Brush after the bath or before?
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| Both actually. The dog should always be fully brushed out, to the skin, before a bath because if there is any matting at all, or even just crossed hairs, it can create a nightmare when wet.
Then it is best to blow dry and fully groom the dog afterwards as well.
With a puppy this shouldn't take too long, with a grown OES in full coat it takes about 4 hours. |
| I agree...do the prep work before the bath...get out any matting. You can run into big trouble with matts if not brushed and combed prior to bathing. We often will brush them out in the tub with the shampoo scrubbed in and then again when the conditioner is applied. But you might not want to get into that if you are planning on showing the dog....as it may damage the hair. For pet grooming it generally accepted. After the bath, brush backwards against the grain of the hair and blow it dry at the same time. Any matts that are still present will show immediately. Also by brushing and blowing backwards the hair will be all FLUFFY and sticking out. It looks really cute. |
tlcdoggrooming wrote: We often will brush them out in the tub with the shampoo scrubbed in and then again when the conditioner is applied. But you might not want to get into that if you are planning on showing the dog....as it may damage the hair. Nah, he'll just be a pet, not a show dog. Thank you both for the help!  |
| After the brushng then the bathing before the last brushing; her is what helps me maybe it's just mental who knows. I use a leave in conditioner during the bath as a final step not to much though or the hair won't dry well. next I sprinkle a 50/50 mixture of corn starch and baby powder all over the dog it doesn't matter how much it going to fall off any way. Then I set up a dryer by proping it under a chair cushion or between the outdoor garbage can lid if I'm outside anything that will direct the air. I let the air blow on the dog while I brush it seems to help detangle while you brush. Try this also for before the bath, an old hand at showing and a sheepdog vetran gave me this trick; mix 1 teaspoon of conditioner, any conditioner, in a spray bottle full of water and mist the dog where you are brushing it acts as a detangler. I take it a step furter and use the baby powder mixture also. |
| Flare,
Most of the important points have been covered but I will emphasize two points. Pre brush your dog so that he/she is totally matt/knot free. This should completed be no more than 24 hrs in advance of the bathing, ie day before bathing. Blow drying consists of not simply blowing the dog dry but simultaneaously brushing the hair out as well. By brushing and blow drying at the same time several things are accomplished, first being a faster more thorough drying. Few if any dryers will be able to part the wet hair all the way down to the skin without the help of brushing. Second brushing while drying will keep the coat from getting curly, a wave is permissible in Bobtail coats but it needs to be free of curl. Finally, the brushing will remove any minor knots that have inevitably formed during the bathing process. No matter how careful we are some knotting will occurs simply due to the fact that the coat is being extensively manipulated during bathing. If you choose to use a leave in conditioner be very very careful how much you use. Conditioners have enriching oils which coat the hair and substantially reduce drying effectiveness. My preference would be to use a rinse out conditioner, making sure it is rinsed out very very thoroughly and then rinsed out again and finally a third time to make sure the dog can be dried in a "reasonable" amount of time. Then if you feel the coat needs more conditioning spritz in the conditioner once dry or very close to dry. Personally I've never had the need to use a leave in conditioner on my Bobtails. As always, post or PM if you have further questions. Cheers Carl |
| Also I always leave the dryer on cool not hot |
| I agree with everyone, but just wanted to add that you may want to pay close attention to the amount and types of conditioners you use. Some seem to stay a little on the "sticky side" and they attract dirt. I'm with Carl, I don't use leave in conditioner.
Good luck! |
| Right now I only have the tearless puppy shampoo for him. Does the conditioner as well make a difference in their coats? If so I'll get the rinse out conditioner for him too. |
| If he is just going to be a pet not a show dog, then I say, YES! conditioner is awesome....lol....
Any brand of shampoo and conditioner will work, whatever you have on hand for yourself is good. I've found baby shampoo meant for humans strip out a lot of the natural oils making the skin dry and the coat dull... so I would avoid that.... As Carl said though if it is not rinsed out, it makes it take forever to get the coat dry. My personal favorite for shampoo and conditioner is Cowboy Magic, meant for horses, but absolutely amazing for dogs and people too!
Not a product I would recommend for a show prospect though as it does soften the coat. |
Willowsprite wrote: Any brand of shampoo and conditioner will work, whatever you have on hand for yourself is good. My personal favorite for shampoo and conditioner is Cowboy Magic, meant for horses, but absolutely amazing for dogs and people too!
Not a product I would recommend for a show prospect though as it does soften the coat. So people shampoo and conditioner is safe for puppies as well? I know we've used it on our adult dogs before when we didn't have the dog shampoo. I'll look into Cowboy Magic. As far as softening the coat..I would prefer it to be softer as I'll be cuddling with him quite a lot. And once he's old enough to not worry about accidents he'll probably be spoiled and sleeping on my bed.
Thanks for the help! |
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