OES Rescues Question
how come I rarely see any OES on petfinder. I know they are amazing and loving dogs and who would want to ever give them up, I'd never give up mine, but with all the posts I find here I wonder why these rescues aren't posting more dogs. I would love to see rescues take care of the pups instead of people on craigslist. |
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| I can't speak for all of them, but I know some people who want to rehome their dogs won't work with a rescue. One lady I chatted with in my area wants to meet potential new owners herself. She doesn't want someone else doing it. We got our Rudy from a rescue in Florida. She currently has one Petfinder listing, and that's the only place the specific dogs are posted, yet someone on this board who knows her recently shared that she has 11 dogs currently in rescue needing homes. So, it's really hard to tell from a vantage point online what the real deal is with any specific dog or specific rescue. Some are very busy places and may be too busy to do the online listings. That being said, last week there were 73 OES and OES mix dogs listed on Petfinder, I believe. I'm sure there are many wise people here who will be able to answer more completely. |
| I know in the case of the OES Rescue Network of the South East, we often have waiting lists of potential owners that we will try to match up with suitable dogs. When we have lists of potential applicants for dogs, why post a dog that may not actually be available on Petfinder? Also, many times the dogs we get in are "special needs" and not really appropriate for the average household. So these dogs also aren't fair to put on Petfinder; you really can't advertise a dog as being "available for adoption" if they were surrendered to a Rescue for biting issues or similar reasons that would make them difficult to place in your average home. Lastly, when rescue takes in a sheepdog, a fairly large percent of the time there are serious health issues; something as common as parasites, or something as serious as heartworm, to something as severe as open sores and wounds from years without grooming, embedded collars and harnesses.... we get them all, and these all make a dog "special needs" for a considerable time. These dogs will live in foster care while their hurts heal and in time they are deemed "adoptable". And its not unusual in these cases for a bond to develop between the foster family and a dog in their care, and then you have a case of "foster failure". And again, no dog for Petfinder. |
ariellehg wrote: I would love to see rescues take care of the pups instead of people on craigslist. One last thing; Rescue folks will often read Craigs List for dogs, and when we see them call the owners and see if we can offer them the option of surrendering their dog to rescue instead of selling. I can think of a couple of instances in our area where the owner was very happy to do just that. Often they don't know about rescue, and they love their dog enough to not leave them at a kill shelter. Non-kills have ridiculously long waiting lists, so people will turn to Craigs List thinking that they can have some control over who they send their dog with, and the minimal amount of money they ask for is often to discourage people that would take a free pet with no real interest in caring for it properly. |
| We list dogs on Petfinder and that is how probably most of them have been seen. Some are word of mouth but, not often. That being said I have a dog listed on there now who is a resource guarder, it does say that in his description so, I don't think it is unfair to have him listed there. He has to go to a home with experience and we will wait on that home if it takes a year.(or two) I also have a foster that is not ready due to her health and that is why she will not be listed until ready. I agree with Allison on the CL thing, we also call and offer to help but, a lot of times people either want to get money or to rehome themselves. |
| Some rescues also have their own websites where they put the information up of their dogs. An example is the Texas OES rescue. They have several dogs on their website, but not all of them are on petfinder. I think a lot of it has to do with time, too. A lot of rescue people work and also foster, go through apps, do home visits, etc. Sometimes it's hard to get all the information up on the Petfinder or the site right away. Also, sometimes there are health issues that make a dog unavailable until all things have been treated (heartworm, surgeries, etc). |
Some rescues only use Petfinder for difficult, harder place dogs, while other rescues use it for just about every dog that comes in. There is no right or wrong way to use it... it's a proven tool that can be used to match up dogs with the right family. Rescues will often go through adoption applications already on hand to find good matches... after all there are people that have been waiting! It's all about matching the right dog with the right family... it can take time for that right dog or family to come along. So if someone is hoping to adopt, get your application submitted early. Some dogs never make it online because they can be placed using good applications already on hand. My personal opinion is that keeping a rescue's name before the public in any way possible is a good thing. Petfinder is a free advertising medium and a proven way to rehome dogs. If it weren't effective, it wouldn't be used.  The same goes for Craigslist... I've seen a few rescues use this to place dogs too. I'm sure some people are cringing but think about it... the applicant must still pass all the requirements/tests in order to adopt.Panda was a difficult dog to rehome... behavioral challenges, housetraining issues along with hip dysplasia. New England OES Rescue found us because of Petfinder!  |
| Our basset rescue uses petfinder for only a few dogs at a time - and yes, it's usually the harder to place, or those that have been in the "system" for a long time. Even though we use all in home fostering (only occasional kennel stays for emergencies), there are just so many.... We serve all of MN, all of WI and Il into the Chicago area - and have over 80 bassets (and some basset mixes) in our care....the rest are listed on the web site ( www.bbrescue.org ) that are ready to be adopted. There are more that are in homes, but not adoptable at this time....as mentioned. |
| I too have wondered why (at least NEOESR) does not at least post their dogs on the website?? The other rescues I work with put each dog as they come into rescue on the web page with a description (magsr.org for example) They are all on petfinder too but I guess some rescues do things differently. and..maybe because there are less sheepdogs out there then GSD's or labs or pitbulls (my word they are everywhere.) I just don't know I for one would like to look at a rescues website and see the dogs and description. |
got sheep wrote: Our basset rescue uses petfinder for only a few dogs at a time - and yes, it's usually the harder to place, or those that have been in the "system" for a long time. Even though we use all in home fostering (only occasional kennel stays for emergencies), there are just so many.... We serve all of MN, all of WI and Il into the Chicago area - and have over 80 bassets (and some basset mixes) in our care....the rest are listed on the web site ( http://www.bbrescue.org ) that are ready to be adopted. There are more that are in homes, but not adoptable at this time....as mentioned. Holy Cow... 80 dogs?! That's incredible. I wonder why there are so many... I didn't think a Basset would be hard to place... who doesn't love that Lincoln Continental looking dog? |
* Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: got sheep wrote: Our basset rescue uses petfinder for only a few dogs at a time - and yes, it's usually the harder to place, or those that have been in the "system" for a long time. Even though we use all in home fostering (only occasional kennel stays for emergencies), there are just so many.... We serve all of MN, all of WI and Il into the Chicago area - and have over 80 bassets (and some basset mixes) in our care....the rest are listed on the web site ( http://www.bbrescue.org ) that are ready to be adopted. There are more that are in homes, but not adoptable at this time....as mentioned. Holy Cow... 80 dogs?! That's incredible. I wonder why there are so many... I didn't think a Basset would be hard to place... who doesn't love that Lincoln Continental looking dog? There are a lot of BYB's - most basset rescues don't look like show bassets. (as in many breeds) And, I think they suffer from some of the same issues as OES do...even though they look nothing like each other! 1) People fall for "the look" - long ears, droopy face in the case of the bassets 2) people forget there is a real active dog behind that face - and get overwhelmed as that cute pup grows and is an active hound who lives to follow his nose. 3) and now the economy is affecting all dogs  We used to have close to 50 in rescue at any given time, we've been 80 - 100 the past year. I feel like I am busy advocating for both bassets and OES all the time! - both are more than just a cute dog that attracts attention - they both are real dog breeds that thrive on having a job and doing things |
got sheep wrote: * Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: got sheep wrote: Our basset rescue uses petfinder for only a few dogs at a time - and yes, it's usually the harder to place, or those that have been in the "system" for a long time. Even though we use all in home fostering (only occasional kennel stays for emergencies), there are just so many.... We serve all of MN, all of WI and Il into the Chicago area - and have over 80 bassets (and some basset mixes) in our care....the rest are listed on the web site ( http://www.bbrescue.org ) that are ready to be adopted. There are more that are in homes, but not adoptable at this time....as mentioned. Holy Cow... 80 dogs?! That's incredible. I wonder why there are so many... I didn't think a Basset would be hard to place... who doesn't love that Lincoln Continental looking dog? There are a lot of BYB's - most basset rescues don't look like show bassets. (as in many breeds) And, I think they suffer from some of the same issues as OES do...even though they look nothing like each other! 1) People fall for "the look" - long ears, droopy face in the case of the bassets 2) people forget there is a real active dog behind that face - and get overwhelmed as that cute pup grows and is an active hound who lives to follow his nose. 3) and now the economy is affecting all dogs We used to have close to 50 in rescue at any given time, we've been 80 - 100 the past year. I feel like I am busy advocating for both bassets and OES all the time! - both are more than just a cute dog that attracts attention - they both are real dog breeds that thrive on having a job and doing things ...ummm Dawn you are a great representation of any breed! Thank you for all that you do!  |
| Thank you all so much. My first assumption was one someone mentioned that there is a waiting list and dogs are matched up with good owners without the need of petfinder. I hope this is mostly the truth |
We put almost all of our dogs on Petfinder and have a link on our web site directly to our Petfinder listings. (thanks, Jaci!)  In Indiana, our intake of dogs seems to be higher in the spring and fall than the rest of the year. This spring we were scrambling trying to situate dogs into various foster homes, answer Petfinder inquiries, do home visits, vet reference checks, etc.  Things have been calm for a month or so but now we're starting to hear of more dogs needing homes again.As mentioned earlier, some dogs have medical issues or require more training that take extra time so they're listed when they are ready to be adopted. One exception we had this year was a pair of 10 week old OES littermates.  We gave our volunteers first option to adopt them so there ARE benefits to being a rescue volunteer!  Nita Midwest Old English Sheepdog Rescue http://www.midwestoesrescue.com/ |
6Girls wrote: My personal opinion is that keeping a rescue's name before the public in any way possible is a good thing. Petfinder is a free advertising medium and a proven way to rehome dogs. If it weren't effective, it wouldn't be used. The same goes for Craigslist... I've seen a few rescues use this to place dogs too. I'm sure some people are cringing but think about it... the applicant must still pass all the requirements/tests in order to adopt.I totally agree! We use Petfinder for all our dogs and Craigslist for any dog that we think might take a bit longer to place. With craigslist we end up having to weed out a lot of crazies, but we have gotten some of the most amazing homes from it (including homes for 2 Old English Sheepdogs!). We have also gotten a new board member and tons of volunteers. It's an excellent tool for anyone that has the time to sort through a bit of nonsense to get to the good stuff! |
| I got Bella this past Oct from NEOESR and worked with Madeline. There was nothing on the website about available dogs but I sent he an email and talked with her about what I was was looking for (an adult female). She called me back one week later to let me know that she was rescusing a male and female. 2 days later I had Bella and her brother was heading to Canada. I think things can move pretty quick for some rescues fast when they know that they have names and info on people looking to adopt. |
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