Potty issues

We just got our 3 year old sheepie, Luna, about a week ago. She is supposed to be house trained and most of the time she does very well. She has had a few "accidents" though. All in the same spot in our kitchen, three pees and one poop in the last week. The most difficult hurdle I think we have is that she doesn't "ask" to go out by barking or anything like that. Her breeder told me she gets antsy but I guess I just have to learn her body language better. I think I am getting there because tonight she was acting antsy so I got up to bring her out but I missed it by like 5 seconds! My question is this: Could this be only because she is in a new environment and still needs adjusting? It doesn't make me love her any less and like I said she's normally good about it but I'd like to curb this behavior! Is there a way I could teach her to "tell" me she has to go?
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My OES Tiggy is like that. My dalmo bashes at the door to go out but Tiggy just walked to the door looked at us and then walked away and peed on the floor. My DH was especially bad he never noticed her at the door.
So I taught Tiggy to ring a bell that hangs from the door handle. Beware it can backfire. She gets naughty and rings the bell just to get me to pay her some attention sometimes.
And I've had to crate her at night or she waits till I've turned the bedroom light out and rings the bell then she just goes outside for a wander and comes back in again. She'll also do that around 1.30am if she can get to the bells. :evil:
But for during waking hours its fantastic, we've had NO accidents since she learnt the door bell method.
Baloo will go to the door and paw at it. Same to come in. But we didn't get Lily till they were 2 and she'd not do that to let us know she wants out. She'd just get antsy like you mentioned... she'd walk to the door and look back, but if were in another room that was difficult. We had to just learn her body language too. We figured out she has a special "pee pee dance" where she will hop up and go to the door, if no one comes she will come to us and stare 8O at us then does a little 'hophophop' with her front legs. It's very cute... but when she gets to that hop-peepee dance stage you know you better move quick as she needs to GO NOW.

Now that she's been with us for a year she's gotten used to the routine, she still does the same peepee dance, but less and less as we also know when her times to have to go are. (for instance.. Lily likes to potty before breakfast. Baloo would rather eat first and potty AFTER)

Keep working with Luna and it will all get figured out. :wink:
I think a lot of it is body language. We got Wendel when he was 3.5 from my breeder. My breeder is retired, so Wendel and the other dogs went out all the time, 7 or 8 times a day for potty or play.

My girl will bark and stomp her feet when she wants to go out. Wendel will just whine. Gets. Right. In. Your. Face. And. WHINES 8O 8O 8O
Many are quite subtle. I have several dogs who just walk to the door, stand there and look back at us. (Chewie, Riley, Maggie)
Tazz does the "I gotta go potty" dance - hilarioius min pin.
Simon whines and paces from us to the door, and back and back.....foster Harley stands, and sometimes gives a "woof".

You are correct - dogs are not automatically potty trained in every house - especially if they only have been in one home most of their lives. It is an acquired skill to automatically transfer that skill to every house they are in.

Any new dog in my home is treated like they aren't trained (close doors, use gates, keep them in eye sight and really watch them) Watching them gets you to learn what signs they show that they need to go. Then you can prevent any potties (hopefully) and get off to a real good start. They get sent out with the rest to potty (a back door opens right into a fenced dog yard) and they learn really quickly.
Thank you for the replies. The next hurdle we will have to cross is not going on the deck. The back door opens to our deck and then down the stairs to the fenced in back yard. She thinks once she's outside she can go on the deck so I think I am going to get a gate and bring her down to the yard and gate the deck until she goes. She won't go when I take her out on the leash, she just stands there and looks at me lol. As I said, I know this is an adjustment for her so I'm just being patient and right now every time she makes a sudden movement I take her outside lol.
Gating the deck would be a good idea - and it shouldn't have to be forever.

If you go out w/ her and immediately go to the spot in the yard you prefer, will she stay w/ you? and not run back to the deck? It usually is helpful to stay out there with them, especially if you are hoping to have them go potty in one specific area.

My basset who I got as a 6 yr old was from Chicago. Very apparent he had been a city dog! The 1st time I took him out the door to potty (before we had made the fenced dog yard) he went down the sidewalk and peed w/ one foot on and one foot off the edge.....and we have ACRES to pee on! It took a little retraining to convince him (bassets are stubborn) to use the yard, not the bit of grass on the edge of the sidewalk....
That is the only pavement/hard surface we have - as we are on a farm with a gravel driveway, live on a gravel road - talk about a dog having to adjust! :)

If they go out the front (not into the dog yard), Chewie chooses to run in to the edge of the farm field to go. Ollie, our 1st OES did the same thing. I love that - no poop to pick up!
I was going down there with her but she wouldn't stay with me. She would stand there for a minute and run back up onto the deck lol. I guess I'll have to pull out all the stops and install a gate and go down there with her. I also need to find a treat that she will actually be excited over because I tried milk bones and she just sniffed it and looked at me like I was stupid haha.
I took Tiggy out on lead to potty, until she learned. Otherwise she wandered around and got distracted, she'd check out the garden, make sure no cats were in her yard, sniff the pots then come inside and wee. 8O
So I stood still like a boring tree and just held her lead then handed out her favorite dog biscuit and lots of praise after she pottied.
If you've only had her a week or so I wouldn't worry too much about accidents. A new environment will bring issues. She'll get it soon.

The best advice I got for our rescue was, as far as house breaking goes, forget chronological age and start counting from the day he/she arrives. Thus our year and a half Rudy is being "housebroken" as if he were four months old. We take him out constantly and praise him each time he gets it right. (Mind you, he was a stray with few skills, etc so this really is like starting with a puppy.)

I'd keep taking her out frequently for now. That may take care of the opportunity for accidents.

Good luck to you. Ours still has a favourite spot to skulk off and poop...sadly, it's next to the fireplace in the living room.
We've been lucky that her spot is in the kitchen and not on our carpeting. She seems to prefer hard surfaces over soft ones ie hard floor and not carpet and deck as opposed to grass.
Guinness had this problem when she was going back and forth to my mother`s house. For some reason she would always do her business in the same spot. What we did was train her using a set of bells that hung at the door and placed a piece of furniture over the pee spot for a month. Now she does not do that any more and the patio table is not in the middle of the hallway.

Daina
Hi, I have a 5.5 month old male oes and we have a problem with his (hide a poop) he rings the bell to go outside and goes all of the time but if you go into an area that sees les trafic you will probably find poop somewhere. He goes outside but still manages to have a little extra hidden somewhere. I am constantly cleaning up. Any suggestions. He is very hard headed.
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