The OES Trip!
Whilst walking alongside you, he quickly wraps his nearest front paw around your lower leg from behind whilst at the same time applying his shoulder to the back of your upper leg - the result is him tripping you forward (well almost!). I swear that he's just doing it for a bit of fun! Is this something they do whilst herding sheep, I wonder?! It's novel! Nik  |
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bealsibub wrote: Is this something they do whilst herding sheep, I wonder?! It's novel! Nik Not and be allowed to continue herding  |
| I should add that in general Kenzie is very well behaved and I am very much his pack leader. He knows the rules, and he doesn't get away with it, but that doesn't stop him trying occasionally (he's a teenager and that's what they do - push the boundaries!).
It doesn't worry me and I can deal with it - I just mentioned it because I thought that it was a very unusual thing for a dog to do! Nik |
| That's not a slam against Kenzi. Dogs will be dogs. It's a form of play. But not a move a herding dog would use. On stock at any rate
Kristine |
| Ah, the old front paw grab! Yes, my dogs do it too! We'll be playing with a tug toy or ball and while the toy is in the mouth, they wrap their front paw around my leg and continue to play! Yes, you can lose your balance and fall. BUT I tell my dogs, off and stop the play until they take the paw off me. Then we continue to play.
I don't think its any bad behavior. I think its part of their herding instinct...to "trip" you or keep you from walking. I don't think its a dominance thing or anything more than play. But I would not encourage it because it can cause you as the human to fall!  Use a word, the same word all the time, that means "release your paw from my leg...Use one word, all the time. Maybe "release"...then whe he does, continue to play. He'll get the hint after a million times! |
| My sheepie I had growing up did that when she was "herding" us. |
| let me clarify. I am not a proponent of alpha's or dominance theory or whatever is the latest buzz. nor did I intend to imply the dog was bad, aggressive or testing you. All I meant was it is not an accepted herding behavior. Any herdsman or shepard I have ever met would not stand for such a behavior so therefore I assume it has nothing to do with herding.
Personally I find this breed to be pretty "handy" meaning they use their paws to try to get what they want more than other breeds I have experience with. Now would I encourage such behavior - personally no, some individuals are not as steady on their feet as I am and I wouldn't want my dog to think it was okay to trip an elderly person or someone less steady on their feet. JMHO |
| Langley does that to me! at least once on our walk I have to get his mind back on the walk. He does that same move it starts with grabbing the leash; which I stop and then he seems to think fine lady LEGS!!!! |
| LOl Spacegirl - that's exactly when he does it to me!!
Nik |
| Archie does it occasionally
I find it funny |
| Chauncey has only recently started doing this, at age 4, but not often. Our OTB Lab was really slick at it, so I'm not really sure it's related to herding. Both Chauncey and Jake do/did it while playing, not on a walk. Jake just started at a much younger age. |
Molly has to do this, not when we walk but when she sits beside us or  when my wife is in the washroom .... she likes to be close. |
Sheepdogrikki wrote: Molly has to do this, not when we walk but when she sits beside us or
when my wife is in the washroom .... she likes to be close.Oh, we are well familar with the obligatory OES restroom attendants 
Kristine |
| Ha has...the restrom attendants! Mine sit by the door if I'm quick enough to close it before I ahve to go...Or...they come right in and stare at me while I go
I wonder sometimes if they figure, hey you watch me while I go...why can't I watch you |
and people wonder why we love them so much  |
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