My wife and I just bought an Old English Sheep dog last week, the cuteset dog ever. But have a hugh problem with peeing. Just last night he went 7 times in the matter of 10 minutes in our house. Th living room, kitchen and hall way. And than he went in the middle of the night on the couch. He is 7 weeks old. And were great on letting him out but I mean we cant ever 5 minutes. Is this normal or how do we fix this. I love th dog, but this might cancel eveything I need help, Thanks |
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HI and welcome.
Seven weeks is awful young - most dogs don't leave their breeder until at least 8 weeks old. I have no experience with a dog that young, but assuming he has had a thorough vet check, and there was no UTI found, I would assume its a function of his age? I am sure some with breeding experience on this forum can tell you more accurately. |
Seven times in 10 minutes sounds like more than "just peeing." There is nervous peeing and there is peeing due to a bladder problem. Seven weeks is very young. Most folks prefer to wait to get their pup until they are a few weeks older allowing not only the urinary tract time to mature but also the psychological parts of pups to develop too.
I suspect your pup is overwhelmed by the new situation, missing it's mum and litter mates all the while still a baby! Your statement that this peeing might be a deal breaker is also disconcerting. Are you truly ready for the mental toughness it takes to raise a pup and especially a sheepdog and still deal with the gromming needs? This is not a first timer pup.......but many of us did start with OES as nobody could talk us out of the breed. First you need to set limitation for the pup, confine to area where the pee will not cause problems. Basically Housebreaking 101, too long to discuss here. Then you need to reduce the stress in your pup, keep the environment stress free.....no wild parties, limit newcomers coming to see the baby, etc until your pup is comfortable with you. Then gradually enlarge their environment. No dog parks, etc as the immune system is too weak to stand the onslaught of other dogs' diseases. Also no other dogs...friends' dogs, cats, children for awhile. mainly take a deep breath and realize you have almost a newborn on your hands and it takes time .......house training can take months in some dogs. |
Congratulations!!! Welcome to the forum.
PUPPY!!!!! But..... 7 weeks! At the very least you're going to need to give the puppy some time to mature and to hold it. In the meantime, put the puppy in a place that is washable and where pee won't ruin anything. |
Congrats on your new puppy!
I'm sure you didn't know this but it's best for OES puppies to stay with mom AND the littermates until they are a minimum of 8 weeks of age. The youngest OES I've brought in was 9 weeks... this age made housetraining even easier. And your 7 week old pup will now miss out on important lessons from mom and littermates... lessons only they can teach. Did the mother die or did the breeder just send puppies out this young? As mentioned, you need to make sure there aren't any medical problems causing the frequent urination. Puppies this age simply pee when they have to. Quote: Th living room, kitchen and hall way. Another thing to consider is that he shouldn't be given free run of the house. Supervise him in only one room that's tiled and has been puppy proofed (no electrical cords that he can get, nothing that would harm him). As he gets a little older, he can have more freedom but only while being supervised. As he becomes more reliable, he can have some unsupervised access. Quote: And than he went in the middle of the night on the couch.
Was he sleeping with someone on the couch? I'd recommend you get a crate and begin crate training him. Also, contact a good humane trainer in your area now so you can begin this new and exciting journey with the best chance for success. It's always best to do things right the first time with a new puppy rather than having to go back and try to correct mistakes. |
6Girls wrote: Another thing to consider is that he shouldn't be given free run of the house. Supervise him in only one room that's tiled and has been puppy proofed (no electrical cords that he can get, nothing that would harm him). As he gets a little older, he can have more freedom but only while being supervised. As he becomes more reliable, he can have some unsupervised access.
Quote: And than he went in the middle of the night on the couch. Was he sleeping with someone on the couch? I'd recommend you get a crate and begin crate training him. Also, contact a good humane trainer in your area now so you can begin this new and exciting journey with the best chance for success. It's always best to do things right the first time with a new puppy rather than having to go back and try to correct mistakes. All excellent points!! and i love your new avatar - great jacket!! |
She always has the best avatars!! I tell her she needs to post pics more.
Welcome to the forum, and I hope you find your answer. The first 2 yrs of having a puppy are always miserable for me, but it gets better. |
When I got my pups; they were 5 days apart in age; so one was 8 weeks the other 7. They came from the same breeder, and we saw some issues with how she was keeping them, in terms of hygiene, and we decided to pull them early.
When we got ours girls home, they too were peeing ALOT. I thought it was just what puppies do; the puppy books all state that your new puppy is going to pee ALL the time. Just finished playing? Take them out to pee. Drink of water? Take them out to pee. Eat a bowl of food? Take them out to pee. Just had a nap? Take them out to pee. LITERALLY at this age, after EVERY activity, take them out to pee. So when my guys were going all the time, I thought it normal. It took us about a week to begin thinking something might be wrong, and we took them to the vet. Turns out both had VERY advanced urinary tract infections, most likely from the filthy conditions they were being kept in at the breeders. I'd say first order of business; take your pup to the vet. After that pick up a decent, covers all the bases puppy book like (as silly as it sounds) Puppies for Dummies. That book was invaluable to us; it was the one that helped us with the "peeing after every activity" stage. Also; my pups didn't get "privileges" like being in the living room (let alone on the couch) until they were almost 4 months old, and MUCH better about their house breaking. We kept them in the kitchen most of the time, so it was easier to clean up after. I had a blanket I'd keep on the floor for them, and I know there were some days I washed that blanket up to 8 times. Ultimately? Puppies pee. They pee alot, and they pee all the time. Their digestive systems; stomachs, bladders, etc, are still developing, as are the muscles they use to control all that stuff. You are going to have to be patient. All the books (seriously, get a book) warn you that its completely normal for a puppy to not be 100% house broken until 6 months of age. This means that your pup may have accidents up until then. One of mine was housebroken by 6 months, one took to 10 months. I'm sorry if the peeing may be a good reason to not want your puppy. Will your breeder take it back? If not, and you decide to not keep your pup, please let us help direct you to the Sheepdog rescue coordinator in your area. Often times they have lists of people waiting to rescue a dog, especially a young one. Perhaps an adult rescue dog, one that is past the age of needing to be house broken, is more appropriate for your situation. Good luck! I hope we can help you more, and I can't stress this enough; get a book! They can be so helpful when unexpected things crop up! ~Allison |
What's the puppy's name?? Once again I forgot to ask important questions: name, sex........and where are the pictures?? OK, pictures can wait a bit.
Do have the little squirt checked for UTI...bladder infection or ? just to start with knowledge health is not a concern. |
Thanks for all the help, his name is Charlie, he's a male and were going to work with it for a while here. We need to do like what everyone said and keep him in one room or so with Tile. |
charlie11 wrote: Thanks for all the help, his name is Charlie, he's a male and were going to work with it for a while here. We need to do like what everyone said and keep him in one room or so with Tile.
TOTALLY. There's going to be damage, no two ways about it. So minimize it by minimizing his access to the house. And try crate training. I thought it was cruel to cage your dog, but the more I read on the subject, the more I understood what it was and how beneficial it can be. To this day my girls will go and sit in their crate; its a sort of safe and comfy place for them. And it has magic house-breaking properties. |
You may want to pick up the book "My Smart Puppy" by Brian Kilcommons & Sarah Wilson. Also authors of "Good Owners, Great Dogs". This will give you some great information to train your puppy to be a good family member. |
Beyond needing to know if it has a UTI....we found restricting water to be very helpful. Some will say that this is unacceptable but it was the only solution we could come up with.
At 7 weeks we limited water to a long drink to every hour and then out to pee in 10 minutes. If you come in and the puppy didn't pee then out again every five minutes until it pees. Wait 20 minutes for after food and start the same process. At 8:00 we picked up all water and only left down some ice chips until 9:00. Last pee at 9:30 and into the crate for bedtime. Water immediately upon getting up in the morning. And start the process again. Most say to add an hour to every month of age the puppy has. So a 7 week old can hold it's bladder for about an hourish. This is why you need to take the puppy out at night to pee at least two if not three times at this age (that's with adding in withholding water!) Every week and month that the puppy gets older it gets better. Hang in there |
OMG! I am having the same problem. I will tell you mine had tape worms and UTI infection. He came to me at 8 weeks. I have a crate in kitchen and one in bedroom. I am very exhausted. We have 6 inches on snow right now and it's cold. I am outside more than inside. I sit in my kitchen most of the day and night to train him so I know how you feel.
He is now 10 weeks and completed the antibotics. Going to vet for recheck on Fri. I have 2 cats and 2 malteese, one that's 2.5 and one that's 11lbs! I have raised aloth of dogs including oes that I had for 15 years, I lost her last year so I thought I was ready for a new one. I am hoping he is ok when we go to vet. I would definately take your pup to vet and check bladder and kidneys and UTI infection. Most of all DO NOT EVER GET ANGRY. It is not the dogs fault. It is going to take awhile. Believe me I really do know what you are feeling. |
I go with the UTI or bladder infection. Or...was he recently vacinated? My pup, all be it she was about 10 weeks, had a small raction to some shots she got and started peeing and acting wierd. Ended up it was a little reaction, too much medication at one time and a slight UTI...
Have patience with this little baby. Pups have no control and do not even get the urge to pee ( they just go) until at least 12 to 16 weeks old. Kppe him in an area where he can be with you but on a floor surface you don't mind wiping up., I took my new babiies out constantly and always remember to give a little treat the minute they go outside. You migh also want to rstict the water intake about an hour e fore bedtime only -. Don't stop giving water during the ay hopin they will pee less but at night befor bed, its okay to limit the water intake. And be sure to feed at about the same time. You'll get pup on a rountine and it will be easier for you to know when they need to go. we actually kept a log book...And please don't take this the wriong way but please please do not hit or scold the pup if he goes in the house. he's way too young to understand it will make matters worse...Keep us posted. we've all been there! |
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