Positive Experiences with Backyard OES Breeders
My Asterisk is the most well-balanced dog. Her temperament is very sweet and she has no physical/emotional issue at all. When I went to her house to see Asterisk, my breeder showed me the whelping pen as well as her home and the parents. The house and whelping pen were immaculate, the puppies were well socialized and the parents were very well balanced. My Wendel came from my breeder, though he was not whelped by her. Wendel was supposed to be her stud dog, but when it was determined and that he had a deformed testicle, she went to his breeder for answers. That breeder did as you all have said, never returned her calls and just 'disappeared'. Since Wendel could not be used as a stud dog, she thought it in his best interest to find him a pet home, which was with me. It was a hard decision for her to place him, but everyone is happy with the decision. My breeder produces wonderful pets and I will go to her again in the future. However, I do know that she is perhaps vastly out-numbered with breeders who do not have the dogs best interest at heart. I just wanted to put my experience out there. |
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| I gotta believe Zeke was bred by a BYB by the records we received after adopting him. I wish I could remember the details of the breeding sheet that came with him, but the gist is that he was bred, was not sold, either given to or bought by a broker who could not move him, given to or sold to a pet store, stuffed in an undersized crate, and rescued by an ASPCA person who fostered him for the SEOESR. We adopted him from that ASPCA person. The SEOESR handled the deal. But so far he's been a healthy dog. Lot's of energy. Loves people. He was a little shy at first (especially of me), but that went away quickly. He's been difficult to train (he seems, well, not so smart; but maybe I don't know the breed as well as seasoned OES owners). Loves to play. His stomach can be a little sensative if fed the wrong food but that's about it. He's been a minimum drain on the wallet. He's been a great dog so far and I'm just glad that he was able to find a good home. |
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| you know, it's real hard for me to say anything bad about my BYB. Someone got on me in one post asking why I wasn't coming out with my experience since someone was asking. Quite frankly she was super nice, always there, loved her dogs, and there were a lot of unnecessary comments about her when people went to her homepage. HOWEVER, on the flip side, though her intentions were good, and she did whatever she felt was necessary...when we got our new dog (dog bred to standard) ...we now understand the importance. Yuki from the outside is a healthy dog. Every vet will tell you that and would even approve of me breeding her. Why not? I'm smart enough to know though that because her furmom and furdad wasn't properly tested for hips, etc before bred ...I know for a fact, she will have a lot of pain and suffering in her future. Something we aren't as concerned about with our new dog. NOT that he can't have the same problems, but his legs aren't as fragile, skinny, or long. We've been careful from the start on what she climbed up/down, etc. yuki has the best temperament. sweetest dog. great herding instincts. perfect with kids and other pets. It was hard to convince my husband to go to a different breeder. Now that we have mequpak though, he understands. I still understand why other people choose not to pay high dollar amounts up front for a new dog esp. breeds that are generally known to be healthy. Plus they have experiences with other dogs that live until they're 13 without a problem. A lot of times, I don't blame them when my friends ignore my advice when getting dog. I wish they saw what I did, but it took being on here for more than a year before I stopped thinking people here were wrong.  I just kept it inside since I loved my byb. I'm happy to hear people who did get their dog from byb's ...didn't have any bad experiences!  |
| I'm happy for all who have had positive experiences with bybs. No, your dogs probably won't win in the show ring, but in the home they are BIS all the time. When I did rescue I loved hearing back from the people where I placed dogs, so if you haven't dropped a thank you note to your "good breeder" or rescue person, they'd love to get an update. As one who lives where there are no OES breeders, good or bad (that I know of) I marvel at areas where rescues can be inundated. Bless you all for your work. |
| <I moved a bunch of posts that might be better searched in the negative backyard breeders thread-- just trying to keep positive with positive and negative or questionable in negative. I'm not trying to change anyone's words, just keep things organized.> |
| I have 3 from a "casual" breeder... most likely 4. Was this your choice of word's, Kristine? 1. happening by chance; fortuitous: a casual meeting. 2. without definite or serious intention; careless or offhand; passing: a casual remark. 3. seeming or tending to be indifferent to what is happening; apathetic; unconcerned: a casual, nonchalant air. .. .. 6. accidental: a casual mishap. It seems to be much less offensive than others used. Anyway, two are littermates and we all know from other threads the great challenge this has been for others. But my two girls have never had a fight in their 6 years together... honestly, never. They are so loving to us and comical. No hip dysplasia, one has a little arthritis in one hip. Two have low thyroid, one has a severe seasonal ragweed allergy that was finally pinpointed about a year ago because my stubbornness  ... I mean persistence... at finding a reason. Kaytee has her birth defect but this can and has happened to deliberate and diligent breeders too. Unfortunately, their breeder no longer breeds OESs. Some say good riddance... I say that it's a shame that others in-the-know didn't try to coax her to do things a little better. I carry my own blame too. I miss this woman's wisdom and passion for the breed. Kaye Fletcher was definitely a woman before her time when it came to titering, vaccinations, feeding, natural remedies and the health of her dogs. But then "life" happened. I think if her husband hadn't been so brutally attacked, they may have had a chance to do things closer to the OESCA standard. I guess we'll never know... Today, because of what I now know, my only options are to rescue or go through an OESCA breeder. I feel I was extremely fortunate that my blind and ignorant search 6 years ago for a breed I knew very little about lead me to Kaye and not someone else. I could have ended up with dogs with temperament issues or genetic problems. I consider myself fortunate. |
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