book recommendation

I think I've recommended Willard Bailey's "Remembering to Breathe - Inside Dog Obedience Competition" before. I'm almost finished with the sequel: "OTCH Dreams - The Agony and Ecstacy of Life with Competition Obedience Dogs" and I love it just as much as I did his first book.

You don't have to be an obedience nut to appreciate what he writes, though it helps to have some basic insight into competitive obedience.

Hankies optional for those of you who fell in love with Honey Bear in the first book <sniff>

Anybody else reading any great dog books they're having a hard time putting down?

Kristine
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No great books in the works. :(
I have been on a kick of mysteries actually, which is a huge switch for me.

I got a gift card from Barnes and Noble for my birthday from my homecare client. I need to decide on something, so I'm adding to the requested reading list as well!
Sunny gave me Control Unleashed by McDevitt and Building Blocks for Performance by Anderson. I am almost through Unleased and it has been very interesting. I plan to start Building Blocks this week. Kristine -I will have to check out the books you are reading... sounds interesting.
Ladies, add anything by Jean Donaldson. I read her "Culture Clash" and "Dogs are from Neptune" years ago and Sunny ( :lol: :lol: ) gave me her newer book, "Oh, behave!" and I loved that too. Flew right through it.

Her emphasis has changed a bit after working with the San Fran SPCA (her common sense, empirical approach to dog behavior, however, has not) making this book an especially good gift, I would think, for friends who are heavily into rescue/have rescue dogs.

Stephanie, Building Blocks is fantastic. Only drawback is you have to fight back the urge to get a puppy in order to try out some of her early ideas. Though, of course, it applies to older puppies as well.

Sunny also gave me "When Pigs Fly" (a book on agility training, not obvious from the name :lol: ) Haven't read that on yet, but will report back as soon as I have.

Kristine
I am just surprised you find time to read so much. Between grooming, classes and practice I find very little time to even get through clean run any more. What's your secret :lmt:

I have to admit, I am discouraged because so much of all I read trying to deal with Marley was so far off the mark and counter productive - I think I am a little jaded. My herding instructor is a dog trainer and agilty instructor as well and we were talking about the issue recently. She said she has found so much redundancy in the name of innovation, she went to a seminar a month or so ago, let's say I forgot with who ( a big name behaviorist) and was just shocked because the bulk of the lecture was not to use a harsh tone (like the eck! so many of us use for a marker for errors) but rather to say "oops" in a positive way.

Seems like the pendulum may be getting ready to swing back.

I have to say, I still have Bones Will Fall From the Sky, to read. And I thought I wanted to read When Pigs Fly - but I read your disclaimer.
I would say Kristine's lack of time spent actually sleeping is the secret, Kerry. :wink:

I too have Bones would rain... to finish, for some reason when I strated it I couldn't get into it. I know Kristine said she was having the same issue w/ Control Unleashed.

Kind of a fun read is Joel Silvermann's What Color Is Your Dog? He came to the Paw on his book tour and I got the book.

Totally OT for OES is the "Little Dogs: training your pint-sized companion" - that was just for me to use with my classes - it's a good book!

The agility book I like best (as a beginner learning rules, regs, difference with the different organizations, etc.,) is Intro to Dog Agility by Margaret Bonham. I had the 1st edition, lost it, now have the 2nd edition.
No disclaimer on When Pigs Fly - I simply haven't gotten to it yet. Hopefully over Christmas.

Only read three books this month: OTCH Dreams, Oh, Behave, and the latest Dick Francis mystery. The rest have been read over the years. I'm pretty amazed when I have time to read too. :lol: :lol:

I never did get through Control Unleashed. I kept falling asleep. 8O :? :lol: Lots of people have loved it though.

I finally read Susan Garrett's The Making Of An Unlikely Champion. Last month. I'd had it for a while. She's an amazing trainer, but I think the fact that she was dealing with a BC puppy, and a hysterical one at that, made it harder for me to connect to the material. Not that there weren't some great training tips woven throughout the book.

I actually connected better with the book about the rescue sheltie who bombed out in agility - it was hysterical. Probably a sad statement of the degree of seriousness with which I view the sport :wink: For the life of me I cannot remember the title. I lent it out, it's been making the rounds, and I don't think I have it back yet...Dawn? I know it's been a while since you read/had it too, but do you recall?

Kristine
Mad Dog wrote:
No disclaimer on When Pigs Fly - I simply haven't gotten to it yet. Hopefully over Christmas.


Kristine


sorry meant Building Blocks - I don't need puppy envy :) :) :) :)
got sheep wrote:
The agility book I like best (as a beginner learning rules, regs, difference with the different organizations, etc.,) is Intro to Dog Agility by Margaret Bonham. I had the 1st edition, lost it, now have the 2nd edition.


I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the OES on the cover??? :sidestep: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Belle's co-owners gave me that book for my birthday one year when I was just starting out.

I loved Clothier's Bones Would Rain, but I will say at times I found it a little too out there in the touchy feely sphere of things. :wink: Though it was refreshing to hear from a breeder, i.e. someone who has lived pack dynamics.

Otherwise, I probably lean more towards authors like Patricia McConnell, who like Donaldson takes a more scholarly approach to understanding dog behavior.

I have a harder time with actual training books (agility, obedience, tracking, forget herding! ) Maybe DVDs are the way to go with these topics and I need to join the 21st century in that regard. But I'm a book worm at heart.

Kristine
I had to look it up, all I could rememnber was Dusty....

Dogged Pursuit: My Year of Competing Dusty, the World's Least Likely Agility Dog

That was a wonderful read! I started reading it aloud to Todd as we were driving home from WI, and he stole it and read it before I could!
I mailed it to Gale, she mailed it to Sunny (that was the plan, anyway), so I think it is back in WI now 8) .
kerry wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
No disclaimer on When Pigs Fly - I simply haven't gotten to it yet. Hopefully over Christmas.


Kristine


sorry meant Building Blocks - I don't need puppy envy :) :) :) :)


Oh, Building Blocks is so VERY dangerous in that regard. 8O Do NOT read it until you've committed to getting a puppy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kristine
Mad Dog wrote:
got sheep wrote:
The agility book I like best (as a beginner learning rules, regs, difference with the different organizations, etc.,) is Intro to Dog Agility by Margaret Bonham. I had the 1st edition, lost it, now have the 2nd edition.


I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the OES on the cover??? :sidestep: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That did catch my eye, but it is still good, I like it even with the miserable little beagle :wink: on the cover in the 2nd edition!

Belle's co-owners gave me that book for my birthday one year when I was just starting out.

I loved Clothier's Bones Would Rain, but I will say at times I found it a little too out there in the touchy feely sphere of things. :wink: Though it was refreshing to hear from a breeder, i.e. someone who has lived pack dynamics.

Kristine


It was a little "out there" for me too - like a novel disguised as education. Not bad, but it did the "put me to sleep" thing a time too many, so it's on the book shelf at the moment.
got sheep wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
got sheep wrote:
The agility book I like best (as a beginner learning rules, regs, difference with the different organizations, etc.,) is Intro to Dog Agility by Margaret Bonham. I had the 1st edition, lost it, now have the 2nd edition.


I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the OES on the cover??? :sidestep: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That did catch my eye, but it is still good, I like it even with the miserable little beagle :wink: on the cover in the 2nd edition!

Belle's co-owners gave me that book for my birthday one year when I was just starting out.

I loved Clothier's Bones Would Rain, but I will say at times I found it a little too out there in the touchy feely sphere of things. :wink: Though it was refreshing to hear from a breeder, i.e. someone who has lived pack dynamics.

Kristine


It was a little "out there" for me too - like a novel disguised as education. Not bad, but it did the "put me to sleep" thing a time too many, so it's on the book shelf at the moment.


Guys!!! I didn't need to hear that - mine has been on my bookshelf for almost two years, ever since Marley did a guest spot as a case study at one of her seminars - she is an amazing speaker. Now I am losing my reserve to read it this winter.

And I have that intro to agility book too - first one I ever bought and I used the cover to prove to Dan that yes those hairy things could do agility :wink:

As far as DVD's I think they are invaluable, if expensive tools for agility. I love love love my foundations DVD. But they can't compare to curling up on the couch with the dogs and good book :wink: :wink:
kerry wrote:
As far as DVD's I think they are invaluable, if expensive tools for agility. I love love love my foundations DVD. But they can't compare to curling up on the couch with the dogs and good book :wink: :wink:


And that's the problem. :wink:

As for expense, my training club has a nice library so I could sign various DVDs out instead of forking over a small fortune on something I may or may not find useful, and yet I never check anything out. I really should.

Dawn - thank's for the Dusty update. If Sunny does indeed have it, I have her baby dog in custody so can hold her hostage till I get it back. I feel the need to laugh!

What did you like about Silverman's book?

KB
Mad Dog wrote:
kerry wrote:
As far as DVD's I think they are invaluable, if expensive tools for agility. I love love love my foundations DVD. But they can't compare to curling up on the couch with the dogs and good book :wink: :wink:


And that's the problem. :wink:

As for expense, my training club has a nice library so I could sign various DVDs out instead of forking over a small fortune on something I may or may not find useful, and yet I never check anything out. I really should.

Dawn - thank's for the Dusty update. If Sunny does indeed have it, I have her baby dog in custody so can hold her hostage till I get it back. I feel the need to laugh!

What did you like about Silverman's book?

KB


I wish I had DVD access "library style" although I would probably not get around to actually doing it too - I like to read better!

Silverman's book - it breaks the dog personalities down into 5 main groups and then explains the best way to approach training each.
Red is off the wall, orange is high strung, yellow is mellow, green is timid and blue is overly frearful.
He isn't advocating one particular style, instead gives recommendations for the best way to get positive results based on the way your dog/puppy is.
Also points out that the dogs that start out on either extreme need a different approach as they get closer to the ideal "mellow yellow". And, the ideal "yellow" actually isn't the ideal dog for every person or every purpose. He trains dogs for movies, TV, commercials and different dogs are better suited for different purposes.
He also addresses different training modes - buckle collar, clicker, pinch, choke collars - where they are best used and in what situations.
It seems like it may be over simplified (that was actually my thought at 1st - I went because it was right at the Paw and free! :wink: ), but then I found I actually liked his approach to dogs of any personality. In person he's a real dog lover and has a totally down to earth approach to dogs. He takes what they are and helps people work with the dog thay have , and hopefully they can get the dog they want or need.
I found it good even as an experienced person and I know it would be good or invaluable for people who are inexperienced and struggling/frustrated with their dog.

Want me to send it, kristine? 8)
If I post first will you send it to me :twisted:

Sounds great - I think I'll have to read that instead of bones from the sky :wink:
kerry wrote:
If I post first will you send it to me :twisted:

Sounds great - I think I'll have to read that instead of bones from the sky :wink:



LOL ok, I'll set the egg timer......
Yes, she who post first has first dibs :lol: :lol: :lol:

I still have a few books to get through, so that works out fine.

KB
OK, you can get it on the way home....

PS - did you pick Dazzle's name? I had a question on the thread still....
got sheep wrote:
OK, you can get it on the way home....

PS - did you pick Dazzle's name? I had a question on the thread still....


I'm avoiding anything that requires more than minimal thought process till lunch time :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: , so will return to that thread, but short answer is no, no ILP name chosen yet. And, yes, Madness is the first part of the name. The rest if up in the air.

Unless you came up with something so brilliant it cannot be ignored? :wink:

I like the idea of ILP'd dogs having a "Kennel Name" of sorts. Like Jan's Salty Dawg's Sadie etc etc. Very cute!

Kristine
got sheep wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
kerry wrote:
As far as DVD's I think they are invaluable, if expensive tools for agility. I love love love my foundations DVD. But they can't compare to curling up on the couch with the dogs and good book :wink: :wink:


And that's the problem. :wink:

As for expense, my training club has a nice library so I could sign various DVDs out instead of forking over a small fortune on something I may or may not find useful, and yet I never check anything out. I really should.

Dawn - thank's for the Dusty update. If Sunny does indeed have it, I have her baby dog in custody so can hold her hostage till I get it back. I feel the need to laugh!

What did you like about Silverman's book?

KB


I wish I had DVD access "library style" although I would probably not get around to actually doing it too - I like to read better!

Silverman's book - it breaks the dog personalities down into 5 main groups and then explains the best way to approach training each.
Red is off the wall, orange is high strung, yellow is mellow, green is timid and blue is overly frearful.
He isn't advocating one particular style, instead gives recommendations for the best way to get positive results based on the way your dog/puppy is.
Also points out that the dogs that start out on either extreme need a different approach as they get closer to the ideal "mellow yellow". And, the ideal "yellow" actually isn't the ideal dog for every person or every purpose. He trains dogs for movies, TV, commercials and different dogs are better suited for different purposes.
He also addresses different training modes - buckle collar, clicker, pinch, choke collars - where they are best used and in what situations.
It seems like it may be over simplified (that was actually my thought at 1st - I went because it was right at the Paw and free! :wink: ), but then I found I actually liked his approach to dogs of any personality. In person he's a real dog lover and has a totally down to earth approach to dogs. He takes what they are and helps people work with the dog thay have , and hopefully they can get the dog they want or need.
I found it good even as an experienced person and I know it would be good or invaluable for people who are inexperienced and struggling/frustrated with their dog.

Want me to send it, kristine? 8)


Do you think this book would be somehting I should look at for Paislee?
I see your point - we use the Alice Acres like that - Simon is Alice Acres Simon Says RE.
If I ever get Riley's ILP/PAL pictures taken he is going to be Alice Acres Life of Riley. Todd's idea - he maintains all dogs "live the life of Riley" at our house... :wink:
Yes, I'm still working on it.....
Stephanie - I can send it to you too..... :wink:
got sheep wrote:
Stephanie - I can send it to you too..... :wink:


Please put me on the list :D
sneakysheepie wrote:
got sheep wrote:
Stephanie - I can send it to you too..... :wink:


Please put me on the list :D


OK :D

Kerry - if you really want it sent, PM me your address.
Then you mail it to Kristine, Kristine mails to Stephanie :wink:
The OES.ORG book exchange??? 8O :lol: :lol: :lol:

KB
Mad Dog wrote:
The OES.ORG book exchange??? 8O :lol: :lol: :lol:

KB


Now we just need to set one up for videos... oesflix?
Mad Dog wrote:
The OES.ORG book exchange??? 8O :lol: :lol: :lol:

KB


It's in the mail to Kerry. :D

Like musical tag maybe? what one's coming to me? :wink:
got sheep wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
The OES.ORG book exchange??? 8O :lol: :lol: :lol:

KB


It's in the mail to Kerry. :D

Like musical tag maybe? what one's coming to me? :wink:


Not agility related - but I just finished Phillipa Gregory's new one - the White Queen. I have to send it to my sister - but it is yours when she is done if you want.
sneakysheepie wrote:
got sheep wrote:
Mad Dog wrote:
The OES.ORG book exchange??? 8O :lol: :lol: :lol:

KB


It's in the mail to Kerry. :D

Like musical tag maybe? what one's coming to me? :wink:


Not agility related - but I just finished Phillipa Gregory's new one - the White Queen. I have to send it to my sister - but it is yours when she is done if you want.



Oh YES!!! I would love it. I got the 3rd one from the Josephine B series from the library, and I just started it at work. :D
Kerry - how's the book going? I had totally forgotten this discussion. I was looking it up (the thread) to add another book. :roll:

I started a new one, suggested by a friend. It is not new - 1994. Winterdance, by Gary Paulsen. Subtitled The Fine Madness of Running The Iditarod.

I am only on the 2nd chapter, but it is quite good. Obviously about sled dogs, but also very much about the bond and relationship between a man and his dogs. Very well written and totally sucking me in. :D
I work today and all weekend 12 hr shifts, so I should have it done soon.
Update on Winterdance - it is a hoot! and very profound at the same time.
If you have read Dusty the agility dog, you will like this one just as much!
got sheep wrote:
Update on Winterdance - it is a hoot! and very profound at the same time.
If you have read Dusty the agility dog, you will like this one just as much!


ME!ME!ME NEXT!!!!!!!!!!! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Kristine
Mad Dog wrote:
got sheep wrote:
Update on Winterdance - it is a hoot! and very profound at the same time.
If you have read Dusty the agility dog, you will like this one just as much!


ME!ME!ME NEXT!!!!!!!!!!! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Kristine


OK, I'll send it off as soon as I get done. I'm on page 95 of 296, so I should finish it off easily in the next day or so. It can go out in Monday's mail. :D
Oh, thank you!!!! Now that life isn't quite so insane and I have time to read again I need a good fix.

I did find two issues of Front & Finish I had missed, piled them up, waiting to be read later. As I'm catching up I noted with great sadness that our obedience judge from the '07 national - Mr Charles (Chuck) Bush passed away last year. :(

Gale heartily recommended him and as obed chair I had the incredible good fortune for all of us of him agreeing to judge for us that year. What a nice, nice man! And I'm not just saying that because he didn't hit us heavily with the pen during Belle's disobedience in Veterans :wink:

(one of several such incidents depicted below, as she rips my armband off as we're setting up for the next exercise :oops: :wink: )

Image

He was just so warm, and kind and supportive and FUNNY. For the first time in my life I really felt jazzed up about obedience, which has always played second fiddle to agility when it comes to my priorities, and I so hoped I'd get the opportunity to show to him again some day. He was just the kindest judge I have ever met in any discipline and so dedicated to the sport :bow:

Kristine
I agree, he was a super judge and just a real nice guy. That is sad news indeed. :(
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