Deceased Sublime Shar Pei Puppy
Sublime Shar Pei ad for $500.00 thats paid I paid 17yrs ago and was excited. I called and yes a smooth talker she was and told me everything I wanted to hear. After receiving my deposit of $250 she emailed me a picture of my puppy that looked very big, I was to pick her up on 2/13/10 Statesville, NC had snow and sleet on this weekend and I meet Gena at a Citgo store along with another buyer which was a breeder. After receiving Cricket we stop at a rest area and I noticed how small she was having diarrhea. When we got home she couldn't stand and wouldn't eat just drank a little water. By Sunday my husband said call that breeder back so I called the vet next door in turn said take the dog bag its to little to take away from the mother and he doubt she had a vet. I meet the breeder back in Greensboro Sunday night cried all the way there and back. Once again smooth talker she was saying she take care of her she was a reliable breeder I had to call her on Monday to find out the status on Cricket then she told me she had died, she never mentioned giving me my money back but instead shared with me that she had and autopsy on cricket and the cost. She offered another puppy which I don't think she had, I told her to send my money back I just didn't have that feeling of getting another dog right now. She was lossed for words about the money. I called her on Wednesday to make sure she had put my money in mail and she hadn't she was going to call me and see if she could mail me $250 know and the rest later  Well of course I've reseached her by this point and was told I wouldn't get my money back and she done all the vet work herself and over the Christmas holidays 6 puppies she had sold to people had died. When I told her I wanted all my money she started talking about the autopsy I said stop right ther Gena the dog is died send me my mine and I expect to have it by Tuesday the following week. Well she has deleted me from her friend on Facebook, won't return my emails about getting the vet's name and number. It may cost me $1,000 but I don't care. I know part of this was my fault but we were so excited about getting this puppy I didn't even notice it was suffering  |
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| Sounds to me like the whole litter had Parvo; and you don't have an entire litter have Parvo and not know it. I think this woman has taken advantage of everyone she dealt with.
I suspect you have no recourse; you met her at a Citgo, and communicated through Facebook. both of these should have been red flags; youwant to meet a breeder at their home or kennel; SEE the dogs that are being bred, see how they are living. It sounds like you have no real way to contact her, so no way to pursue legal action in the hopes of getting your money back. Plus, if you had no contract with her regarding the health of the puppy, then she isn't obligated to give you your money back. Yes she did a terrible thing; but I'm sorry to say you weren't very thorough in your own pursuit of a puppy or this might have not happened. A healthy puppy isn't something you do a secret transaction for at a gas station. Also; if the puppy was sick; the first recourse is to take it to YOUR vet, not drive it back to the questionable person you got it from. If the sickness is serious, that driving time is time that the vet could have been spending trying to make your dog well. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh; I don't mean to. I'm very sorry for your loss, your hurt, and the money you have lost as well. But people are always looking for inexpensive puppies, and then are surprised and hurt when it doesn't work out. They say that puppies from reputable, reliable breeders are too expensive, but at least you would have a healthy puppy for what is spent, and if not, a health guarantee and your money back or another puppy if your dog is not well. |
| Please register so I can send you a private message. As Allison said, the pup probably died of Parvo.
It sounded like she was willing to refund your money but wasn't able to do so all at once. Write up a contract stating when the rest will be paid, have her sign/date it and send it back with the partial payment. It might be more than what others say they've gotten. |
| The puppy had a full necropsy performed by a licensed Veterinarian, and the findings are PARVO negative. The puppy was found to have numerous bruises, and had been given only cows milk and not water. The puppy became ill and no care was provided on the behalf of Jennifer Head for the days she was in your care. The puppy has health records (many) and all care was done by a licensed Veterinarian. The puppy had received a perfect bill of health prior to going into your care. I will be happy to provide the documents or you can obtain them directly from our Veterinarian to ensure they are not tampered with or falsified. Jennifer we understand that you are sad by the loss of cricket, but the blame is not on us. I can imagine how hard it must be to know that you directly caused the death of the puppy. We have warned you about your false statements and that litigation would be taken up against you if such continued. |
This is a perfect example of why you should research a breeder before you sign anything. I have had 8 OES over the years and have never met a breeder at a gas station, and would not buy a puppy from someone I either don't know or wasn't an OESCA breeder. The price alone should make you think about it further, contacting other breeders to get a feel for the prices charged would give you a pretty good idea. Sadly there are dishonest breeders and unscrupulous buyers in every breed, although I am not saying either is true in this case a buyer has to bear some responsibilty. It does sound like Gena was trying to work something out but if what she said is true then she really can't be blamed. These are always sad situations because a puppy is dead  . It isn't clear exactly what day you picked Cricket up but if she was sick at that time and you waited several days to do something then you must bear the blame for not acting sooner. |
| I am the breeder, I only meet Paula at the gas station because she insisted on coming in the worst snow storm that NC had seen in many years. The drive way was totally in passable for Paula's BMW car. I was shocked that Paula even called and said she was almost to our home. I agreed to meet her at the store because her car was not suitable to travel on a secondary road that had not been scraped. The puppy has several Veterinary records that indicate it was in top health. I the breeder have done every thing that I could and should have done. I vaccinate with NEOPAR, which is one of the best vaccine on the market. Puppies are given vaccine while here and we have all records. Paula treated this puppy like a human baby, to include giving it cows milk and not water. Paula has not explanation for why she deprived this puppy of water and all the bruises the puppy came back with. Paula failed to mention that I drove 4 hours to get the puppy back from her when she called and said her puppy was not feeling well. Paula's next door neighbor is a Vet, she never took this puppy to the Vet. I had a necropsy on this puppy to determine if the puppy was sick and the cause of death. We understand the guilt Paula must feel, but the blame is not on us at all. Paula received a refund and I have proof of everything. If Paula was accurate in her statements, then she would have a great case against me. The facts do not support her. I have had to contact my attorney in regards to this post/thread along with other actions taken by Paula P. I feel that I have been slandered and I have requested kindly that this tread be removed from your website. |
Gena wrote: I am the breeder, I only meet Paula at the gas station because she insisted on coming in the worst snow storm that NC had seen in many years. The drive way was totally in passable for Paula's BMW car. I was shocked that Paula even called and said she was almost to our home. I agreed to meet her at the store because her car was not suitable to travel on a secondary road that had not been scraped. The puppy has several Veterinary records that indicate it was in top health. I the breeder have done every thing that I could and should have done. I vaccinate with NEOPAR, which is one of the best vaccine on the market. Puppies are given vaccine while here and we have all records. Paula treated this puppy like a human baby, to include giving it cows milk and not water. Paula has not explanation for why she deprived this puppy of water and all the bruises the puppy came back with. Paula failed to mention that I drove 4 hours to get the puppy back from her when she called and said her puppy was not feeling well. Paula's next door neighbor is a Vet, she never took this puppy to the Vet. I had a necropsy on this puppy to determine if the puppy was sick and the cause of death. We understand the guilt Paula must feel, but the blame is not on us at all. Paula received a refund and I have proof of everything. If Paula was accurate in her statements, then she would have a great case against me. The facts do not support her. I have had to contact my attorney in regards to this post/thread along with other actions taken by Paula P. I feel that I have been slandered and I have requested kindly that this tread be removed from your website. As far as this thread is concerned, you have not been slandered. Slander refers to the spoken word, not printed. And, from what little I know about this situation, it seems like there is enough blame to go around on both sides. A customer looking for a pup must research the breeders before they buy. Conversely, most reputable breeders will interview and investigate the prospective buyers of their pups to insure their pups go to a good home. It seems to me that both parties in this case share the burden and guilt of what happened to the poor puppy. This example should be a learning tool for both buyers and breeders alike. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!! |
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ VERY well said, Mark!!!! I agree 1000%%% |
| I suspect placing blame in this situation is pointless. The real victim here is the dead puppy, and not a careless owner or a breeder that didn't screen the potential owners well enough. |
| My name is Phyllis. My family and I drove from Southern NJ to Gina Caudill's home in NC November 2009. On arrival I met my puppy, his name is Jack. It was love at first sight . We drove back to NJ within days Jack was at the Vet. He was one of the finest Shar Pei's my Veternarian has seen. She stated his wrinkes were absolutely fabulous. He is and has always been healthy. Gina placed a follow up call months later to see how he was doing. I am so sorry that you had a bad experience with Gina and your puppy. Jack is beautiful, intelligent and is easily trained. He is also partial to remote controls. He has destroyed four to date and one cell phone. I love him with all my heart, he is my second shar pei. I too rescued my first one. i will never be without one. |
| How old was Cricket when she was taken to meet her new owner at the gas station during a snow storm? |
| Thought you all might like to know that I received an email from someone claiming to be Gena Caudill threatening legal action if I did not remove this thread from the website. Actually, it is the second email that I have received from someone claiming to be Gena Caudill threatening legal action. I'd like to point out that I just noticed in the two anonymous defenses that were posted, it seems the wrong name was in the text. Or maybe there were two customers and the Anonymous posters forgot to change the name in the text? Did anyone else notice this? Am I missing something? Emphasis mine: Gena wrote: I am the breeder, [...] Emphasis mine:Paula treated this puppy like a human baby, to include giving it cows milk and not water. [...] I had a necropsy on this puppy to determine if the puppy was sick and the cause of death. We understand the guilt Paula must feel, but the blame is not on us at all. Paula received a refund and I have proof of everything. Truth shall set you free wrote: The puppy had a full necropsy performed by a licensed Veterinarian, and the findings are PARVO negative. The puppy was found to have numerous bruises, and had been given only cows milk and not water. The puppy became ill and no care was provided on the behalf of Jennifer Head for the days she was in your care. The puppy has health records (many) and all care was done by a licensed Veterinarian. The puppy had received a perfect bill of health prior to going into your care. I will be happy to provide the documents or you can obtain them directly from our Veterinarian to ensure they are not tampered with or falsified. Jennifer we understand that you are sad by the loss of cricket, but the blame is not on us. I can imagine how hard it must be to know that you directly caused the death of the puppy. We have warned you about your false statements and that litigation would be taken up against you if such continued. Now THAT is a coincidence -- two customers feeding their new puppies cow's milk and not water. ...and is it just me, or do these messages seem so mean spirited to people who are grieving over the loss of their puppies? I guess there will be a long drawn-out litigation over this, so I will keep you all posted. |
| 8 years have passed and I still haven't been notified of any litigation filed. Too bad. It would have been interesting to meet this breeder in court. She even asked an online attorney if she could sue me. He said you can try... https://www.justanswer.com/business-law ... -made.html |
| 10 Years have passed. Still nothing. I guess I can spend the $20 I had put aside to defend oes.org |
| By the way, it appears that Gena Caudill had remarried and perhaps changed her name to Gena M Bowery in Morganton, NC (North Carolina) Here's her public picture from facebook  She seems to identify as a blond, but I think she was assigned brunette at birth. I could be wrong. (She's a very pretty lady either way, my mother had similar natural hair. She tried to go blond at one point and wound up a redhead because her hair was so black they couldn't bleach it long enough to go blond. Mom liked being a redhead much better than the grey!)  See, when people have a public discussion about suing me, it does get my attention and I thought I'd like to have a looksee who it was that was accusing me of conspiracy to defame her who also seemed to accuse a lot of customers of feeding their dogs cow milk. Seems she has an upcoming court date, or a hearing date or something this coming October, 2020. I don't want her to miss it!!! GENA CAUDILL v. TRIAGE, LLC CAROLINA CASUALTY INSURANCE CO. (KEY RISK MANAGEMENT SERVICES) http://www.ic.nc.gov/ncic/pages/100520sant.pdf Good luck, Gena Caudill / Gena Bowery / Gena M Bowery / Gena Michelle Martin or whichever name you'd like to go by in Morganton. I hope you get all you deserve out of the hearing. Are you still selling puppies? |
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