I have a Pant pulling, ankle grabbing but bitting problem
Been a while since I had a puppy I remember my Border Collie being really mouthy but this guys is none stop. We give him plenty of toys and stuff animals to gnaw on but he is always prefers our hands or ankles. We try to replace our hand with toy and or give him an ah ah! when he gets to rough. Help how do we keep Jaws under control  |
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| Hi. A lot of us here have been through the very same thing! Here is one thread you can read, and you also can search the site for biting or nipping and retrieve a lot more.
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=26451 I've had a lot of pups, too, but never one as bitey as our OES, Winnie, when she was young. Thankfully, with a lot of patience and guidance of the good folks on this forum, we made it through and she eventually out grew it. One thing for sure - you have to teach bite inhibition EARLY! |
| And here is another good thread:
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=10086 |
Yup, you have yourself a perfectly normal OES puppy! You just have to be consistent in bite inhibition and ride it out. Don't let the kid get too close without serious supervision because the puppy will nip the kid. It sounds like you're doing the right things, give it a few years and the pup should be mostly over it.  |
| subject: I have a Pant pulling, ankle grabbing but bitting problem
So, apparently, do I. And she's almost nine years old! I was working with her in obedience (some irony there, I'm sure  ) this afternoon. I release her periodically and play with her - no toys, she literally likes to play with me; I quick dodge, she chases and bounces. Well, all of sudden she went down for an ankle nip! Only grabbed my pants a little. As I was contemplating that, she leaped up and grabbed my sleeve. 
I laughed. It's a lot funnier in a senior dog. Her mother is the same way. Her last time in the obedience ring, in veterans obedience (!!!), she leaped up and ripped the armband off my arm: 
She was almost ten years old at the time. 
Not trying to scare you. Though they can be little sharks as puppies, you will survive and it will abate. Just cautioning that it can reappear out of the blue at any age  But in those cases it's just a fleeting and oddly amusing and welcome diversion
Kristine |
| And another good tip from folks here: DO NOT RUN with your OES puppy. Their herding instinct (which is the source of most of the nipping - you must be herded you know) is more pronounced when you run. And advise your 2 year old not to run, especially!
My hubby's previous OES would grab children by their pants if she thought they were playing too rough, or going "outside" the herd. And everyone here will think I am a broken record, but please make sure the puppy gets enough rest/sleep. We realized late that ours really needed a LOT of sleep - as much as 16 hours a day in the early months. Winnie was far more nippy and bitey when she was tired.
As much as we wanted to play with her all the time (they are TOO cute and fun), we slowly came to understand our puppy needed far more rest than we were giving her, thus exacerbating her instinctive, nippy behavior. |
| Thanks everyone for the infos. I guess I need to figure out what works for us. I can't get it through to my 4 year and 2 year not to run from puppy. The think it is a came. The only problem is that Harry can now catch them. I have to keep from laughing when harry got one by the butt |
gdub16 wrote: Thanks everyone for the infos. I guess I need to figure out what works for us. I can't get it through to my 4 year and 2 year not to run from puppy. The think it is a came. The only problem is that Harry can now catch them. I have to keep from laughing when harry got one by the butt
All the above advice is very good. And with kids.....sometimes actions speak louder than words It will get the point across quicker than all the "lecturing" oin the world. |
kayc1218 wrote: One thing for sure - you have to teach bite inhibition EARLY!
So true! With every behavior, you have to think "will this be cute once he/she is 80 pounds?" It'll get better, just be consistent, patient and persevere! |
| our trainer tells us that if your pup nips and bits take him her out of the room into isolation. leave him till he is quiet for 10 seconds then let him back in. its a bit intensive but does work |
| You got a lot of good advise about the biting inhibition. But you shouldn't expect it to go away completel, mine is 4 years old, she competes in agility and rally and we train in herding and probably something I can't remember and Monday night at agility class she was jumping up in th eair to nip at me when I was trying to listen to my instructor - "hey, why did we stop, what's with you I want to play!!!"
Mostly now its not an issue but both of my OES love ot play catch and can get over excited when doing so. If they do I stop, but them in a sit or a down and let them collect themselves.
And a pet peeve of mine - - running after you when you run is reactivity (not herding) and of course shouldn't be encouraged in a puppy except under controlled settings AND NEVER WITH CHILDREN. |
| Bax is now 14 months old and when he wants to play, I get the little nip on the behind. His biting has really abated, but like others here, I don't think they stop it completely. But the nip on the backside is definitely my cue for either walk time or play time. He's generally pretty calm before the nip but he certainly lets me know what time it is !!! |
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