Leg bowed
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| Anytime I ask that question I know the answer. Only a vet (or an orthopedic vet) or PT person can probably really tell you what the issues is. Also dogs don't always show pain. |
| gotta agree w/kerry on this, better to know exactly what the deal is. |
| I don't know anything about the leg, but I have to say, GREAT haircuts! |
Can't hurt to get it checked out, but I know that after one of Barney's haircuts I swore he had a bowed leg, but the vet never thought so. Here's a picture I took of it. |
| HA It looks just like Barney's leg. i will upload a photo. Hope it is just an illusion. The haircuts are well done but I miss their hair! Bogey lools so different! |
| When my dogs are cut short, I swear they have bow legs! I think its an illusion when the hair is full coat and the legs look straight but the show people would know...If there is no limping or lameness, I wouldn't worry... |
| they are supposed to have straight legs. Mine both do, not to say a non straight leg is a serious physical defect, but the standard does call for straight legs. The forelegs dead straight with plenty of bone. |
 Am I seeing things? The left front leg looks bowed to me. Can it be the new hairdcut - an illusion? I will get the vet to look at it. |
| Nope, I see it, too! If it doesn't hurt him, I wouldn't be overly concerned, though having a vet view his leg might not be a bad idea. I think his hair cut is cute! They did a great job! |
| That's what Barney looks like! I wouldn't go to the vet specifically for the bowed leg, but maybe mention it next time you're there. Like I said earlier, my vet thought I was crazy for thinking his leg was bowed. I guess that means I don't need to worry about it. |
| It is bowed. I would have an orth vet check it out and start on some PT to make sure it doesn't become an issue in the future. |
| I agree with Kerry, unfortunately Carol. I am going to guess that is the way his leg looks whenever he stands still??? Robin |
| Yes it looks like that when he stands. Sometimes I think it is his elbow other times I think it is his ankle. He does not limp nor does it both him. But I will have it checked out. I am concerned about what it might cause in the future. |
i will take a look it is hard to tell in the pics they do look cute i am doing my boys this weekend !! now they can all get muddy together .. you will see how easy it is now to get the mud off the paws  |
This is a little different view. I will have this checked. |
Interesting...it looks like he is asymmetrical in the whole left chest and shoulder area, and that is affecting the alignment of the leg as he stands there. The left looks smaller. Is the bone actually less dense, or is it less muscled? (hard to tell without touching) The ortho nurse in me is dying to feel him and see xrays! (sorry, those things really interest me  )Good pictures, btw |
| Is the whit that I'm seeing the inside of the front leg or showing through from the back? |
| ^^^^ I think its both |
| He actually looks like what they call "Out in Elbow" meaning incorrect shoulder lay and angulation of his shoulders and a wide front too. It causes the "out in Elbow" look (Bow Look to the front legs) I personally dont think it is anything to worry about. If you like and I can work out how to post a photo, will scan a diagram of an OES drawing showing the exactly the same thing with an incorrect front making the elbows bow out on the front legs. His not showing any limping, bouncing around like normal just an incorrect front according to the standard hence his bowed at the elbows on the front legs. You probably would not of noticed it at all till you had him clipped down.  Like OES with the rear ends there's good ones and incorrect ones, example like oes that move close behind or have cow hocks does not mean there is ortho problems Just uploaded a diagram after finally working out my new scanner, so will post it when approved for you to see the bow look to the front legs at the elbow area called "Out in Elbow". Really think nothing to get upset or scared about as your dog is acting quite normal in play and other activities just you noticed the bowing on the front legs not being dead straight after the clip off, which can happen as no dog is perfect 100% to standard hence his bow front legs which is not worrying him at all. This diagram came from a breed book explaining incorrect fronts so you can see with the bowing no ortho problems at all. Like backends, there either good or not to standard does not mean there going to have ongoing ortho problems, same with the front ends, just not to standard but nothing detrimental to them either over the longer term prospect of things, just a bit wonky on the look of the front legs not being perfectly straight instead bowed out at the elbows. |
Great photo, love the shadow projected on the wall  |
| Lisaoes - i looked at the scan - could be. Hope you are right. Looks like the diagram on the left. I will also feel his chest area to see if there is something wrong there. The white in the second photo is his front leg. Thanks all for the help. |
| Thanks for that scan Lisa. I think Barney has out elbow too. Might as well, since he seems to have everything else wrong with him And I just have to say, if you look at the pictures sort of unfocused, you get a whole different image (think naked ladies) |
barney1 wrote: Thanks for that scan Lisa. I think Barney has out elbow too. Might as well, since he seems to have everything else wrong with him And I just have to say, if you look at the pictures sort of unfocused, you get a whole different image (think naked ladies) I'm afraid to ask...?  Lisa, excellent explanation. I really wouldn't worry. We had one rescue dog come in, I just looked at him, his legs were going every which way it seemed! It's just structural. OK, not the best agility prospect, but pretty trivial for most pets. Kristine |
SeaLords wrote: Great photo, love the shadow projected on the wall Uhhuh. I never saw that till you mentioned it. Very funny and almost a little scary! KB |
These diagrams show two incorrect forelegs. First one "Elbows Tied in" caused by too narrow a front, second one "Out in Elbow, caused by too wide a front, in other words neither are dead straight front legs due to incorrect construction of the front region.  Sorry for the wonky scan but am still working out this darn new gadget.  oesmom2 really think with your boy nothing at all to worry about as he shows no lameness, does not limp just what they call an incorrect construction of the front end and forelegs as mentioned in a lot of breed books pointing out these faults that can happen. Hence when in full coat it is a hands on breed for judging as the coat can hide a multitude of things. |
| Thanks lisaoes. I am not going to worry. At times the leg seems straight. It is strange. But he is fine. Maybe the next time we are at the vet, i will ask. But for now, he is running, playing .... Oh yes that shadow is strange. HA! |
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