Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
The Dog Whisperer: A Compassionate, Nonviolent Approach to Dog Training, by Paul Owens, Norma Eckroate). I have about 6 weeks until we get the puppy, so I still have time to research. Now my next big task is talking my husband into crating! He is very much into letting the dog have the run of the house, which I don't mind once it's trained. Every dog he's ever owned had the run of the house, but I don't think he's had a puppy since he was a kid (selective memory on the destruction a puppy can create). All the other dogs were housebroken when he got them. Thanks again. I'll let you know how things progress! |
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| I highly recommend using a crate at night . We did that with our 4 until they went all night and the crate stayed dry. After that they could sleep wherever they wanted to. |
| How long did it take? I figure I have a much better argument if I can give an ending point or a goal, so to speak. Like - We will probably only have her in a crate for 6 months or whatever the average is for a puppy to go all night! |
| My husband was the same, and I also feel guilty not giving her freedom. That said, it really makes it harder on you, the puppy and the house. It makes housetraining longer, you anxious and on edge, and the puppy stressing. Frequently, we would take the puppy out, she would relieve herself and then go inside and do it again 2 minutes later. Puppies just aren't dependable. Until 12 weeks, at minimum, think of her as a newborn infant and expect little. You are not failing or the pup is not dumb, as my husband kept saying, she is just young. After 12 weeks, pup is more like a toddler and begins "get it". We keep 15 week old Tigerlily in the laundry (she well and truly hated her crate). When I go to get her, I take her straight out, not looking at or talking to her. After she goes, I praise her, play with her, and give her heaps of attention. Plus, I know that we are "good" for awhile and give her some freedom inside. Then, I put her lead on a keep her next to me. This system works so much better than unrestrained freedom and hastens the time at which that would be possible. |
| If you love your furniture, rugs and the mail, CRATE, CRATE, CRATE.
These pups are overly hyperactive, and until trained, the best thing to do is teach them to stay in a crate when they are unsupervised. The phase will be gone when they are about 12 months old. The trick is teaching them the crate is a fun place to be, it's not cruel as long as the dog does not live on the crate, more like asking a kid to be in their room while you clean the house or are gone to do errands. After that, they can have the run of the house, OES can be trusted around the house with the proper training, but still... you can get very funny results.... just take a look at this! |
| Make sure you show him this site. DEFINATELY CRATE TRAIN!!!!!!!!!
Pooh is in the crate during the day, and gets an afternoon break then back in the crate until we get home from work. It's not about housebreaking anymore, but the fact that he's a puppy. Puppies get into trouble. Puppies EAT YOUR FURNITURE!!!!! Sounds like you guys and me and my wife are opposites. I want to give Pooh run of the house and she wants to keep waiting. He's 9 months now and we have been starting to give him very limited freedom for short periods of time, however he is NEVER in the crate when we are home. Crating will help your puppy learn to hold it in. My suggestion is that you crate for at least the first 8 months. That way you can be assured that the teething stage is pretty much done. Overnight, Pooh is no longer in the crate but in an "enclosure". It's one of those pet playpens so he's got lots o froom. We're getting closer to run of the house but we want to make sure the rules are completely solid in his head first! Good luck! |
I don't remember how long it took with Luke and Beau, maybe a few months. With Daisy and Rosco it was less time because the older boys pretty much trained them.  . It is less stressful until they're trained to crate them and easier on your carpet and nerves. You could look under the crate training section of the forum and get more info. |
| Oh, by the way. This breed has a habit of being a velcro dog. So even when they have full freedom, they would rather stay with you in what ever room you are in than wander around alone! |
| When the boys were in crates we put them in the foyer side by side so they could be together(They are littermates) Since my house has an open floor plan they could see and hear anything that was going on. They seemed pretty happy like that. Also(to my regret 8 yrs later) I slept on the sofa in case they needed anything during the night. Now if I go to bed they are all in the bedroom acting like nuts until I go back to the living room where they let me sleep in peace. |
| My 8 yr old OES is crate trained. It was the smartest thing I ever did. He has a HUGE crate that we refer to as "Tasker's Room" (he started with a smaller crate-size appropriate). He loves his crate. Most of the time these days he is left uncrated but with the door left open. The crate is "his spot" I will often find him in there just chillin' with a chew or toy. If unexpected company arrives (who maybe don't care for a 100lb ball of fur that thinks he's a lap dog) I simply say "Tasker go to you room" and he trots off to his room. If we have been outside on a particularly rainy or nasty day he goes into the crate to dry or until I can clean him, up. When he was much younger he stayed in the crate during the day. I can honestly say (and he has been with me since he was 6 wks old) that after the first week he NEVER had an accident in the house. He never went through the destructive phase that many puppies go through. When he was in his crate he had plenty of toys and things to chew so when he was outside the crate he didn't need to find things to chew. He feels safe and secure in his crate and I believe that crate training played a HUGE part in making him the WONDERFUL dog he is today. |
| Well I've had pups trained by 6 mths and 1 small dog still wasn't completely trained by a year...you really need to have the right products to take away any odor of pee or they will keep returning the area.
Remy has a crate but only the past 6 mths I give her free reign of the house at night...it is quieter than her in the metal crate. So now I have no worries about her in the house day or night...altho I don't work so I am here to let her out whenever she needs to go. She is 3 in June. Crates work really well, you just have to let them out of there too in the middle of the night. Keep the pup beside you so you hear the whines, and in know time they get control and have a full night sleep. |
We love the crate, for the first week Max was home we didn't use a crate! After that experience I decided we needed the crate. Even though he was gated in the kitchen, he was chewing everything. For me the crate has not been so much about potty training, but more about giving Max a safe place to be when I'm gone, at night when I'd like to sleep, and if I need a break to get something done. He has been remarkably easy to housebreak as well. He's about 14 weeks now and it's been a lot of work, but I think we're all going to make it.  |
| For the love of God, use the crate. About six months ago I read in the paper where a man came home to his apartment to find it completely ransacked; drawers opened and emptied on the floor, furniture torn to pieces; lamps knocked over.
The police were called, and after careful investigation, they determined that the puppies did it. A friend of my daughters has two pups that are litter mates. They didn't believe in crating. They arrived home one day to find a Lazyboy recliner stripped down to the frame. My dogs love their crates, and I have the peace of mind knowing that when my eyes can't be on them, they are safe. |
| Being the suck that I am we did'nt crate Sasha and it has been soooo hard, I don't know what a peacefull sleep is! I think I'm going to try it because she is only 10weeks so hopefully we still can have success. Good luck trying to convince your hubby and if all else fails let HIM deal with the destruction and mess to clean up ...he'll be convinced after the first night! |
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