Thank you, Lisaoes, for the groomimng lesson
I wanted one more time to thank you for the grooming lesson you posted for me last October. Last weekend we have been to the show again and this time we have had some hairdo  I used all your instructions and directions which proved priceless  I have sheared the head and the rear end with the thinning scissors, very carefully, just a little bit, because it was my first experiment, but it has done magics.  I think, I have found a couple of my own tricks I was not going to wash the grey, as I was advised, but the coat made my fingers dirty once I was brushing. Surely, I didn't want a judje to dirty their hands at my dog if they decided to touch it for some reason, so I used some dry shampoo, and it worked very well, the coat became even fluffier and clean on touch. I couldn't get any grooming staff which a professional groomer recommended (besides, it might coast me a small fortune if I managed all of the products  ), so I was thinking what would do the job to make the neck graceful without pulling half of the mane out. They said that usual conditioners and wet towels make things even worse. Finally, I tried Sunsilk 'care and repair' on the still wet hair. It made the coat feel and look healthy and kept it hanging down. I didn't want to wash the top of the head but simply couldn't avoid it while washing ''the face''. As a result, the top had lost its shape. Necessity is mother of invention, so I again put some Sunsilk, this time on the dry hair, and I rubbed some baby pouder in it to finish with. Surprisingly, it did quite a good job, holding brushed backwards hair and giving it the necessary shape. And' no goo in a do'!!!!  Probably, professionals are laughing at me reading that, but as I said, necessity is mother of invention. |
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| If there's a lot of dust and dirt in the grays, but you don't want to wash, you can take a high powered dog dryer and just blow it all out before the show, too. It's amazing how much dust will blow out of there when you hit the dry coat with all that air! |
ButtersStotch wrote: If there's a lot of dust and dirt in the grays, but you don't want to wash, you can take a high powered dog dryer and just blow it all out before the show, too. It's amazing how much dust will blow out of there when you hit the dry coat with all that air! Yep, that's what I did last week on Chewie before our specialty. I washed his whites at the Paw after class, and using the tandem dryers I blasted him good! Fluffs them up really nice too  |
| Having a sheepie is one very complicated thing. Having a sheepie in full coat is a whole other very complicated thing. Almost 3 years in I feel I still know nothing  |
Quote: If there's a lot of dust and dirt in the grays, but you don't want to wash, you can take a high powered dog dryer and just blow it all out before the show, too. It's amazing how much dust will blow out of there when you hit the dry coat with all that air! I've done that too! Couldn't believe you can actually see the stuff blow off. |
| I will try to blow. I used to vacuum my Airdaile, but I am afraid that after vacuuming a sheeppie I would need to buy a new vacuum cleaner To blow it off sounds a lot safer To the vacuum cleaner, I mean. I have to confess that the coat was not only dusty, but left greasy residue on fingers. I have never believed in that dry shampoos, but it worked. I wonder, what would help to restore the coat after shampooing to make it less brittle? I have read about Plush Puppy spray based on oil, but I wish I know about something more available. |
| A good dry clean method is corn starch or potato flour, sprinkled on the coat and brushed out, removes the dust and if the coat is too oily takes that away to give it volume again and fluffs it up again. I wash all over twice a year, before a show just the whites. The day before after washing the head coat, spray some hairspray into it and leave it in there and then brush it out completely, gives volume and poof to the head coat after washing it but leaving no product there for the judge to feel. You can repeat the process that morning of the show but make sure it is completely brushed out and it then helps poof the head coat out after it softens due to eing washed.  Try and get a hairspray with no scent, I use a finishing freeze as easy and not sticky to brush out without damaging the head coat and helps fluff the head coat out lovely without any trace of product for the ring. Now necks, you do need to strip, I dont cut the shawl I use a rake and work from underneath lifting the hair in layers and running the rake through right up to under the ears. You do need to thin the shawl out to give her shape between the head and butt otherwise it gets too thick and you cant see if they have neck or not and they end of looking like a big blob of hair. This is my young girl debuting in the showring this saturday, her first show trim and shape, yes there is a tail there also but from this picture you can see what sort of shape you are aiming for. Neck is stripped but still a long shawl, head coat trimmed and butt trimmed and feet rounded off.  Yes we show in long coat here in Australia but you do have to do some limited shaping of them otherwise they look like big shaggy blobs. Glad your trying and you will get better with the more you do, I always say if you make a mistake dont worry it will grow back, you have to get in their and try or you never will know how too I started with a good picture of a dog that I like the way it was shaped then tried to emulate that and as the years went by you get better and better in how you want your oes presented in the ring. So good for you and the more you do the more experienced you become, but you do have to get in their and give it a go, glad you are Piccys needed next time she is done up for a show. |
She looks stunning! Of course all of your dogs do All the best for her debut  I have serious coat envy. Cuatro is now 9 months and is putting his paw out there this weekend for his first show. |
| Best wishes to both of the debutantes this weekend!!! Have fun and I know both Babs and Cuatro (and human Mim) will have plenty to say about your debuts!! |
| Lisa, Your girl looks beautiful !!! I love them shown long and shaggy, I think that is the way they are intended to be If you looked at the March issue of the OESCA Times the dogs in there looked like they belonged on the lawn of Disney Land, they were sculpted like topiarys Not all of them, but some. I understand the stripping and trimming so they don't look like big blobs of hair, but in this country why must we trim them like a Bonsai tree ??? Zoey got that issue off the counter, ripped it to shreds then peed on it, I thought it was fitting |
loried wrote: Zoey got that issue off the counter, ripped it to shreds then peed on it, I thought it was fitting |
| Bravo, Lisa After I have seen here what amaizing job OES owners do, I think that some professional groomers should put dark glasses and quietly disappear into a shady corner I, too, started from looking at the pictures, but I have never managed to keep the shape before I used your advice. This time I thinned back side of the hind legs. Together with this furry ball around the rump it gave the square look for the body which was very important since at the previous shows he was described as having too long body. Nothing like that this time! What can do a right hairdo! Thank you very much for this particular advice. I was thinking about thinning the neck but didn't risk because he has a light coat and I though that if I make it shorter like on the back and on the head, it would make the things worse. So I just brushed and brushed out as mush of the undercoat as possible. He had his shawl right down his paws but washing made it hanging down, so it looked much better. But I trimmed ears and behind them which also gave some border between the rounded head and the neck.I tried hairsprays before, good one don't give sticky feel, but in my case it still have never helped to keep the shape. I tried styling foam as well and only one good thing was that on the wet coat it helped brushing very well, like a conditioner. That is very true, Lisa, the more one tries the better it becomes. Now I will be more bold with scissors I have two dogs one of which I can use as a trial model. The only problem is that they have different tipe of coats. The old one has something like a ''Dulux dog'' - long with moderate undercoat, and her son has shorter hair with very thick and light undersoat. Some individual approach in our beauty parlors might be needed ?:) Thank you for your time, Lisa, which you put in here sharing your experience. Hope your debutant has done well today. |
loried wrote: Zoey got that issue off the counter, ripped it to shreds then peed on it, I thought it was fitting Babette and Mim did well, two show virgins very proud of both the girls. Babette was so relaxed at her first show, being inside and with 1000 plus all breeds there and cramped in space she took that all in her stride. Mim was great too, syd was entered but just for babs first time left him at home to play mother hen to both the girls. Babs got res.bitch CC and mim did a great job for her first show handle as well  . A few things like taking advantage of the whole ring with the triangle and first time she stacked babs back legs out too far and needs to gait her a bit faster around the ring, they will both get there as they learn and grow together as they have more under their belts together, but for both there first time together in the ring they both did great Very proud of the two girls. No piccys yesterday was busy showing Mim how to get babs done up for the showring and when they went in guiding them both as to when they needed to re-enter the ring again and for me re-fluffing and guiding both of them. I was so clucky and proud of both the show virgins, as they go along and get more experienced together they should be an awesome team. I feel like a proud mother hen after yesterday with both the girls. Mim looked very professional in her lovely suit to handle babs and a good de-fluffing from me for mim before both the girls entered the ring for their first time.  WELL DONE MIM AND BABETTE.  Thanks Mim you did great for the first time ever showing a dog.  How did Cuatro go waiting for news on the debut there, we are a dayad of you lot. |
| Sad about the lack of pictures, but a BIG CONGRATS to BABS and MIM!!!! |
| Way to go Mim and Beautiful Babs! Lisa, thanks for asking about Cuatro. He got a 4 point major...Winners dog, Puppy Best of Breed, Best of Winners, and Best of Opposite Sex. I couldn't handle him today since I had back surgery 4 weeks ago so my debut as a handler will be later  So, I would say all debutantes did well |
| Thanks Lisa!! Babs did much better than me. I was a nervous nelly and mucked up her stack. But we both had fun and are back next Sunday to have another go. PS despite Lisa's excellent attentions with the lint brush I'm still getting lovely long grey hairs off my black suit. |
| Well done Cuatro very exciting for your babies first show. Now you are going to have to post when it is your turn to handle cuatro. Mim loved the black suit but now you know why I've gone to the grey colours in the ring I use to wear black or navy and de-hairing the suits well let's put it this way the dry cleaner was not a happy chappy. |
| I have NO sympathy for the dry cleaner. I wear polar fleece trackie pants to agility as its outdoors at night. Ever tried getting a mix of sheepie, dalmo and siamese cat hair off polar fleece, not to mention I have long hair too. |
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