Dryer HELP!
But the supplier has just called me to discuss the order, and says it cannot be used as a dryer and would not be suitable for my needs (showing). The supplier has very good reviews. Her reasoning was that I would get much better results with this http://www.dezynadog.co.uk/shop/product ... cts_id=891 But it's more expensive. Is she trying to sell me a more expensive product? What's your opinion? I'm wanting to get it this week as Ru has not had a bath since Christmas- BUT I don't want to be rushed into anything as obviously it's a huge purchase!!! |
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| It's hard to really say which is the better dryer... I can't seem to find any demographics on them from the site. Carl gave me A LOT of good advice when choosing my dryer and I'm very happy with my purchase. My Oster 309 is quiet, gives off a nice amount of warm air, and moves around well. I don't think you'd need the detachable hose, I just use the standing dryer and my grooming table. Here is the thread that has Carl's advice on getting a dryer for your OES http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26534 |
| I read that thread very carefully last week when researching. Obviously the dryers available here in the UK are sometimes a little different, but I researched the metro one with Carl's advice and chose that one. That's why I'm confused now!! |
Hint of Mischief wrote: I read that thread very carefully last week when researching. Obviously the dryers available here in the UK are sometimes a little different, but I researched the metro one with Carl's advice and chose that one. That's why I'm confused now!! Without seeing the demographics, my thought is part of it may be the detachable hose, may contribute to her thoughts on your purchase. But that is just a guess. I say, go with your gut. Did the rep say why the dryer is a better choice in her/his opinion? |
| I got the impression it was just a finishing dryer? |
| Finishing dryer? That's something I'm unfamiliar with... I'm not sure what the benefit is to have that for home grooming compared to a, I guess, standard standing dryer? Again, I think it may have to do with the hose... maybe it lends more to your ability to control the fluffiness of the coat since you can now control the air flow. My standing dryer will blast the fur straight but it is not a movable unit. So if that is the case, for showing, maybe the hose would be easier since you could help fluff the coat a bit more? Sorry, I don't think I'm helping you much here! |
| Cassie - is this the same one? http://www.pamperdpaws.com/index.php?cu ... ts_id=2128 In the text it says converts in seconds from a finishing dryer to forced air in seconds (using a kit sold separately) If it is like my stand dryer, it only has a wider opening at the blowing end, so gives a more gentle blowing (and that's for finishing) You need one with a narrower opening to blast water off the dog (if that is what you want to do). My stand dryer is old, and has no option of attaching something to narrow the flow (unless I get REALLY creative... - lol) My portable has a removable nozzle that makes the opening narrow for blasting, removed it is full width of the hose and gives a more gentle air flow (good for faces). That must be what the added feature of the one you picked does, and I bet that's what the one does that the company suggested. But - maybe the one you liked will do that with the extra kit! Hope this helps! |
Hint of Mischief wrote: I got the impression it was just a finishing dryer? Cassie, I don't have that dryer so I can't comment on that exact one but my concern would be the heat factor. I have a small Metro force dryer and it really just pushes air with the tiniest amount of heat and it's nowhere nearly warm enough or powerful enough to dry a fully, correct coated dog. It's good enough as a finishing dryer with the nozzle off or to blow minor dampness off the outer coat with the nozzle on but to dry a dog from start to finish would take forever if at all! You really have to have one or the other: crazy amounts of power to blow the water off or enough heat to dry (but not so much that it causes damage). Again, I don't know about that particular dryer but it could be a legitimate concern. What does your breeder have? Can you do a "test run" with one of hers to see if you like it? Or is it returnable if it isn't what you're looking for? |
got sheep wrote: (unless I get REALLY creative... - lol) ! I don't have a stand dryer and because my Double K really kicks the heat, they don't make a dedicated crate attachment for crate drying so you should see the creativity that goes on in the grooming room to get it where I want it. I have clamps attached to lamps and chairs to hold the hose in place while he's on the table and I recently found that if I put the dryer unit on top of his crate, I can put the hose over the ceiling fan, clamp it down and have a nice overhead "stand dryer." For the crate, I have this old wrought iron magazine rack with all these curves in it that I can put the hose though and then pull over to "lock" it in place. That's my crate attachment. I have an ancient Edemco crate dryer that is more like a fan and then a gigantic high-powered fan that cover the other sides of the crate. It's really kind of a grooming/McGuyver room.  |
| This is the spec for the one she recommended I get Tornado 93 Dryer/Blaster The two in one blaster and dryer complete with stand and blaster hose attachment. Blast wet dogs, then use as a hands free finishing dryer. Is the blaster not hands free? Is that bad?! Variable heat and speed controls. 2,100W motor, heater size 1000W, air volume 54 Litres a second, air pressure medium-high, air temp 54-68 c. Is this powerful enough/ too powerful? I found a forum where someone said it takes them an hour to dry their Bernese Mountain Dog. They don't seem all that thickly coated- How long should it take to dry a sheepie after a full bath with a blaster dryer?!  |
| Longer than an hour! I've never dried a dog from soaking wet to finish with a stand dryer or even manually. I use the crate to get a lot of the moisture out and then hand dry for the last half an hour or so. Honestly I've never timed the whole production but it's under 4 hours but probably more than 3 to get Owen washed and all the way dry. Clyde is dry in about 25 minutes. |
those coats that are flatter and don't blow around much take a long time to dry. My bassets take forever to dry, and they hardly have hair.  I swear the dryer air just hits the top outer layer and bounces off. |
   Cassie my dryer came from the UK, Simpson Superjet extra. On stand and wheels so you can move it around, 3 heat settings and 3 fan speeds too and all metal casing, which for durability is better means also you have them forever, if the motor does konk then you can get it reconditioned without buying a whole new dryer. Had friends that the plastic casing on theres cracked and melted so what ever you end up with make sure metal casing as you have them for life then. With the simpson also drying time is fast and filter is as simple as after use, vacuum nozzle to suck off the fine fluff on the filter and every so often you unscrew it and wash the filter pad. Had mine for over 15 years and best thing I ever brought The other thing you have to watch is some dryers/blowers are extremely loud when on the simpson is a quiet dryer too so does not scare the crap out of them |
| hi i cant really advise on the dryer but i can help where to look for great grooming advice on which dryer http://www.the grooming-rooms.co.uk an abundance of friendly groomers which will help and advise. theres lots of posts about dryers or try http://www.technogroomco.uk http://www.christiesdirect.com http://www.groomers-online.com http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk http://www.petcetera.co.uk i wish i could have a stand dryer but i bought one and sold it in 2 weeks as i dont have the room for it. i just blast in the bath till 70% dry then use a hand dryer be careful drying with a blaster as it can cause knots. when i bath billy, who now has no undercoat but his hair is 8-10" it takes me a good 1 1/2 hours brush, 30 mins in the bath with all the leaving the whitening shampoo on for the alloted time then the conditioner. and drying takes about an hour, but like i said i blast (if you use the wider blaster nozzel like a rectangle not the round one its not too bad) then i use a hand dryer. oh how i wish he would just lie there and let me dry him but he has a terrible habbit of trying to catch the hair...not good. billy gets bathed about once a month |
Quote: Had mine for over 15 years and best thing I ever brought The other thing you have to watch is some dryers/blowers are extremely loud when on the simpson is a quiet dryer too so does not scare the crap out of them Hmm.. hows this? From the same company, only £1 more expensive than the one she was trying to sell me. Come to think of it, I think she did mention it briefly. Is this the same as yours Lisa? |
Let me ask you this? Do any of you have a "grooming room" as clean as Lisa's???? I'd have to spend a year cleaning to get mine to even look close! Look how shiny the brick floor is!!!!! No wads of dog hair floating around! Wait! I think I spotted it! The thing that made it possible for the room to look so clean! It's in picture #2... the 3/4 empty wine class!  No seriously.........I am in awe of anyone who can keep a grooming room in this condition. |
Oh the wine glass well it is a "Handfree Dryer"   What's a girl suppose to do why waiting for her dog to dry  Looks like it the link "inthedoghouse" posted http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk/acatal ... ryers.html is the same as mine just a different colour and say more up to date model, this one says all metal casing too. Can highly recommend the Simpsons cost me a fortune here as coming from the UK but well worth the investment for the longer term of things.  |
| I was just looking at that site too! I can't see me using the tube type attachment on the other model to be honest- I want hands free drying so I can have that glass of wine!! I like the sound of having something robust, easy to clean and quiet. |
What's the difference between a multi-purpose and a finishing dryer? The one you have Lisa says it's a finishing dryer. Is it just that the multi-purpose dryer has the option of a more concentrated nozzle? I'm just getting more & more confused  |
| a multipurpose/combination dryer is a mix of a blaster and a stand dryer a finishing dryer is just a dryer. if you are unsure, find a local dealer and go and try them. there is a big difference in noise. i got a stand dryer off ebay it was noisy and didnt really have much output, plus it took up too much room for what it was in my grooming room. do have a look on www.grooming-rooms.co.uk you can always ask which is best for your needs a blaster is a very powerful dryer normally quite noisy too. but wow it does what it says on the label, gives the dogs a nice massage too! i use my blaster when in the bath so i keep all the water in one place. i blast for 10-20 mins but you cant do the face/dogs wont tolerate their face doing. a finishing dryer is much more gentle. i have no idea how long it would take but you would have to have a dog that would lie for a while if you have a nice bottle of wine on the go. if i was to dry billy like that i would be on shots! |
| Blasters are noisy and dont blow hot air they just blow like a hurricane & sound like a jet plane taking off LOL, while the dog is wet in the bath it blows off the excess water. Before putting them on the table and finishing them off with your stand dryer or hand held one . I had one and only used it once it scared the crap out of them. In the bath after while they are still in their I use what is called a "Moisture Magnet" towel there only about $10 to buy, like the old shammies (SP) you just squeeze it over the wet area and it sucks the water from there coats and does not knot the coat up like the blaster/blowers can then just one normal towel when I get them out and just a quick rub with that before putting them up on the table. As it fill with water you just wring out and keep going till all the drippys are no more with the moisture magnet, only takes a few minutes, quicker then the blaster/blowers then there just damp not dripping to get up on the table for complete drying. I hated the blasters/blowers they were loud and scary when I tried it on my lot so sold it after only one go, also it knotted up the coat after all that grooming before the bath.  Another suggestion too, if you can go to the shop and get them to demonstrate whichever dryer you are interested in just to see the force, heat settings of them and the noise they make when on (which IMO is important as some of them do sound like Jet Planes launching and you need ear muffs for the noise, with dogs with better hearing then us then I dont know how they can take it also). Simpson is one of the quietest on the market,quick drying with all the settings appropriate on it, less noisy then the hand held one I had years ago hence I got it & for show coats a dream as you have the force, heat settings etc and fluffs them right out and really quick to dry them Handsfree for a relaxing merlot why the dog is drying |
| I'm torn between the Tornado 93 & Simpsons Supajet extra. I like the thought of quieter operation & strong casing. I also like the thought of blasting the water off quickly. I'm leaning towards the Simpsons, would ask the breeder but she's out of the country so will chat with the supplier again. I'm a looong way from anywhere I could actually see one working. |
| I'm currently looking for a Blaster dryer, which is better than just a dryer. It really blasts the wet hair before you dry. We learned this at the grooming school, I would never buy just a Dryer!! I found one at Technogroom, it's calles SCS-2400 W, Blaster/Dryer, £99.95. sounds good to me as I need a small one, we only live in a flat, no livingroom either! http://www.technogroom.co.uk/catalog/pr ... s-blasters But you might want a Stand Blaster/Dryer as you got the space. have a look at their website Cassie !! Good luck! |
| I got the Simpson's one. Quite a few people said a blaster dryer would just whip the coat into mats. I used it for the first time at the weekend, and found that if I had it too close to Ru, even the Simpsons was whipping the coat into mats, but if I had it a distance away it was no problem. For me the Simpson's Superjet is strong enough, but I don't know about other dryers. In fact, I love it!! |
| That's great Cassie! The best dryer is the one that works for you  |
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