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If in doubt, it would be best to have the MDR1 testing done. That is the genetic test that determines drug sensitivity to many of the meds (including wormers, and for heartworm) that cause illness or death in herding breed dogs. I did Chewie, Martha and their brother Will (who lives in the area with another family) and it's really simple. Here is the link to the WSU site - they handle the testing. http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-VCPL/breeds.aspx You can request a test kit, do the cheek swab and sent it back with the fee ($70) . Kristine and I did several and got a discount, and I also believe we rushed them in before the rates went up... Here's some test info: http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-VCPL/test.aspx We got normal/normal results, so no drug resistant issues. I use Ivermectin for mine for heartworm, and natural products for fleas/ticks. Knock on wood, no ticks this year (and we live on a farm and have grass and trees all over, and ticks too), and have been flea free with the group for many years now. |
YEARS ago when I worked for a vet, my vets were leary of the online prescription companies. They were finding that they were selling expired medicine or medicine that was prescribed for different countries and not for the Americas. I think there was a different level of chemical that was used in different countries. This was years ago, so I don't know if this problem was corrected. My vets decided that if a person wanted the medication, they would sell it to them at the price that the online source was selling it to avoid complications. |
* Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: YEARS ago when I worked for a vet, my vets were leary of the online prescription companies. They were finding that they were selling expired medicine or medicine that was prescribed for different companies and not for the Americas. I think there was a different level of chemical that was used in different companies. This was years ago, so I don't know if this problem was corrected. My vets decided that if a person wanted the medication, they would sell it to them at the price that the online source was selling it to avoid complications. My vet (and in a small town - pop. under 2000) does price matching as well. But, many of the Mankato vets (bigger city - about 50,000 - and a 10 minute drive from me) are not that great, so mine and 2 other vets in surrounding towns get a LOT of business from Mankato clients. Word of mouth advertising works - and they all draw quite the client base from outside their own local area. |
Quote: "... and natural products for fleas/ticks. Knock on wood, no ticks this year (and we live on a farm and have grass and trees all over, and ticks too), and have been flea free with the group for many years now..." Dawn, what natural product do you use for fleas? |
I was just going to ask the same question! I would love to know of any natural flea treatments. |
6Girls wrote: Quote: "... and natural products for fleas/ticks. Knock on wood, no ticks this year (and we live on a farm and have grass and trees all over, and ticks too), and have been flea free with the group for many years now..." Dawn, what natural product do you use for fleas? Yes, Dawn do tell!!! I use the Bug Off Garlic which worked great last year but, I think I let it lapse too long... We are getting back on track though |
Let's hope it's not sheep poo! |
6Girls wrote: Let's hope it's not sheep poo! If it is, then Mady should be well-protected, she sampled quite a bit of sheep poo at the sheep farm when we took her for her herding instinct test! |
NO sheep poo! Although it is available, mine ignore it...the novelty apparently wore off long ago, thank goodness! I use emu oil spray. It is the Kenic brand, Kalaya Emu Oil Pet Spray, from Glo-Marr Products. Website is glo-marr-kenic.com . It has the pesticide properties as a side benefit - most use it as a moisturizing treatment, for coat and skin. I like it as it also seems to repel a lot of junk from getting into the coat - we call it a teflon coating! I'm not sure how well it will work for those tough southern fleas who are exposed to chemicals all year round....but it works for me, and it's actually making my dog's coat and skin more healthy, instead of adding poisons to their system. And mine do go lots of places - training, shows, trials, weight pulls, races.....so they are getting plenty of chances at exposure. I use it with Chewie as a grooming spray before we go places. Best is if I am line grooming and spray it in deeply with the layers. But in a pinch I use it as a mist over him as I do a quick fluff brushing. For the other dogs I mist it on and then quick brush over it to set it in. It comes as a liquid, and I put it in a spray bottle in the mist setting. |
Very cool... THANK YOU for this info! We used Revolution on everyone on June 1st... we don't usually use any topicals. But we needed to see if undetected mites might be a problem for Bumble so everyone was treated. We don't usually have a flea problem but I found two on Panda last week. UGH!! |
Dawn are you sure there is no Aussie in you? Emu Oil you like tim tams,next you'll be having vegemite on toast for breakfast!! That's interesting the emu oil must try it better then the chemical stuff we are always putting on our dogs. Plenty of access to the big bird stuff here. |
lisaoes wrote: Dawn are you sure there is no Aussie in you? Emu Oil you like tim tams,next you'll be having vegemite on toast for breakfast!! That's interesting the emu oil must try it better then the chemical stuff we are always putting on our dogs. Plenty of access to the big bird stuff here. Never tried the vegemite toast Who knows, I might like it! I really like the emu oil. Although I really don't like the smell as you spray it on. No pet emu's for me, I guess. And no one else I know even notices it has a smell, or they think it smells goood. And I think the Isle Of Dog Primrose Oil shampoo smells too - and no one else does. I must have a weird olfactory. |
We use Frontline Topspot for adult fleas, ticks and chewing lice, and Sentinel for heartworm and flea eggs. I hate using these chemicals on Oscar, but they do the trick. We have a huge tick problem here (surrounded by forest preserves and golf course) and every tick I find on him is laying on top of his fur in the fetal position . Laurie and Oscar |
I have used Frontline for over 13 years now for fleas & ticks. Used to use it once every other month. This year my vet said to go to once a month as the fleas & ticks are getting a bit more resistent. Knock on wood, have yet to see a flea or tick on any of my dogs. I order my Frontline from PetEdge at the beginning of the season. Identical as what the vet gets. I order when they are running a deal with free shipping. Some of the other online sites are not identical as stated in an earlier post. For heartworm I use Interceptor. I purchase that from my vet. |
I assume a better price from you vet for the heartworm???? |
No necessarily. But you need an Rx for it if you want to get it outside. My vet has been really good to us over the years & I feel like I should give him some of the meds business. Plus, I can stop in anytime & get only as much as I want or need. |
Okay, I have been jinxed by this thread! Haven't seen a flea on Oscar, EVER, until yesterday. UGH!!!!! He just had his Frontline two days ago, so maybe this flea was on his way out, but UGH!!!!!!! I checked him over with a microscope, and nothing else popped up , except maybe the start of yet another skin infection. Will the fun never end????? Laurie and Oscar |
Quote: I use emu oil spray. It is the Kenic brand, Kalaya Emu Oil Pet Spray, from Glo-Marr Products It arrived today... that was very fast service. And it's not at all gross like I thought it might be It actually has a very nice scent because of the mango and papaya! |
6Girls wrote: Quote: I use emu oil spray. It is the Kenic brand, Kalaya Emu Oil Pet Spray, from Glo-Marr Products It arrived today... that was very fast service. And it's not at all gross like I thought it might be It actually has a very nice scent because of the mango and papaya! lol - I TOLD you I was the one with a weird sense of smell. See, it just proves it some more... I can't wait until you use it and then feel the coat - that "teflon" feel is awesome. |
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