Sheepies on Craigslist
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| What beautiful dogs! I wish I was closer, I could totally foster one at my home. Anyone know if rescues have been contacted for these two dogs? |
| If I wasn't still so raw from Lola and didn't have my hands full with Maggie...
Riverside is where I found Lola. |
| I contacted Pat Wolter with OES Southwest Rescue about the Phoenix dog-
http://www.oessouthwestrescue.org And later found the Phoenix dog is being sold on Puppyfind- Valentino Old English Sheepdog Puppy for Sale Breed: Old English Sheepdog Sex: Male Age: 16 Weeks Price: $500 USD When the seller was contacted through the Craigslist ad with OES rescue information, this was the reply... Quote: hello thanks for that but i just got great news my dad is willing to take him. he loves dogs and that way we can be close eventhough my dad lives in another city. |
| I answered the ad for the one in Riverside. The girl is still available. I was not looking to adopt but I wanted to check out the situation of the girl. The owner who took my call sounded very nice. She described this dog a very nice friendly dog as well. I thought perhaps I could just take the dog in temporarily and look for a permanant home for her. So in the meantime, she would still have a nice home with dogs to keep her accompany.
I asked the owner if I can meet the dog tomorrow (its an hour drive for me) She told me she is only available today till 2:30pm and she will be away till Sunday. She said there are a couple of others called about the girl and are going to meet the dog. So I should really come meet the girl today before 2:30pm. I don't think I could do that  being still at work and all that.
There are more pictures of this beautiful girl here: http://www.pennysaverusa.com/category/m ... 92474.html By the way, she is not fixed!!!  I hope whoever get her won't use her to breed puppies!!!  |
| Thanks for sharing more information on her. I had come across her ad a few times now.
Quote: By the way, she is not fixed!!! I hope whoever get her won't use her to breed puppies!!!
It may happen too  |
| An ad like that screams breed me ..I hope whoever gets her has her spayed. |
| OMG, I think these are the same people I got Lola from. They are within 2 houses. Were they hispanic? I just checked, different phone number. I also tried their old number and it is disconnected, so it could still be them. |
| The girl who answered my call spoke fluent English. I couldn't tell if she had any accent. When I asked if the dog was sociable, she told me the dog had puppies once and she was very good with the puppies. I asked her where she got the dog from, and her reply was very vague....She told me she got her from this other person I hope this dog has gone to a good home. She was very eager to get rid of the dog. She told me she was going out of town till Sunday in a few hours and whoever came first would get the dog...no concerns of who would be a better home for the dog, just first come first serve. She said she really wanted the dog to go that day. I noticed she had all upper case saying "NOT SPAYED" in the ads like it was a sales factor I also think the dog lives outdoor because she said she had a friend brought over a puppy once and she let the dog in to play with the puppy and the dog was very friendly and gentle with the puppy (that means the dog lives outside to me!) |
| Yes, the woman I rescued Lola from was american hispanic. She was also very vague as to where she got her from. She also was 'leaving town' for a few days and I had to get there quickly. Once I realized that they were going to leave Lola in an uncovered kennel, in full coat with 100+ degree weather for the weekend, I knew I couldn’t leave her with them. They HAVE to be the same people. When I went to pick Lola up, they brought her to the house where we were to meet. They never went inside. She said it was her 'mother's' house. She had her kids with her and they seemed oddly unattached to Lola. I wondered if she was stolen, so I checked around and there were no reports. I just couldn’t leave her there with them. So I gave them the $450 they were asking and took her home. A month later the seizures started. Upon xray they found a BB in Lolas hip. When we got her she was so matted, she had sores under the mats. She had a severe infection in both ears. This was a 6 month old puppy. |
LolasMama wrote: I wondered if she was stolen, so I checked around and there were no reports. You know, I wonder the same thing. If this is the same person then they should have the authorities called on them, this is just cruel. I wonder if she still has that poor dog. |
| I don't see any ads for her anymore, so I guess she has found a new home. Lola's mom, they told me they were near 91/15 in Riverside. Was there where you went to pick up Lola? Chances are, this dog might be Lola's birth mom...being that she is 1 year and 10 months old...  |
Gigi wrote: I don't see any ads for her anymore, so I guess she has found a new home. Lola's mom, they told me they were near 91/15 in Riverside. Was there where you went to pick up Lola? Chances are, this dog might be Lola's birth mom...being that she is 1 year and 10 months old... God, I hope not. Lola was 13 months old. Disgusting. Now I am sick that I didn’t call. If she WAS Lola's Mama, I SHOULD have saved her. My heart just couldn’t take any more right away. It hadn’t even occurred to me. Oh God, what have I done.. |
LolasMama wrote: Gigi wrote: I don't see any ads for her anymore, so I guess she has found a new home. Lola's mom, they told me they were near 91/15 in Riverside. Was there where you went to pick up Lola? Chances are, this dog might be Lola's birth mom...being that she is 1 year and 10 months old... God, I hope not. Lola was 13 months old. Disgusting. Now I am sick that I didn’t call. If she WAS Lola's Mama, I SHOULD have saved her. My heart just couldn’t take any more right away. It hadn’t even occurred to me. Oh God, what have I done.. Gina, don't beat yourself up! It's not your fault that there are irresponsible people in this world. All we can hope is that the dog did get a great home with loving people. Who knows? maybe that person still has her? |
| Gina I was just making a wild guess she could be Lola's mama, we don't even know for sure that is the same person you got Lola from. Please don't beat yourself up over that. I am a firm believer that we dog lovers get our turns to be blessed to cross path with the dog we are designated to share love. You and Lola were blessed to have each other for the time you and her had, even though short. This girl is not meant to cross your path. You can't blame yourself for not able to help her. Perhaps I will give that woman another call to find out more.... |
| If she does still have her, and someone here can offer her a home, please let me know. I will go and get her. Although I can’t guarantee that I won’t beat the crap out of the people, if they are one and the same. If she is Lola's Mama, I owe it to Lola. |
| I just had my son call her on speaker phone. It is the same woman. She still has her. I so want to call and go nuts on her. She said that the dog had been bred 2 months ago and that the puppies died because one was in breech blocking the others. So the question is, can anyone here offer her a home? Is anyone in the position to take a chance on her? I know I can’t. I would be willing to go and get her for someone, however. |
| Too bad it's so far, but we'd be willing to foster! |
| I might be able to help...Gina, I pm'd you.... |
| I have also been thinking on this quite a bit. If we BUY the dog from her, we are creating a market and rewarding her behavior. It is no different than going into a pet store and supporting puppy mills. If she wants to surrender the dog to rescue, that is another matter. This is all so heartbreaking. |
LolasMama wrote: I have also been thinking on this quite a bit. If we BUY the dog from her, we are creating a market and rewarding her behavior. It is no different than going into a pet store and supporting puppy mills. If she wants to surrender the dog to rescue, that is another matter. This is all so heartbreaking. I do agree with you, Gina. I guess the only concern I have is for the girls health. If she was bred twice before the age of two and she lost a litter of puppies, they are not caring for her. Also, if they are marketing that she is not spayed (which it seems like they are) then they might be looking to sell her to someone who would buy her based on that she could be used to breed more puppies. It's a hard decision, you're right. I just hope she goes to the right person. |
| The problem here is that we are not dealing with an honest person. On one hand she says year and a half, on the other she says year and 10 months. Chances are she would not admit to breeding a dog in her first heat. |
| I just called to confront her. She doesn’t admit to being the same woman. It IS her. I can’t do anything with someone who is obviously doing something criminal/amoral. If someone else can call her and get her to surrender to rescue, I will pick her up. |
LolasMama wrote: The problem here is that we are not dealing with an honest person. On one hand she says year and a half, on the other she says year and 10 months. Chances are she would not admit to breeding a dog in her first heat. You're right. That poor girl, I just hope she gets away from them soon. |
| Ok, so she called me back and now she IS the person I rescued Lola from and NOW she says she has never tried to breed her. AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I told her that I would be willing to take the dog to rescue. She says she has someone coming to look at her. Apparently, they bought this dog after we bought Lola from them because her kids 'were crying' and missed Lola so much. Uh, yeah, these are the same kids who hardly even glanced at the dog as we took her. She is obviously a liar. I just can’t figure out what is really going on here. |
| Once we take this dog off her hand, I am sure she will get another one and if that other one doesn't work out, she will sell it and buy another one. I am already seeing a pattern here We don't want to feed the evil but we can't ignore a dog is in need of rescue...what to do!!!??? |
Gigi wrote: Once we take this dog off her hand, I am sure she will get another one and if that other one doesn't work out, she will sell it and buy another one. I am already seeing a pattern here We don't want to feed the evil but we can't ignore a dog is in need of rescue...what to do!!!??? I honestly don't know. I am not giving her a DIME. Maybe if she has to give it to rescue, she will stop. |
LolasMama wrote: Gigi wrote: Once we take this dog off her hand, I am sure she will get another one and if that other one doesn't work out, she will sell it and buy another one. I am already seeing a pattern here We don't want to feed the evil but we can't ignore a dog is in need of rescue...what to do!!!??? I honestly don't know. I am not giving her a DIME. Maybe if she has to give it to rescue, she will stop. But do you think she WOULD give it to rescue? I would keep an eye on any city shelters in that area. If she can't sell her, she may drop her off there... or even just drop her off on the side of the road. |
| I don't know if she would. I will keep an eye on the shelters though. She did say she would call me if she couldn’t find a buyer. I think she would rather do that than explain to the shelter why she is turning her in. |
| Is she still trying to get $360 for her? There's a fine line sometimes between saving a dog and enabling a seller to buy new "stock" so they can continue with the nonsense, abuse, or whatever it is they've been doing. I've been on the wrong side of that line before and can never in good conscience do it again. Personally, I see no problem with paying $100 for a dog, especially an unaltered bitch, so it can get into rescue. Get a breeding bitch out of the system and it's how many future puppies rescues may NOT need to deal with? But paying much more, I risk the possibility of having the whole thing repeat itself. I can't in good conscience save one dog only to put another in it's place. There are times we have to simply turn away. |
| Yes, she still wants $360. It is my concern as well that she will just get another one. |
This whole thing is so heartbreaking. I hope that this person will do the right thing and turn her over to rescue. I wish that we had better ways to protect dogs when they are in the hands of abusive people.  |
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