Big Dog...discrimination!!!!!!!
HOWEVER~~~according to the news reports, "the animal must be 'smallish' and fit in a carrier under the seat""~~~  I find this distrubing...  ...I know Heart (well, maybe Pearl) would be fine, sitting next to me, strapped in, watching the clouds go by. |
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| Most airlines already do this, and they do it for free or for $25 depending on their carry-on baggage rules. |
| ^^ What?! what have I been traveling on then. I feel like I've been screwed. That's cool.  I always paid for my 6lb maltese to travel with us (sw, continental and american). It was usually $60-80, I believe ...the last time may have been even more.eta: yeah, on this thread (viewtopic.php?t=20864), I wrote it cost 90 for my maltese. |
| Baloo would have a BLAST!!! He loves to sit in the seat like an upright and look out the windows. Lily... she'd end up on the floor-- sprawled out & snoring. |
| I personally feel this is a segment of the market that airlines are missing out on. From my recent experience as an empty nester, with my dog becoming my surrogate child, I am exposed to all these dog owners who are willing to spend on their dogs. Children are expensive. Many of these dog owners with nice incomes and no children have lots of money to spend on a plane ticket for their dog to sit with them. They could rob me blind and I would still stupidly pay big bucks to fly Harry out to California with me to visit Brian.  |
Joahaeyo wrote: ^^ What?! what have I been traveling on then. I feel like I've been screwed. That's cool. I always paid for my 6lb maltese to travel with us (sw, continental and american). It was usually $60-80, I believe ...the last time may have been even more.eta: yeah, on this thread (viewtopic.php?t=20864), I wrote it cost 90 for my maltese. Yeah, it usually costs my friend between $150-$250 to fly her French Bulldog in from New York to Michigan in the cabin. I remember her complaining the last time that her ticket cost as much as the dog's! I understand the space issue with a larger dog but I'd happily pay for a couple of extra seats to keep Owen next to me. |
| Hey, it's Southwest. I'd expect cheaper fares for them, The size limit is hypocritical, guide and service dogs are allowed to fly with their companion...they just have to be able to curl up under the seat, no sitting on upholstery. |
SheepieBoss wrote: The size limit is hypocritical, ...they just have to be able to curl up under the seat, no sitting on upholstery. Well then Harry is good to go.  Val can testify to the ticket agent that Harry curls up into a little ball when we are on the highway. He doesn't like the noise and I am sure it would be the same with an airplane. |
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TOO BAD ...YOU can't attest to the same thing with Heart...  maybe I can just put her in the overhead luggage compartment...I know she will love it~~~~ her own personal cave!!!!!!  |
| Small dogs have always flown in carriers that are the size of carry ones for a fee. The price has been going up dramatically, so I think the Frontier ad is touting a lower price, not the fact that dogs get to fly. I checked with Lisa - she flew with her min pin Spike from NY to MN last about a year ago - and she got him in free as her carry on. Said she had to do "some finagling". Did this on NWA and Delta. However my BIL wanted to get a Chih pup while home last simmer, but it cost a lot - I think over $100 from MN to Sante Fe (on southwest?) and ended up not getting the pup. |
SheepieBoss wrote: they just have to be able to curl up under the seat, no sitting on upholstery. OMG have you seen that upolstery!  I wouldn't want my dog on it. I've often thought of using a seatcover when flying. |
| Just out of curiosity... what is the best way to fly with your sheepdog? Are there any options that are reasonably economical? I'll be making quite a few 1-hour flights over the next few years to save myself the 8-hour drive. I'd rather bring the sheepdog to meet my family than board him if possible. Many people around here who travel with their dogs often? Is 8 hours too long? (assuming you stop for potty and water/food/exercise)? |
| Like anything else you do with your dog - the more you travel the more they get used to it. Harry is not a fan of the highway, as mentioned earlier, but he has learned to deal with it because it takes him to all of his fun adventures. Even the long traveling is something they get used to and learn the routine. I stop at about the first hour at a rest stop to give him a chance to realize this is a longer trip and lets take a potty break. Then whenever I stop to get gas or go to the bathroom he gets a break too. A chance to stretch his legs and get a drink. I try to keep him hydrated. He has been on two over eight hour trips and a couple of short trips. We recently went on a three hour trip out of town. He went right to sleep in the car. When we arrived he was his usual out of control self at the agility trial. Then when we got to the hotel room he did not hesitate to eat his dinner. Then he proceeded to get silly in the room as he frequently does after dinner. He gave me all of his sits to go in and out of the door just like home and even played with a new toy in the hotel room. He would not have done any of these things if he was upset with the traveling. |
Rocka wrote: Just out of curiosity... what is the best way to fly with your sheepdog? Are there any options that are reasonably economical? I'll be making quite a few 1-hour flights over the next few years to save myself the 8-hour drive. I'd rather bring the sheepdog to meet my family than board him if possible. Many people around here who travel with their dogs often? Is 8 hours too long? (assuming you stop for potty and water/food/exercise)? We drive with our dogs up the Fairbanks (7-9 hours depending on road conditions) pretty routinely. We toss their dog beds into the back seat, and they basically just go to sleep. We stop maybe 2-4 times for potty breaks (theirs and ours! ) and to give them water.This is Eggbert's favorite long road-trip position:  |
That is an adorable pic of Eggbert!! ( i love to say his name  eggbert eggbert eggbert) We have traveled on long trips by car many times with Baloo. Less often with Lily -- just because Scott's been deployed nearly all the time since she's been here so I've traveled less. They LOVE riding in the car. Short or long trips. The go for short trips several times a week.... anywhere from a quick jaunt to the store or an hour to the good dog park near Syracuse, or to trails we hike, or friends we visit. Baloo loves long trips too. The longest we've done with him is 11 hours. We stop frequently (I can't sit still that long. Geesh) and he gets to run & chase balls (or the kids) at the places we stop. We rest for a while, walk around, eat & drink. People pet him. He loves it. He has never acted out on long trips. Lily sleeps more in the car than Boo. He sits and watches out the windows for very very long stretches. 30 mins in and Lily's out cold! ZZzzzzz |
| I haven't found 8 hours to be too long. You just have to stop and walk around a bit, some water, no food......unless you are a crazed Newfoundland who was suppost to take tranqs via hotdog and ended up eating the full pound of hotdog and spitting out the tranqs. Turned out he LOVED rides and didn't want to miss a thing. Longer trips, we'd do at night so the dogs would be more likely to sleep......and my DH. I've always been the night driver,  As for flying, never in the heat of the summer! Most airlines won't even take the dogs then. Ditto in subzero temps. |
| I thought you were always able to fly your pet in cabin if it fit under the seat???? Of course, OES cannot usually fit under the seat...But there is a new airline Pet Airline, that flys dogs in cabin for the same as we are paying to fly them in cargo. If You fly your pet, you should look into this airline. I know they fly out of a small airport near me on Long Island and fly to some major cities...Boston, LA. Washington DC, Denver, Miami...I forget the rest but anyone thinking of flying their dog and having to pay the money anyway, might ant to look into this airline.. |
Ashley wrote: I thought you were always able to fly your pet in cabin if it fit under the seat???? Of course, OES cannot usually fit under the seat...But there is a new airline Pet Airline, that flys dogs in cabin for the same as we are paying to fly them in cargo. If You fly your pet, you should look into this airline. I know they fly out of a small airport near me on Long Island and fly to some major cities...Boston, LA. Washington DC, Denver, Miami...I forget the rest but anyone thinking of flying their dog and having to pay the money anyway, might ant to look into this airline.. http://petairways.com/content/where-we-fly I always got the impression from the web site that it was NYC (as in LaGuardia or JFK). It never occurred to me that it was somewhere else. I'm glad you pointed that out. |
| They can definitely do long trips. Most all dogs do really well. Personally, I think an 8 hour car trip is easier on them then all the loading and stress involved in a flight, even if it is just 1 hour of actual airtime. In all my years and all my dogs, I've only had one with car issues, and it was car sickness. The rest just hang out and think it is a good time with their family |
| I'd prefer to not fly them at all, but we had to fly Rudy, and he was cargo (heated and pressurized) and his airfare was.....(this is not for the faint of heart)....twelve hundred dollars from Ft. Lauderdale to Minneapolis. He had the giant kennel (pony sized) and I KNOW they took advantage of us in that charge. But hey, he's here. And we love him. We just try really hard not to think about what we spent...ever. |
| whoa, good thing it's the rudy. makes it easier to forget that nonsense. you don't think he ordered crate service do you? maybe barbecued alligator. |
| ^^^^^^^^^ He would've ordered snow if he knew about it back then. I would love to think I could take Tiggy on a plane with me but it'd be a nightmare. She would think for sure that she had a plane full of captive humans to love on.  She'd be climbing in laps and jumping on people all over. |
| My guys go for days (literally) in the car on trips. It took us 4 days to get back from Mexico City. And with a CAT too! She has become the best traveler...........lol my guys just get in and go to sleep............. when i stop for gas we all get bathroom breaks. They each have their crates with a water bucket which i fill up with ice at gas stations. |
| There is a new airline called Pet Airline. They charge about the same for flying your dog and the dog gets to fly in the cabin with staff! Humans are not allowed on the plane. Just dogs and a "stewardess" just for them. They fly out of several major cities so far. I never used them yet but if I had to, I would definately look into them. |
Ashley wrote: I thought you were always able to fly your pet in cabin if it fit under the seat???? Of course, OES cannot usually fit under the seat... you'd be surprised!! London and Tony both fit under the seat comfortably.. London has a weird thing of sleeping under small chairs, tables, etc -so it wasnt a problem. I fly them both from Rochester, NY to Los Angeles three times a year. They both stay still for 4 hours before rotating to the other side. Both my husband and I are deaf and while both dogs do provide us service- they are not "certified" service dogs. Few years after flying with the dogs, I learned that ADA has a "no question asked" policy- it's against the law for anyone to question someone's disability - which is probably why the airlines never question us about the dogs. |
| Unfortunately, because of some dog show people (I actually saw a prof handler claim to have a disability with her Akita) the Airlines are now going to be requiring some letters from physicians..at least some of the airlines are. This woman made me SO ANGRY.. that the rest of us flying from Westminster had our dogs in 'the hold', and she was smiling and winking and telling everyone that all she did was buy a vest online and tell the airlines it was a service dog and they HAD to take him onboard. It isn't fair to the rest of us who pay 200-300 each way and she got away with that. i've never respected her since and she lives in Colorado. |
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