New Puppy-need your help please

I just got my 10 week old OES puppy last Thursday. He is the sweetest thing and I love him to death! I am having some problems with crate training, specifically at night. He was ok the first night but it is getting worse and worse each night. When I put him in at night he cries and cries and cries. I don't mean whimpering cries, I mean loud full earpiecing barking cries. This goes on for hours. I've tried tapping on the crate while telling him quiet by that doesn't work. It was so bad last night I had to go outside to get away from it and my other dog was so freaked out he wouldn't come back into the house, I had to carry him inside. I finally did take him out of the crate even though I know you are not supposed to when they're crying but I just had to. He immediately lied down and went to sleep. I put him back in the crate and he was fine for about an hour and then he started again. He gets lots of exercise and playtime throughout the day so I l know that is not the problem. Any advise or suggestins would be appreciated. Thank you
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Welcome to the Forum!!! You WILL get alot of advice and support here!

If you search " getting a new puppy" section, there are many, many threads on this very subject...(probably quite a few from ME!!! :lol: :lol: )!!!

I had so much trouble when Heart came to me in July 07! She did NOT like that crate~add to that she hated St. Louis weather since she came from Colorado,~~add to that she missed her bros,sisses and mommie.
Even though I had two other dogs that kept her company, she would cry so much, I tried putting her crate in the family room all by herself, THAT didn't work...I tried putting her crate in our bedroom where we ALL sleep, THAT didn't work, either!!

After a couple of weeks of ignoring her, she finally settled down, to a point...At least she wouldn't 'scream' like in the past..

Just a warning!!!! When I finally allowed her to sleep free with the rest of us, she would body slam our bed at ohhhh..about 4 in the morning to get me up!!! This sheepie is a morning dog!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

She is 3 years old now, and still is an early riser!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
Good Luck and hope you decide to stay !!!! :clappurple: :clappurple:
HI Welcome to the forum.

When we got Frankie a year ago. I had a smaller crate that I put on a chest next to my side of the bed so he could see me. He would wimper a little, I set the alarm for 3 hours and made him get up to potty. Then I would carry him right back into the crate. If he started to wimper I would put my fingers in the crate so he knew I was there.

This seemed to work for us.

Good luck

Lisa and Frankie
Try running a fan, on low, towards his crate.....maybe angled to the side a bit. I know it sounds stupid but I have seen it work firsthand.
ChSheepdogs wrote:
Try running a fan, on low, towards his crate.....maybe angled to the side a bit. I know it sounds stupid but I have seen it work firsthand.


That works for me and my dogs.
I have had GREAT luck with putting the crate next to the bed so the pup knows I'm there. This has worked wonderful for my last three pups.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Last night was a little better, he only cried and screamed for about an hour instead of several hours! I did have the crate right up against the bed with my fingers through the door but I think he just doesn't like to be confined. My husband got up and lied on the floor infront of his crate and he went right to sleep ( the pup!). He came back to bed and left the pillow and blanket on the floor thinking he could trick him but as soon as he woke up he new there was nobody there! Smart Puppy! His name is Bently and even though we are having these issues I am so happy to have him. I will try the fan tonight and please, keep the suggestions coming!!! Thanks again!
They need to learn that separation and reasonable confinement are just part of life. At first it can be hard. If you want the dog always to be by your side, the crate next to the bed is a good idea. Otherwise, probably not. We left a fan on for Bumble at first too (not blowing on the puppy though)... you can try a radio or TV on low too. I've found these sometimes help sooth a puppy. As he settles in, you wean them off it.

When a new puppy fusses at night after going to bed, I get up, open the crate, put a collar/leash on them and quickly take them to the fence to potty with no interaction and absolutely no play. No potty, fine, back into the house, a quick (small) drink of water (no food what so ever), then immediately back into the crate with no chitchat. The collar/leash are removed, a quick pat, the door is shut, light's turned off and I go back to bed. If it starts again, I know nothing is wrong and the puppy isn't sick so, dear little one, you just have got to adapt.

You'll get through this. :D Are you feeding all meals in the crate so he comes to view it as a good place? It helps make a crate a good thing- http://oesusa.com/BumbleNightNight.html
We found putting the crate in our bedroom with some favorite toys helped sleep through the night. I will tell you, both my dogs gave me some difficulty originally at 8 or 9 weeks old. But I moved them into my room and now at 4 and 2 years old, they LOVE their crates!

Hang in there. It gets easier. If you cannot put crate and pup in your bedroom while you sleep, try a low radio with some low pitched voices...or maybe a ticking clock...something that is a low pitched noise not to scare them but a noise that "keeps them comany" while they sleep. Also, sometimes putting one of your pieces of clothing, with your "smell" on it, might help..Its scary to be a,pup away from your litter mates and dog Mom and in a new place...
Oh I can totally understand.

We have a 15 week old and have gone through the same barking, whining, scratching and lack of sleep routine as you. I am happy to say, with the fan, and radio (for daytime naps only) and ignoring our Howie, he has graduated to sleeping from 10 pm until 6:30 am! It was a LONG few weeks of heartache hearing our guy cry, and not settling back to sleep.

I agree the fan (turned slightly) really helps, I think it could be the air but mostly the low humming sound. I also have a foam pad with a sheet over it in the crate and that really helped with the longer sleep time.
Yesterday, Howie for the first time took himself to bed!!!

Stick with it, be strong, I know it is hard, but in the end so worth it.
Thanks to all of you who gave me suggestions and advise to help my pup Bently adjust to being in a crate at night! I am happy to report that he is doing much better now and last night he walked right into his crate when we went to bed! I switched to a smaller crate, put it beside the bed and turned on the fan. I also started feeding him in his crate. Such great advise from all of you and I am so thankful to have found this forum!! Next problem.....nipping my ankles!! Thanks again to all!

Kristin and Bently
I know a lot of people crate their dogs and especially their sheepies but when I got Lily I only crated her for the first few days. She never threw a fit or anything, I just felt bad about doing it. What I found out is that she was fine not in the crate. Because I have other older dogs she followed what they did. Of course my other dogs are geriatric old so they don't do much and Lily gets kinda ticked about that but they did keep her in tact when she was little.

You said that your sheepie layed down beside you when you took him out of the crate. If he isn't getting in trouble, than why not just try letting him out of the crate at night and see what happens? Ya, thats a scary thought huh? lol If he is in bed with you than he's not going to be able to do anything any way without waking you up so I'm thinking he might be fine.

Lily is 8 months old now. She has only destroyed two things. My Chi Flat Iron, which was pretty much my fault because I left it where she could easily get to it and our house phone which my daughter left on the floor. Outside of that she has not chewed up anything except a ton of her toys!! Ha!!

I say try it without the crate one night when you don't have to work the next morning and see what happens. Put a gate up that way he can't leave your bedroom and make sure there are plenty of toys around and nothing that he can get to. You might be very surprised and find out he is great without the crate. Because you have another dog your sheepie will more than likely want to hang with it. So, if your other dog sleeps in your bed, your sheepie might do the same thing. Give it a try, it might just be your doggie doesn't need to be crated. :P
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