How to stop weeing in the house?!
Anyway, here is my story. Me and my girlfriend bought an Old English Sheepdog called Alfie in November and he is coming up to 4 and half months old. He had all his vaccines a little late as we were mis-informed by the breeder as to when he had his first vaccine meaning we had to start from scratch making him 2 weeks behind in going outside for walks/toilet training him. We have been able to take Alfie out for over a month now and he has taken to doing his poo's outside really well! However, going wee is a completely different story. He knows he is not suppose to go in the house because each time we catch him we show our disapproval, when he goes outside we praise and give him treats. He also knows the word for wee wee and poo poo as we say this everytime he goes. Unfortunetly he seems to wee every 30mins and he gives no warning when he is about to go. I usually put him in the garden when i think he is due to go. It has worked many times but if i leave him on his own for less then an hour he is guaranteed to go. We restrict him only to the dining room, we use to let him loose in the lounge as well but he has started to eat all the wallpaper off the walls. He never use to wee in the lounge apart from on one or two rare occasions. I know he can hold it back as in other surroundings like long journeys in the car he chooses not to go but it's as if he can't be bothered to hold it back in the house. I know puppies have poor bladder control so i am wondering if this is it but to go roughly every 30mins or so seems a little too often i'd have thought. I have tried everything from completely disinfecting the floor with lots of different anti bacteria sprays and boiling water to remove the scent. I've even today bought a spray called "Wash and Get Off" Which is suppose to remove oddors and deter dogs from soiling the same spot. Problem is as soon as i sprayed it he went an hour later. I don't even know if he smells for the right scent, he just seems to go. I know it takes patients and I know he will get it eventually but it is quite disheartening when things don't seem to be working when one minute i'm thinking, "Yes, this has got to work" and i raise my hopes, then it's back to the drawing board. Does anyone have any tips for this situation?? I'm sure you've all been there before.  Look forward to hearing from you!!
Ashley  |
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| Just a quick update, i just put him outside to do a wee, he kept circling, barked to come in, brought him in, had a bit of a drink and went for a massive wee on the floor.(even though i'd just sprayed that stuff to deter him). How annoying!!! |
| 4 1/2 months is still a baby and the controll is hard, excitement, over happy, all sorts of reasons can make them pee accidently.
Start again and also restrict the water in the house, that is as soon as he gets up from a sleep even if been asleep through the day, pop him on the lead and take him too an area in the yard to potty. Use the command word like go pee and when he does praise and even a little treat. Take him back inside then give him a drink. 10 minutes later repeat the process. At night time, take the water up, give him his last drink about 1/2 hour before bedtime then nothing till the morning. Last thing at night pee pee time then again first thing in the morning. Getting them to do it with lead controll means also you are sort of telling them this is the potty place I want you to go and the house is not one big potty area. By restricting his water and not leaving a bowl down you are controlling the amount of his intake till he clicks and can hold longer. When pee controll is met then you can start leaving the water bowl down permantley when he is older. Some click fast others take a little longer, but just go back to scheduled pee pees outside under your controll, using a command word and lots of praise when he squirts outside. By the sounds of it, no UTI problem as he can hold in the car on long journeys so it just sounds like you need to re-start a regular potty program with him so he gets it and controll the water at the moment. Never scald an accident inside as that can lead to greater problems of continual peeing inside, ignore that and use positive praise when he goes outside. Keep a regular routine going and eventually he will click the house is not one giant potty. So after a sleep outside to pee, drinks 10 minutes later outside to pee, last thing at night before bed, pee pee time, first thing in the morning outside for a pee etc etc establishing a set routine they soon pick up on it when and where to go as well as you restricting the water intake to help there till older. Even playing inside, getting excited, after straight out to pee. Mine pee on command now which is great, even when nothing there they still squat on the " twinkle" command 
Be patient he is still a baby and the controll is just not there at the moment till older  . |
| Thank you so much for the words of encouragement lisaoes, although he was constantly weeing yesterday, during the night there was nothing to my amazement!! I think i'm expecting too much from him from such an early age. I know in time things will improve, just have to be patient and keep buying kitchen roll and disinfectant. |
Noakesy wrote: Thank you so much for the words of encouragement lisaoes, although he was constantly weeing yesterday, during the night there was nothing to my amazement!!
Now that is interesting! And during the night he was probably sleeping, so not excited at all. It sounds like he goes out, gets too excited to take care of business - hey! it's fun to be out! - and then comes in and it catches up with him. When you take him out, do you do so on a leash, standing stock still until he runs out of interesting things to sniff and explore and he remembers why he's there? And I mean you stand out there till he produces if you feel it should be time for him to pee. Praise for producing. I'd literally slip a cookie in my little girls' mouths as they squatted to pee. Good peepee!  If you want him to be able to run around and play, no problem: once he's produced, leash comes off. Another reason to hurry up and pee!
At a year old my boy dog came potty trained but wanting to lift his leg inside to mark on occasion. Not! I slapped pee pants on him. The first time he peed himself  was the last time he lifted his leg.  Some dogs don't care, but it might be worth a try. Every time he pees inside it makes it harder to convince him he's not supposed to and trotting around carrying cleanup supplies does indeed get old pretty quickly.
Kristine |
| Put a bell on the door and teach him to ring when he has to go. That and taking the darn dog out every half hour worked for me |
Simon's Mom wrote: Put a bell on the door and teach him to ring when he has to go. That and taking the darn dog out every half hour worked for me
My Tonks learned to ask us to go out, and Luna just went out with her. But since Luna was dependant on Tonsk, she never learned to signal that she needed to go out on her own. Once we figured that out, we got a bell and she learned in about a day how to ring it to go potty. In about 3 days she learned to ring it to go and play, too.
Another advantage to the bell is travel. We bring it with us when we stay in hotels with the dogs. Its a new environment, and the bell is a good way for them to still be able to tell us that they have to go out. |
Darth Snuggle wrote: Once we figured that out, we got a bell and she learned in about a day how to ring it to go potty. In about 3 days she learned to ring it to go and play, too.
Another advantage to the bell is travel. We bring it with us when we stay in hotels with the dogs. Its a new environment, and the bell is a good way for them to still be able to tell us that they have to go out. Tiggy too. She waits till 10 mins after I go to bed then rings the bell. At first I'd get up and take her out and stand out there freezing my butt off for 15 mins. Didnt take me "that" long to figure out she was just wanting some company. So now she goes out with me before I go to bed if nothing happens so be it. And I ignore the bell ringing as I know she can and will hang on all night.
I hadnt thought of taking the bell with me if we travel Alison. Thanks for the tip. |
Simon's Mom wrote: Put a bell on the door and teach him to ring when he has to go. That and taking the darn dog out every half hour worked for me
How do you teach a dog to ring a bell? I'm pretty sure Alfie would just try and eat the thing. |
| I taught Tiggy by holding a little piece of meat in my fingers and letting her sniff it then moving my hand to the bells so that as her nose followed my fingers it would hit the bells.
As soon as there was a ringing sound I would say "ring the bell" and let her eat the meat. We did this over and over for a couple of days until I could just say "ring the bell" and she would nose at it herself for the treat. Then whenever I took her out to go potty I would stop at the door and say "ring the bell to go out" and she'd ring the bell and I'd open the door. She learnt that part pretty quickly and was ringing the bell 20 times a day. |
| Getting them to ring the bell isn't as difficult as getting them NOT to ring it to play outside or to get to the agility tire or tunnel so that they can get a treat!
My bells don't even come out at Christmas! For me it was much easier to stick to routine. Always out after play or a nap. Restrict water during the day and always out a few minutes after they're allowed to drink. You know I don't mean dehydrate them! Just not at free will or you'll be more likely to have failures and less likely to control success. IMHO |
| True.
I taught Tiggy to be judicious but not letting her back in. We have a small courtyard and glass across the back of the house so I can watch her from the kitchen/living room. When she rang the bell too often and was just going out for the fun of it I would just not let her back in. There's a dog bed just outside the door so she would have to go and sit in that and look sad until I decided to let her back in. She rarely abuses the bell anymore. |
| wow, thanks for the tips guys!! I'll have to try that. I do already restrict his water but he still seems to have a river flowing through him. Amazing really! |
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