Bath...
 I was just wondering, how often to bath your OES  I guess it just depends on the owner, but I still want to know  ? And how often you groom. Like a full line grooming ? |
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| billy gets a bath about once a month, he tries to tell me by trying to jump into the bath!! as for grooming, its a quick brush daily and then a big one on a sunday. |
| Train them early to love their bath. Mine still consider it a terrible torture. |
| I'm up to about every two weeks with Tonks and Luna, when it comes to the bath. If I go any longer, they begin to feel icky to the touch. I'm sensitive about "dirty dogs" and mine play hard, in whatever they can get into. I've yet to be able to manage a full line groom with them. I was never able to train them to lie down on the grooming table. So I try to do a full brush out with mat removal as best I can, about twice a week. Right now Luna is doing great, and has no mats. Tonks is so wiggly and just in general non-cooperative that its hard to get her 100% mat free in any one grooming. I worked on her last night, and probably will try to do a couple of mini-session today to get the last of the tangles out of her legs and her groin. I think how often you groom comes down to the dog, what they get into between groomings, and their temperment when it comes to the grooming. Both my girls hop into the bath without coaxing, and get up on the table nicely. Its what they do once they're on the table that seems to dictate how much grooming I can get done!!! |
SheepieBoss wrote: Train them early to love their bath. Mine still consider it a terrible torture. for the first year my girls got once-a-week baths. Many feel that is too much, but it sure did train them to accept it. They get in now with zero fuss. But if you bathe often, be sure to use a shampoo that isn't going to dry out their skin and coat, something made specifically for frequent use. |
| Thank you for the replies Is it to much bathing once in a 2 weeks ? Darth Snuggle wrote: SheepieBoss wrote: Train them early to love their bath. Mine still consider it a terrible torture. for the first year my girls got once-a-week baths. Many feel that is too much, but it sure did train them to accept it. They get in now with zero fuss. But if you bathe often, be sure to use a shampoo that isn't going to dry out their skin and coat, something made specifically for frequent use. How do I know that the shampoo is for frequent use Thanks  |
| Marin, Many years ago when I just had Punk he was bathed pretty much once a week. My parents wouldn't abide a dirty or smelly dog so that was the way things were. Since i used good shampoos and conditioner there was never a problem with his hair getting dry or brittle and a thorough drying combined with good quality food made sure his skin was fine. Now that I have more than a few dogs I don't have the chance to bathe them anywher near so often as I did Punk. Ideally I would like to bathe my dogs on a 2 or 3 week cycle but lately it has been much longer than that, mostly because of all the work around the house and on the cars. Right now I am "catching up" on my dogs and three of the four have been bathed in the last three weeks. I will finish brushing Dawn Eline out this week and she will complete the bathing cycle on the weekend. Then I'll restart the bathing cycle for them and hopefuly make the once a month cycle more routine, every 3 weeks would be great. I find that after 3 weeks my dogs are getting so dirty that they don't brush out as easily and then they start to matt more often as well. I don't use dog specific shampoos for the most part. Instead I use good quality "people" shampoos and conditioners. The one dog-specific shampoo that I do use is a whitening shampoo to try to keep the whites more brilliant than regular shampoos can. The thing to remember for that though is to wash the dog with regular shampoo first, rinse thoroughly and ONLY AFTER that use the whitening shampoo. It is just too expensive to use for basic cleaning. And when used on a clean dog you don't use as much to whiten the coats. It works so weel that once while in lien for group judging the Shetland Sheepdog handler behind me asked how I got Virgil's whites so "brilliant" - and her Sheltie was very white anyway. That was a great feeling of validation for all teh work he took to get ready for the show that weekend. If you are not going to show your dog then you can condition the whites quite heavily so they stay soft and a light conditioning of the grizzle (greys) will keep it in good condition without making it too soft. It takes a bit of practise to get it right. It is probably better to start with a small amount of conditioner and see how the coat is affected. It the greys don't get soft you can increase the amount of conditioner used. The whites aren't really a problem as they are supposed to be softer than the grizzle, they will never become soft and silky no matter how much you condition. The conditioner will also help make it easier to brush out Aska as you blow dry her as long as you make sure it is thoroughly rinsed out - it takes a lot of water to rinse it out - if not it is like trying to blow dry oil! Hope this helps. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
| I have Daisy groomed every 5 to 6 weeks, but I also brush her almost every day. |
OldieAska wrote: Thank you for the replies Is it to much bathing once in a 2 weeks ? Darth Snuggle wrote: SheepieBoss wrote: Train them early to love their bath. Mine still consider it a terrible torture. for the first year my girls got once-a-week baths. Many feel that is too much, but it sure did train them to accept it. They get in now with zero fuss. But if you bathe often, be sure to use a shampoo that isn't going to dry out their skin and coat, something made specifically for frequent use. How do I know that the shampoo is for frequent use Thanks A shampoo will say on the bottle if its safe to use on a more regular basis. One that I like is actually called "Day to Day" by Chris Christensen, and it is specifically meant to be used DAILY. I don't know if any of our dogs get THAT smelly, but its a pretty good one to use for very frequent bathing. But I find all of the Chris Christensen shampoos to be gentle enough for weekly usage, with one exception. Their White on White is a their version of a white brightening shampoo, and I always heard that those whiteners should not be used that often. So I rotate it out with other varieties. |
Carl Lindon wrote: The one dog-specific shampoo that I do use is a whitening shampoo to try to keep the whites more brilliant than regular shampoos can. The thing to remember for that though is to wash the dog with regular shampoo first, rinse thoroughly and ONLY AFTER that use the whitening shampoo. I have a whitening shampoo and I just don't think it works that well I don't use it every bath. I have just now, that she's not in a full coat.... just something to make the coat soft and with a good smell. And thanks Carl, this totally helped ! - Cheers to you to  And thanks Darth Snuggle you helped me to ! I think I'll bath her now just every 2-3 weeks, as she's not in full coat |
OldieAska wrote: Carl Lindon wrote: The one dog-specific shampoo that I do use is a whitening shampoo to try to keep the whites more brilliant than regular shampoos can. The thing to remember for that though is to wash the dog with regular shampoo first, rinse thoroughly and ONLY AFTER that use the whitening shampoo. I have a whitening shampoo and I just don't think it works that well I don't use it every bath. I have just now, that she's not in a full coat.... just something to make the coat soft and with a good smell. And thanks Carl, this totally helped ! - Cheers to you to And thanks Darth Snuggle you helped me to ! I think I'll bath her now just every 2-3 weeks, as she's not in full coat keep your whitening shampoo on for 10 minutes, either keeper them in the bath or let them run round |
SlaveToTheBrush wrote: keep your whitening shampoo on for 10 minutes, either keeper them in the bath or let them run round Thank you I didn't know that ! I'll try that next time |
Both my dogs get a bath when they are dirty...or stinky. It depends on what they roll in  . We have been known to go a couple months between baths. |
| Will the whitening shampoos work on the beard area? We just got out sheepie a week ago and she is very brown under her mouth. Thanks |
Ryleigh wrote: Will the whitening shampoos work on the beard area? We just got out sheepie a week ago and she is very brown under her mouth. Thanks Yes! But you just have to get used to a brown mouth OES just always get brown around the mouth . But the whitening shampoo does it little better |
Quote: I don't use dog specific shampoos for the most part. Instead I use good quality "people" shampoos and conditioners. I realized the other day that the reason some of my dog's beards are getting discolored is because I'm not using the human conditioner any more. The dog conditioners I've used just don't do a good job. So... is it ok to use human conditioner on the beards? |
6Girls wrote: Quote: I don't use dog specific shampoos for the most part. Instead I use good quality "people" shampoos and conditioners. I realized the other day that the reason some of my dog's beards are getting discolored is because I'm not using the human conditioner any more. The dog conditioners I've used just don't do a good job. So... is it ok to use human conditioner on the beards? My groomer says it is not good for the dogs skin and I should NEVER use a human conditioners or shampoos  Is that not true ? |
| dog shampoos and human shampoos have a different ph balance. its the same as you wouldnt use an adult shampoo on a baby. dogs have more sensative skin so the shampoo is more gentle |
Quote: dog shampoos and human shampoos have a different ph balance. its the same as you wouldnt use an adult shampoo on a baby. dogs have more sensative skin so the shampoo is more gentle What is the best dog conditioner for the whites? |
| i love kelco plum white conditioner, combined with the plum whitener, it makes them soft and fluffy too. |
| Thank you, Karen! |
| Oh, brother... I just found a gallon of Espree Luxury Remoisturizer conditioner in the cupboard. I forgot that I had ordered it.  |
6Girls wrote: Oh, brother... I just found a gallon of Espree Luxury Remoisturizer conditioner in the cupboard. I forgot that I had ordered it. You "lost" a whole GALLON???  Wish I could do that. |
| I know... that sounded so lame. But I had tried so many different shampoos for Bumble's skin. It would appear to help so I'd buy a gallon because it was cheaper, then his skin would get icky again so I'd stick the bottle in the cupboard. One of those bottles split and leaked all over the place so I had to take everything out to clean up the mess. And I found the conditioner... yay! |
Ryleigh wrote: Will the whitening shampoos work on the beard area? We just got out sheepie a week ago and she is very brown under her mouth. Thanks My partner is a groomer and she just come back from a grooming seminar in Chicago, and in one of the seminars they were talking about rbownish beards in white dogs, the groomer giving the seminar say that a shampoo with blueberries or pomegranate is ideal to take off the brown color. The brown color is oxidation from the drool and food, so both of this inf=grediants are great to take that oxidation away. Also she use a brand of shampoos call: Nature Specialties, they are one of the best quality shampoos for dogs in the market, they are expensive, but they dont dry the hair or skin, they smell wonderful too! To make that whites wither we use the Blueining shampoo and the dogs come out so withe, that hurt your eyes in the sun ! We bath our dogs yesterday, and I use that shampoo in Tashee the OES and Cooper my malteese and both were shinning like a star, and both were very fluffy and soft, Anther thing when we walk in the house after going out for a weel deserved dinner, after bathing and grooming dogs all the day the house smell like clean and nice dogs !! |
| ok this is probably a dumb question but Im going to ask anyway. Do you use the whitening shampoo on the whole body or just the white parts? |
Ryleigh wrote: ok this is probably a dumb question but Im going to ask anyway. Do you use the whitening shampoo on the whole body or just the white parts? Just the white parts If you're not showing, any good shampoo will work on the grays. Otherwise you probably will want something to promote good texture. |
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