aroused by excitment/movement. |
Just one observation of one dog... Darby's doing the teeth snapping thing in this video. There are a few times you can clearly see her doing it but she did it several times as they played. http://oesusa.com/DarbyAndKobuck101910.html She was playing with Kobuck and wanted to play but I think she was afraid he might get too exuberant. You see her do the teeth snapping thing, then go right back in to play again. She will do that if a dog she's not real used to yet is approaching too fast or is making her feel uncomfortable. I think it's her way of saying "be nice". She, on the other hand, was a total fruitloop. |
I loved the video YEs that's exactly what I was talking about....the "turtling" (snap snap). The only time it gets to me is when occasionally Chiquita will turtle me in my face and then bark bark bark. that's bad behavior in our house. |
He is still doing the teeth snapping. I wish I knew what to do. The guy I am seeing and I took the dogs for a 10 km walk. We came back and Langley still managed to be an nut. I thought wow this should tire him out and he should see the guy as part of the "pack" but he still barks and snaps his teeth and occasionally run by and grab him. He doesn't bite. But he does nip. I contacted my trainer again waiting to hear what she has to say. He is just too big and old to be doing this still. |
It is called 'SHURTLING' and Heart does it as a defense when other dogs, like Harry, continue to get in her face and bark,bark,bark. It is fierce looking and scary ~~the offending dogs ALWAYS backs off, so Heart can, amble away with dignity~~~~ She has never tried it on the grandkids, .. If she gets really excited and starts to lick, sometimes she will accidently nibble on my lip, which hurts!!! But I know it is not on purpose and she backs away when I yelp~~~ |
Brick will do that. We've played a game since he was a pup. We start wrestling a bit and I'll cup my hand over the top of his muzzle. He gets his head free and gives me 2 or 3 of those teeth snaps. Then I do it all over again. I call him a land shark when he does that. I think it's cute. He doesn't do that for any other reason or for any other person but me. Only when the above conditions are met. And I can get him to stop immediately by saying "gentle". No fly-by butt biting either. He will sometimes grab a pant leg when I'm leaving and he doesn't want me to go. |
Charm does the air "chomp chomp" particularly when we correct another behavior. "No Charm" then chomp chomp. I turn away and grin. I can't help it. In her case, it probably means something sassy. |
Whatever you call it, rather like a silent bark, excitement, fear, embarrasment, etc.....the dog is in an excited state a a bite or nip is very possible. Kobuck better understands this dog "speak" and could judge when the moment was clear to butt right back in. We on the other hand aren't part of the special language and must quickly lower the excitement level to one where snapping teeth are not present. That doesn't mean an end to play if the excitement level can be lowered a bit. To the child bite question, NEVER have strangers, especially children around a dog and food!! In fact when the visiting child, the dog should be kept away from the child and only allowed visits when all adults are closely monitoring the activity, not cooking, chatting, etc. Dogs can be taught to be calm around children and food, but the uprights need to take the time and dedicate themselves to this...........I don't see this happening in this case. The dog may end up dead because it seriously bit someone and the ones to blame will be the owners. |
Found this interesting article. http://www.theotherendoftheleash.com/tag/air-snaps Langley pretty much does all that mentioned in the article; his herding/prey drive is ssssssssssssssssssssssoooo much more obvious than Laika. A car came down my driveway last night Laika stood at watched like a good girl when I said stay. Langley raced about the car 10 circles before I got to him. I know exercise and redirection. But I would love to know what to do at the time of the butt pokes and teeth sapping. I think he is old enough to take for runs. I am going to dig out my bike with the walkie dog attachment. Of course it will be a process because anything that moves... must be taken care of I will try and take video so you can see first hand. Thanks! Lisa |
Well I talked with my trainer going to get together. She thinks he is resource guarding me. Figure some operant conditioning is in order. Been doing some reading on that subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning Can a dog resource guard but not be aggressive? I find him annoying not aggressive. |
You're his sheep? |
Guess so BAAAA! I actually would really love to get him out for testing herding. Laika sucked. But I have a feeling he would be awesome. Those two dogs are the opposite in every way. Weird. |
Jake our Lab was a bugger for nipping me on the rear and for him it was to initate play....he'd do a play bow and bark right after doing it. I was a bad puppy parent and would usualy engage in a game of chase with him He's been over the bridge for 5 years now....and I still miss those little nip and play sessions. I don't regret any of them. I was the only one he ever did it to |
Well I got a second opinion and this trainer thinks he is just excited and wants attention. I must say I am feeling that opinion more than resource guarding. |
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