beginners herding effort - video (OES)
 ) I put the video of Belle's first JHD leg together (with endless help from Dennis Maier, without whom it wouldn't have happened).
He put it up on the performance site for me. Try to remember to have your sound on for full effects... 
http://www.performanceoes.com/herding.html and scroll down a little bit. Almost finished the second one. Can you say OBSESSION with new software??? 
<yawn> 'night! Kristine |
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| Very cool!!!!
Well done Belle and Kristine.
Was that pepperoni et al?? |
| Thank you for sharing Belle's herding experience with us. It was so cool. It is amazing how much energy that girl has at 12. Hugs to Belle. |
| Oh so cool! Isn't it neat to watch them turn on to critters! It's like they are saying "See! See! This is what I was bred to do!". I get the chills when I watch herding. I remember taking Isaac at almost 10 years just for a herding instinct test....just for the fun of it. I figured I was wasting my $$$ as he seemed to be my resident couch potato. He walked into the arena & it was like he was a different dog! He knew exactly what to do & you could just see the happiness in his movement & expression.
Can't wait to see the next one! Keep them coming! |
Mim wrote: Very cool!!!!
Well done Belle and Kristine. Was that pepperoni et al?? Pepperoni et al are on the next video...Belle's second leg. Which was so chaotic I'm truly shocked we passed. But the goats were given the liion's share of the blame. so we were given the benefit of the doubt
In fairness, though I jokingly gave those three goats the names Baloney, Salami and Pepperoni (nice recall, Mim! ), they were challenging, yes, but not deserving of that kind of nomenclature abuse The true Pepperoni - so named by my instructor - was not used in the test classes as he has learned to run like a bat out of #### and jump ON TOP of the fence, taunt the dog for a brief moment, and then depart to greener pastures where there are no dogs. He was in the set of goats I worked with Sybil this past week and she almost flipped out when he pulled that stunt with her and the fence prevented her from following him.
I think the next video will be up later today. Only two of the goats were truly problematic. Goats don't typically flock as well as sheep, meaning they are more apt to run off (and even sneak off) and do their own thing. Also, another trait you take advantage of with really dog broke stock beginners stock is that they tend to view the handler as safety and naturally stick to her. Some of Shannon's goats follow that protocol. Others just make a break for it. You can see the former in this first video, with Belle and I both owing the little goat an apology. Only one was truly like that in the video to follow, which added to the chaos. Plus Belle was really over the top. On the plus side goats are generally slower than sheep, which is nice when you're almost 12 and not as fast as you used to be. And generally heavier (not as flighty/apt to run easily from a dog)than comprable sheep, which is nice when you're really pushy like some old lady dogs, I mention no names 
Note that the dog is not supposed to circle endlessly like that (you start out circling in both directions to teach the dog certain things) but we had just started doing walk abouts (such as they are ) within the past couple of weeks before the trials/test so Belle was confused and my timing was lousy (at times I didn't even try to push her back, other times I was late or ineffective etc) My timing still is lousy, it's part of what you work on. So I have people tape my lessons as well as I find watching them helps me figure out what I'm supposed to be doing. As a result I'm sure experienced herding people will watch these videos and cringe.  But for our first efforts it wasn't terrible. And for a dog who just came out of retirement this summer and who is pushing twelve, well, I will treasure them always. What we lack in finesse we make up for in enthusiasm, I guess.
I figure if I made the videos fun to watch people who've never considered trying herding might consider it. And, Marilyn, yes, it (still) absolutely gives me chills to watch an OES turn on to stock. There is something so right about that picture, it just leaves me in awe. Kristine |
| Incredible. Awesome watching a family dog "doing what they were bred to do." |
| Very nice, Kristine.
Belle certainly is the happy girl out there.....the endless loops and circles with all that happiness! I see she got in a few digs too, snitching one out of the group...LOL
Very nice stop so you could pen the goats!
Give Belle some hugs!! |
| Just watched the second clip.
The goat with lots of white looks like it was sticking with you for protection Kristine. The brown goat on the other hand was just EVIL,  pure and simple. He/she was not interested in being part of a group at all. It certainly gave Belle a run for her money. She seemed to be enjoying herself though. |
Oh my  
It brought tears to my eyes - the two of you look so happy. Maybe they were tears of frustration - we did have a lesson today  |
Mim wrote: Just watched the second clip.
The goat with lots of white looks like it was sticking with you for protection Kristine. The brown goat on the other hand was just EVIL, pure and simple. He/she was not interested in being part of a group at all. It certainly gave Belle a run for her money. She seemed to be enjoying herself though. Yes, goats are prone towards evil Belle always has a blast no matter what. And the one goat's faith in my ability to keep her safe was quite touching
Kristine |
kerry wrote: Oh my
It brought tears to my eyes - the two of you look so happy. Maybe they were tears of frustration - we did have a lesson today Oh. Your lessons must be something akin to my lessons with Sybil. I usually end up calling Dawn on the way home and talking through my frustration with her 
Maybe she needs to set up a herding lesson hotline?
It was pretty special. She's just so happy to be out there. It would be nice if I had a clue what I was doing, but maybe some day. As you well know, it's hard for the human part of the team. Dog has an agenda. Stock has an agenda. Human tries not to get trampled by either agenda
Glad the weather is holding for you!
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: Glad the weather is holding for you!
Kristine Well, officially it was our last class of the season, but if the weather continues we may sneak in a few more - in between trials and other scheduled activities. I just hope we have as many years to play together as you and Belle  |
| It IS amazing to watch THEM do what they were bred to do!! That lightbulb goes on and it's majic!!!!!
Congratulations to both you and Sybil!!!!!! |
| Haha! Wonderful!!! |
| I thought it was so great esp that your dog can calmly wait to be led to the sheep. What a great job!! |
Joahaeyo wrote: I thought it was so great esp that your dog can calmly wait to be led to the sheep.
What a great job!!Calmy after quite a few, yes you will sit and I'm not GIVING you the stock until you do at the gate. She still pulled a bit, but you pick your battles. Up until that point I didn't even have a stop on her so it was the stand at the end of both runs that pleasantly surprised me
Previously I've been known to resort to a literally flying tackle to make her stop. Something tells me the judges would have been somewhat less than impressed.
Any chance of Yuki getting back out there? Kristine |
| I love it....you gals look great.
I am with Kerry, brought tears to my eyes too!! |
Mad Dog wrote: Joahaeyo wrote: I thought it was so great esp that your dog can calmly wait to be led to the sheep. What a great job!!Calmy after quite a few, yes you will sit and I'm not GIVING you the stock until you do at the gate. She still pulled a bit, but you pick your battles. Up until that point I didn't even have a stop on her so it was the stand at the end of both runs that pleasantly surprised me Previously I've been known to resort to a literally flying tackle to make her stop. Something tells me the judges would have been somewhat less than impressed. Any chance of Yuki getting back out there? Kristine Well when we recover from jillybean's hospital bill, property taxes, and christmas... ...I'm sure we will try going again, but I don't think regularly  It's just too expensive for the short time we spend w/the sheep. We'll see!  |
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