Need help/advice for unexpected heat cycle & randy boy
So now we’re in a doggie dilemma. Even though Rebecca supposedly isn’t able to get pregnant (after many natural & surgical attempts), and Frank is now terrified to even go near her since he now has scabs from his advances, I’m worried that either a) she’s going to get pregnant in her new calm non-kennel environment or b) she will have a false pregnancy which will cause her much distress. Most vets won’t spay during heat season because there is so much blood gorged in reproductive organs which would mean a lot of blood loss on the operating table. Our options are either a) to be diligent in keeping them separated which stinks because she’s not even settled in yet b) neuter Frank immediately which opts out any potential showing activity (which I am still not sure if I want to let go of yet) c) send her back down to kennel to live (3.5 hours away) with the breeder for a couple of weeks while this passes, which I am not sure what kind of effect that will have on her going back and forth. She's very sweet and somewhat timid. Any input would be much appreciated of what you guys think about this. I already had my panic call to the breeder so getting mad at her for not being more accurate with the cycle, is mute at this point. Just trying to think about what's best for both of the dogs. Also, does anyone know as soon as her heat cycle is finished can I get her spayed to eliminate any false pregnancies or do the vets have to wait and see if her reproductive organs are all settled down? I have a regular vet appointment scheduled for her next Tuesday but that's a long time away. Ugh, what timing!! |
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| Wow, that's tough.
I am sure others will chime in, but I can only say keep them apart...or keep one on a leash with you at all times. Maybe try having him at daycare for the day, while she gets use to you, and all that. Keep a garment on her...altho this won't prevent him from getting to her 100%...but it will help keep the bleeding from dripping all over the place. She won't be receptive until around the 10-12thday. So you only have a few real worrisome days...of them actually mating. If she moves her tail then stands keep him far far away. 
Good luck. |
| I just wanted to say, I almost adopted a Keeshond from a breeder, who was attemping to breed her. Anyways, she assumed the dog was sterile, so I took her, and was to spay her. Anyways, she didn't fit with our family, she loved being a kennel dog. Turns out she did get pregnant, right after I returned her...not sure if she was pregnant at my house...anyways it can happen...it was her only litter.
A heat cycle last up to 3 weeks (of bleeding), the actual time of getting pregnant is approx 3-4 days...mid cycle...if I remember correctly. |
| Is there a friend you could leave Frank with? I have Daisy and 3 boys. When Daisy went into season we had to get her out of the house because the boys would not leave her alone. We are lucky to have a place up north to take her, she was usually there for several weeks. We tried putting her in the bedroom at night, she would cry and the boys would howl and pace. The seasonals only work for the mess, they are not effective for much else. Poor Rebecca, I can understand your reluctance to have her stay elsewhere. |
I have went throught 2 heat cycles with Annabelle and Jack living under the same roof. We always kept Annie in pants and would use a pantyliner because she was a heavy bleeder for most of the 3 weeks, only tapering off at the end. The first week of her heat cycle, Jack, is fairly normal. I could keep Jack and Annabelle in the same room if either CJ or I were in the room. They would play, maybe a little rougher than normal, mostly that was coming from Annabelle. Going into the 2nd week of the heat cycle, Jack got to the point where he had a one track mind for Annie and would have done anything to get to her. At that point, we would put Jack in a crate for 2-3 hours and then switch and put Annie in the crate for the 2-3 hours. (Someone is always at home here, so it works a lot easier.) That continued for the remainder of the 2 weeks. I should say it did get to the point in those 2 weeks, that Jack was very hyper and would not listen to a single command. He was the opposite of his normal self. I called the vet during her 1st heat cycle and asked if he would return to normal after Annie got through her cycle.  I should also say that the neighbors probably thought we adopted a bloodhound, because Jack would HOWL, and howl, and howl. It was hilarious the few hours to hear this high pitch, long drawn out howls.....after that we had to keep telling ourselves it will only last a few more weeks. LOL
I forgot to say that we planned on Annabelle sleeping in the crate for the night, but with his howls, we ended up letting Jack sleep in the crate.....on the other side of the house. 
Anyway, this is how we took care of the fun that you are going through now.  I can laugh, now that Jack and Annie are fixed. LOL
Good luck and keep your sanity, 
Stormi and co. |
| You must be very careful, because (if I recall correctly... ) Soon she will start offering herself to Frank. In our case, even with Lennon neutered and most of his male instincts reduced, he will still mount her when when she was in heat... It was a surprise for us that Lennon did that (Danita almost passed out ) when we saw them.
Rebecca will be in a bad mood too, so you must be very careful with her, she will also roughplay with Frank a lot and may be prone to biting. A false pregancy was no big deal for us (Well.... it was, because she looked stressed  ) but nothing that extra care for her will not cure. If she gets "pregnant", make sure she can nurture an inanimated object, give her extra hugs and soon she will come back to herself.
Good Luck! |
| All this is making me happy I don't have a boy sheepie....lol...
I hope it all goes well though Verve.... |
| We spay dogs all the time that are in heat. But you are correct when you say there is more bleeding, but it can be done.
The only reason I would say your vet would not go ahead and spay her , is if she is overweight, or if her blood work is not normal. When I say overweight I mean really heavy!! It sometimes may cost a little more just because it's more complicated than a normal spay. I'm sure she will do fine. Good luck!! |
| Okay, well I started the heavy drinking and we're not even near the highlight yet of this cycle! I don't know how breeders go through this regularly. So far it's going okay keeping them separated, but now that you guys are telling me about the howling I can't wait! It's only a lot of whimpering right now. The garment is helping a little, at least I feel like I can feed and let them out together right now.
I think Frank must think that I brought this girl home just for him and now I'm torturing him. Poor guy and all those teenage hormones! I'll keep you posted on when he starts tearing down the walls to get to her. |
| LOL Poor Frank! LOL |
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