Help with Successfully Planting Roses!
My questions is... are they really hard to grow and maintain? My dad would always try to grow some rose bushes and was never successful. I don't know if it had to do with lack of fertilizer, wrong spot in the yard, or not properly pruning the buds. Does anyone have roses? Any tips on how to successfully grow them? Or should I just stick with an easier flower? |
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| Great questions!!! I want to know too. |
| Hmmm, I know my dad spends a lot of time 'tending' to his roses, but we just threw a couple in the ground a couple of years ago and they're just growing like crazy. And we only prune them at the end of the season. So I have no idea. Maybe just luck? |
| topiary roses?? These are real tricky for cold climates since the graft is up in the air. For winter they have to be wrapped or the plant partially unearth, tipped over into a trench and covered over. You could grow them in containers but would need to put that container in a deep freeze proof area over winter. Other than that, they are just a rose grafted onto a rose.....cane. Roses really don't have "stems" in the traditional sense of the word. Culture during the growing season is no different than a regular rose......just make sure you don't get suckers coming up from the ground or underneath the graft. Topiaries come with mini roses.... mini only in flower size, not overall bush size.......or traditional roses. The size of the "standard" (stem) will give you a clue.....shorter for minis though I think that's wrong...but they don't ask me. |
| I got one of the tree roses a 2 years ago and planted it close to the hose for protection from the wind. Well the top part died the first year, but lucky me I never got around to taking it out of the ground. Last spring a little green started to come up from the base and this year I am already seeing green. I am sure the grow is from the original base that the graft was put on. I think it will end up just a regular rose in the long run. I have no problem with the regular roses but I agree that the tree types are harder than your run of the mill roses. Don't forget to deadhead to keep the blooms coming. |
I'll be interested in what the root stock rose will be. I fear either Dr. Huey, a long caned "climber" that flowers once in the spring with so-so dull red blooms........or Rosa multiflora, a "bush" or long stemmed climber with 5-9 pale pink petals and beautiful yellow stamens. If not one of these.....well, you'll find out. Remember, rose stock is selected for its vigorous growth. So much for the contained tree rose, you'll likely have a long caned (10') wild child. That could be fun.  |
| I consider myself a rose pro. lol At our old house my neighbor who was a horticulturalist used to call me Martha Stewart. I could grow roses and she couldn't. Thats about the only plant I have at this house. Mine always seem to do the best in the worst soil around. I have always planted them in really gravelly areas. Roses like to have dry feet. Never water them in the evening they will mold or black spot. I believe they need at least 6 hours of sunlight. Buy the ones that say they are pest and mold resistant. The hardier the better. I'm hoping it stops raining today so I can go out and start trimming back. I was surprised how well mine survived the winter this year. I have always planted roses hoping the dogs wouldn't eat them because of the thorns. Doesn't always help. pm me if you have any questions I'll post pics when the start to bloom Lisa and Frankie |
My husband had a nice rose garden: Peggy Lee, St Josephs Coat, stuff like that. It got peed to death and we took it out  |
| I had several hundred roses here but Fox the Great Pyr took exception to his tail catching on the bushes so started a one dog campagin to remove the nasty plants! Amazing what a determined dog can do! Unfortunately he taught the other Pyrs what fun digging was, but they'd generally leave the plant in place, Fox would unearth the offender, "There take that!!" I was also tired of the repacking the plants and especially the watering, living in a desert the water requirements were tremendous. We don't have access to flood irrigation and it was very taxing on our wells. On the plus side, black spot was only a problem on the minis so I quit those. Powdery mildew was a problem for certain varieties so they got shovel pruned. I still have a few survivors, mostly shrub varieties but the whole garden has gone to small ornamental trees now. |
| LOL We had a rose hedge. The front side was completely white with pyr hair. There tails got stuck on the thorns, and yes Auggie would chew them down. Thats when I figured out my theory on dogs not eating the thorns went to heck. Lisa and Frankie |
  I knew I had a problem when a rose bush went by the front window......attached to a dog's tail. Bet the hedge was good for scratching.  "Phew, I'm shedding, this really helps." |
| What is your soild type? I am on heavy clay which roses love, they stay moist and have tonnes of nutrients natrually. + our weather here in the UK doesn't really do one extreme or another. You can topdress your soil every spring with a good thick layer of BS - yes it is what you think. One good way to find out how to grow them locally is to vist some open gardens that grow roses and follow their tips. |
| Oh, the fun I could have in UK climate! Imagine not having to worry about frying plants in extreme UV light or drying winds. The soils would actually have organic matter for more than a week. Irrigation would be natural, not a warren of pipes, hoses, tubing and emitters. Throwing BS around the garden wouldn't bring on plant burn from the salts because of the natural moist conditions. No wonder the UK taught the rest of us to garden.......with a big tip of the hat to France and Italy too. Getting back to topiary rose question: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Roses-732/maintaining-topiary-rose-tree-1.htm |
| Both homes that I have had roses have been very poor soil or gravel.. OUr house now was built on a gravel hill. I weeded and dead headed the rose bushes today they look really good this year. They already have little buds on them. I can't believe it for April in Michigan. Alittle miracle grow and We'll be set for awhile. Lisa and Frankie |
| I've just put roses in my garden as well. I've always kept the miniature ones in pots with varying degrees of success. But I've got a full sized one called "Rock and Roll" that seems to like where I've planted it, as its budding and doing very well. I have another called Mr. Lincoln that still needs to be put in the ground. All my bushes are getting those tiny little green bugs on them. I bought something to spray on the bugs, but its not doing much to help. Any suggestions? |
Darth Snuggle wrote: I've just put roses in my garden as well. I've always kept the miniature ones in pots with varying degrees of success. But I've got a full sized one called "Rock and Roll" that seems to like where I've planted it, as its budding and doing very well. I have another called Mr. Lincoln that still needs to be put in the ground. All my bushes are getting those tiny little green bugs on them. I bought something to spray on the bugs, but its not doing much to help. Any suggestions? Those sound like aphids to me. Lady bugs will eat those little nuisances. The funny thing is, for administrative assistances day/secretaries day, all the ladies in my department got these pansies from our doctors. They were CRAWLING with aphids, yuck! I planted them in my backyard and went to inspect them the next day and all the aphids were gone. Then again, I have a HUGE population of lady bugs (as noted in my thread entitled how to eliminate a lady bug infestation). |
| Aphids if you don't have a healthy crop of predators such as LadyBugs (LadyBirds) then a safe option is soapy water in a spray bottle to wash them off, and give them a good squishing in your fingers You don't really want to use any chemicals that effect the food chain. |
| Thats what I use. You can use dish soap water and a little vegetable oil in a spray bottle. It really does work. Lisa and Frankie |
| Mr. Lincoln is one of my fav reds! Green bugs, aka aphids. First, since they congregate on the top, is first squish them with my fingers, it's so rewarding to wipe out several dozen with one squish. Second since they are soft bodied (no shells) they will fall to soapy water. Make up a solution, about 1T per gallon of water and spray them. The soap dissolves their soft sides. Unless I'm completely overrun with them I leave them for the lady bugs.........seems we've had an outbreak of those guys elsewhere here. The larvae of lady bugs (yeah, lady beetles) look like little black and red dragons. Kinda cool to see them clean up a problem. Since aphids are generally pretty easy to kill: soap, pesticidal soap, horticultural oil.....there's no need for more toxic sprays. Just realize you probably won't have totally pest free plants, but that's OK. They won't be pest free with the deadly toxins, but you will have spent more $$$$ and contaminated your yard. Aphids are by far a cooler weather pest. As summer comes, they aphids slow down in favor of something else, like spider mites. Just can't win. |
When it comes to traditional roses, I'm going to just have to live vicariously though all of you, I'm afraid. The only kind that can survive here, are wild (Sitka) roses. We have tons of those, although I cant in all honesty say I "grew" them...they pretty much grow themselves What I would like to learn though, is how to properly trim them. Right now, the snow has melted back enough for me to get to them, and there are no leaves yet, so is this when I should be pruning?  Or should I have done it in the fall? |
| Sitka rose is a Rosa rugosa and best pruned (if needed) after flowering and then more to remove old canes leaving younger ones. BTW, rugosas don't like to be sprayed with chemicals so hopefully yours are pretty "clean." Quote: Pruning Rosa Rugosa is the easiest of all rose pruning garden chores. Pruning Wild Roses such as Rugosa bushes means practically no pruning at all. After all Wild Rose bushes survived and bloomed for thousands of years with no pruning or rose care at all. The reason you would want to prune Rugosa bushes is to make them more attractive in your garden. They will propably bloom better also. Wild Roses such as Rugosas can be left for three to five years with almost no pruning other than removing spent blooms. However, all dead or damaged branches should be removed each year, or whenever you find damaged or dead canes, usualy late winter or early spring. Occasionally, an old cane can be removed at the base to promote new flowering canes, or to prevent the rose bush to become over crowded or invasive. |
| Actually roses do well in Alaska.......for one year. The real crazies plant them as soon as they can get them into the ground and then cover them back up until warmer weather arrives. The the long days allows for 2 maybe 3 bloomings before cold weather sets in. Trying to overwinter them is tough, but possible. So in effect, the roses are nothing more than giant petunias or other annuals. |
SheepieBoss wrote: Actually roses do well in Alaska.......for one year. The real crazies plant them as soon as they can get them into the ground and then cover them back up until warmer weather arrives. The the long days allows for 2 maybe 3 bloomings before cold weather sets in. Trying to overwinter them is tough, but possible. So in effect, the roses are nothing more than giant petunias or other annuals. I have VERY occasionally seen them in people's yards down in Anchorage, and I've wondered how they managed it!  ...but the only folks I know who have had much success with them have them planted in containers, which they bring inside (or at least into a greenhouse) in winter.There are a number of plants that really love our loooong summer days. Most famously: cabbage I always plant some of the pretty ornamental ones in our yard. They remind me of the plant in "Little Shop of Horrors"  |
| how about plant a bed of roses small enough to fit in a green house or cloche, and come the colder climes plonk the greenhouse/cloche over the roses, oh and fix it down, and provide gentle heat through the winter. Extreme - but just how much do you want thos roses |
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