Adding a NOT OES breed to the bunch
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Lots of folks here have multiple breeds in their "packs". I'd love to get a third dog, but don't think I can groom three Sheepdogs, so think it might have to be a non-OES. But then I think, I could just make it another OES and keep it shaved.  |
......as a seeing eye dog to the blind OES? 
A puppy would probably work in well as the older male OES would be pack leader.....behind the uprights of course. Another thought is a Golden Retriever...they are mellow. |
| when ever I think about adding a third dog, my first thought is SHEDDING. I'm spoiled with non-shedding OES, so would want another non-shedding breed. But something I don't have to worry about grooming as much as an OES. There are a few people here that have a Yorkie and an OES, and I like the idea of adding a smaller dog to my pack. |
| Edgar's pall is a English Shepherd. They get along pretty good. I hate how much she sheds though. Otherwise, she is a really sweet dog. |
| that's EXACTLY my fear; we're spoiled by how much our OES don't shed. I don't know if I can do a shedding dog!!!! |
I have 5 shedding dogs and a foster shedding dog......my furniture takes more grooming than Chewie......  |
Now the debate..Do OES not shed? Mine do.. Having a double coat if not brushed as with any dog they shed?? Just wondering? My thoughts...wondering? |
Donner's Mom wrote: :lol:
Now the debate..Do OES not shed? Mine do.. Having a double coat if not brushed as with any dog they shed?? Just wondering? My thoughts...wondering? No, they don't shed, persay. They lose hair like humans. They have hair not fur. |
| what she said! Sure, there are OES hairs floating around the house, and they gather into tumble weeds if I don't vacuum often enough. But if this was a shedding breed, we'd be COVERED in this hair. If you run your hand along your sheepie's back, you won't come away with a handful of hair. Try that trick with a Golden Retriever, Husky or German Shephard and you'll get a handful of hair. |
| We love our sheepies, but aren't in love with the full coat. There's no need to keep them there, so we shave them frequently. Then, grooming's easy for a few months. We brush them to keep up the habit, but it's a breeze.
When they do get longer I don't find they shed, per se, but hair comes out in blobs, clumps, and bunnies (my apologies for using such highly technical terms). The only places I really notice any single strand fur that's been shed is in or near the butter dish, when wet nail polish is around, or when my nose is all tingly. In those cases, it's always one strand and it's always very clever at ducking out of the way when you try to snag it. We have friends with shepherds. Great dogs. But I don't envy them the shedding. It's constant and no matter how often they sweep, dust, etc. it seems to come right back. I think it's ironic that such a big hairy breed is actually much easier to handle as far as the fur they leave around goes. |
Quote: when ever I think about adding a third dog, my first thought is SHEDDING. I'm spoiled with non-shedding OES, so would want another non-shedding breed. But something I don't have to worry about grooming as much as an OES.
I'm TOTALLY with you on that one. Greg says he would like a GSD but I've told him he can't have one until we have a house big enough to include an area for the dogs to live in separately |
| If you dont like shedding whatever you do NOT get a dalmatian!!!
Dalmo owners joke that dalmo's only shed twice a year but for 6 months each time and its true. There is constant hair everywhere, and its black and white so it doesnt matter what color I wear you can see the hair.  The dog car is ruined, as we cant get all the hair out of the upholstery. Its so short and spikey that it weaves its way into the fabric and carpet and is impossible to get out.
I never have to bath him though. Dirt falls right off him and they hardly have any doggy smell.  |
| I have one OES Violet, who was my first dog and then I brought in two Aussies. All has worked out well....I also have a cat..who is the oldest of the pack. |
traciels28 wrote: The only places I really notice any single strand fur that's been shed is in or near the butter dish, when wet nail polish is around, or when my nose is all tingly. In those cases, it's always one strand and it's always very clever at ducking out of the way when you try to snag it. I can agree with this comment but you forgot one other place....your eyelashes! Can't say how many hours I've spent trying to get that elusive hair off my eyelashes after grooming & that's wearing glasses!traciels28 wrote: I think it's ironic that such a big hairy breed is actually much easier to handle as far as the fur they leave around goes.
One of the most asked questions by spectators at shows even when they are asking about my dogs in shorter cuts for performance work. When they look at one mine in full coat & I tell them that I can hear them silently saying "yeah, right  " |
| I have to agree about the shedding, especially when it's time for the other breeds to blow their coat. This once, twice a year experience drops all the undercoat at one time. Ever see a wild animal in shed? Unless brushed out the under coat falls out in clumps but not before hanging loose on the animal.
Now grooming theseshorter haired shedders in nonshed time is pretty straight forward, brush and clean the brush a few times during as the natural dead hairs come out. This is opposed to rubbing it on to the sofa or carpet. A shorter hair GSD will brush out rather quickly, making it easier to do frequently. The Furminator might remove the shedding hair quickly once it is ripe enough to fall out. My Harry, the unknown, is the easiest to maintain, no tangles except at the poop shoot, fluffly undercoat that comes out a bit with each brushing and jumps onto the brush at shed. Ten minutes it all it takes to totally rid this boy of his undercoat....amazing. Not having a GSD I don't know if this would apply. Having had a Siberian, wow, her shed was a major drop and extended for weeks. People with short haired dogs complain a lot as they say the shorter hairs weave into the fabric. Can't speak to this. Another possible breed is Standard Poodle, smart, healthy well properly bred and less shedding...even "nonshedding" from some folks. Just keep them in a simple cut, not silliness. |
| I had two OES and no intention of getting another dog. Then last Sept. I found a little Maltese/Poodle mix under a car in a parking garage. After putting real effort into finding her owner, no one claimed her.
She gets along well with the pack especially with 101 lb. Winston. The two OES are very jealous of each other but not the least of the little one who can eat out of their dishes and sleep in their beds with no repercussions. The little one is very agile and knows how to get out of the way. She's energetic and can keep up on all the walks. |
| I have a GSD and an OES, so I can vouch that the combination of breeds do okay together. Remember they are both herding breeds, just in different ways. Our GSD noses everything as a part of her herding, she is also known for side swiping when she goes by us, she is always much more vocal. Finn just does the typical OES stuff, running in circles, barking.
They are both super dogs, but training Chey, the GSD, is different than training Finn. She is like a robot, and Finn does things on his own time, with his own agenda! The dog hair is HORRIBLE. She sheds constantly, and not just a little. Finn leaves white fuzz around rarely, but there are a never ending supply of coarse grey and black hair tumbleweeds creeping up. I used to think I was an okay housekeeper before her. She is my husband's 2nd shepherd and he has said she will be his last, the shedding bothers him that much. So, yes both are my loves, but like everything, there is the good and the bad. |
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