Best comb or brush to keep coat from matting ?

My beautiful OES named Remy has to be cut, or usually shaved by the groomer because she is too badly matted in certain body areas, usually the top of her back legs because she sits there, under her collar and the underside of her body. I'm to blame as I don't brush her enough, and would like to know the proper tool to use, currently I use a rake style comb as it is the only tool that goes through her coat. I would like to have her coat longer. what should I do?

Peter.
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If you aren't concerned about undercoat, a large tooth comb works really well. the official tools are pin brushes and slickers.

I use an undercoat rake on my boy in short coat and primarily the pin brush on my coated girl (almost fully coated :wink: ) I brush him once every couple of weeks, I brush her once every couple of days :(

Best thig to do? Lose the collar when ever you can and ask the goomer to shave under the belly and at the joint of the legs (reduces matting)
I do exactly what Kerry says; Tonks is just not good about being brushed, though Luna loves it. So I have the groomer shave stomachs and armpits. I recently stopped keeping their collars on all the time; and its made a really big difference as well.

I have a great brush from Chris Christensen that Tonks doesn't seem to mind. I know its not the best brush to get the job done, but Tonks tolerates it so I think its a step in the right direction. I always start my full grooming with this; I do a brush through first; sort of a once over and then move on to de-matting and slickering. Additionally; I try and use it to brush them through once a day, before bed. This si something new I've been trying; it goes pretty quickly, and I think its helping.

http://www.chrissystems.com/brushes.htm

It's the wooden pin brush at the top of the page. I was actually at a groomers show, and Chris Christensen had a booth set up. I was able to talk to a rep, and they helped me pick a brush that would not only work on the girls coats, but also be more tolerable to Tonks. She's sensitive, and really hates the slicker. Now, I think its probably impossible to not use the slicker at all; I've found its the best tool for working through the mats (along with a mat breaker). But if I can work through some of the tangles with a brush or comb first, Tonks lets me get more done.

Another unconventional tool I like to use is a comb called "the Untangler"; it has rotating tines and seems to get snagged less while still pulling through the coat and tangles pretty well. Also; while its not the magical cure we all wish it was; detangling sprays definitely can be of assistance.

If you look through my photo gallery, you'll see Tonks and Luna are far from the best groomed dogs on the board. I too struggle with mats, but I only do one shave down a year, and that's for the summer due to the heat. My girls are still transitioning from their puppy coats, so people tell me its going to get easier with time. I'm determined to have nice looking, full coated dogs one day.
Thanks for the replies, but my wife took Remy to the groomers yesterday and she got shaved down all over except her ears, she looks like a Poodle and she had bows in her ears, really cute but I want my old Remy back. I promise to brush her daily when her coat grows back.
I'll post pictures when I take them.
get a good pin brush while her coat is short, and start doing brush throughs NOW. That way, when the coat is longer, she'll be accustomed to it, and maybe won't shy away as much when you start to encounter mats!
The coat will grow back fast so don't worry. I use the Chris Christensen long pin brush, make sure you get one with STRAIGHT pins ie NO HEADS on them because that will just tear the hairs. I find the extra long pins brilliant, quite honestly, it's worth paying for a good brush. I brush Rufus twice a week and my brush has lasted a year and is still going strong with all the pins in place. I'm glad I paid out for a good brush.
Hint of Mischief wrote:
The coat will grow back fast so don't worry. I use the Chris Christensen long pin brush, make sure you get one with STRAIGHT pins ie NO HEADS on them because that will just tear the hairs. I find the extra long pins brilliant, quite honestly, it's worth paying for a good brush. I brush Rufus twice a week and my brush has lasted a year and is still going strong with all the pins in place. I'm glad I paid out for a good brush.


I was looking at getting that one; but got confused when I saw all the choices. Which metal is the one you have? I still owe the girls a birthday present, and maybe I'll mail order one! My wooden pin brush from them is great; and its also in perfect condition a year after I bought it.
I've added a couple of pics of Remy showing how the groomer Poodlized my beautiful Sheepie, minus the bows in her ears of course, she couldn't wait to get them off.
Like everyone said start now while the coat is short to get Remy used to being brushed.
Also keep the sessions short at first and hand out a favorite treat when you're finished. Tiggy knows she has to lie still while I brush her in order to get the treat at the end. If she gets up before I'm done I make her lie down and do just 5 more minutes then take her down and treat her.
She's funny now as soon as I lift her down she runs and sits at the pantry door waiting for her favorite cookie. :lol:
This is a British site, you can probably find cheaper ones in the US, but I have this brush 94470 NEW Chris Christensen Oval Gold Pin Brush 27mm which is about the 12th one down the page. Go with what you feel best with though!

Petcetera etc pin brushes
Hint of Mischief wrote:
This is a British site, you can probably find cheaper ones in the US, but I have this brush 94470 NEW Chris Christensen Oval Gold Pin Brush 27mm which is about the 12th one down the page. Go with what you feel best with though!

Petcetera etc pin brushes


oh no... Ru looks really great! I'm buying what you've got!!!! :D
I can mail order the Chris Christensen stuff from these guys! I'm out of some of my preferred shampoos and need to place an order anyway!

http://www.cherrybrook.com/index.cfm/a/ ... hristensen
Holy cow! you weren't kidding about the price. They didn't even convert it; just swapped out a Dollar sign for a Pound one!!!!
There is a US site that people on here use.. but I can't remember what it is :roll:

I would think most of the sites carry the same range though :D
I also attended a Chris Christensen grooming seminar with Eric and boy do I LOVE the wooden pin brush! Another hint.....the Chris Christensen Ice on Ice is an amazing grooming spray that helps remove any mats and repels dirt. I always use it when line brushing my show dogs and it really helps keep the coat healthy. I also purchased the Christensen Cool Dry dryer and I love it!
I was at the same seminar as Amber and learned this: buy the correct pin brush for the job you are doing. Many of the CC pin brushes are for finishing only and using them for line grooming bends the pins . I and many others at the seminar learned this the hard way :evil: . I do love the wooden pin brush, perfect for me since I'm hard on brushes. And when Amber isn't looking her dryer may disappear.... :D
I also have different length pins and brands of pin brushes for different hairs. What works good on puppy hair is different than 2 yr old hair. Same true for as the lengths of the hair change, and also on different body areas of the same dog. :?
I'm glad other people like the wooden pin brush. I hadn't read about anyone on the board that had it, and when I bought it I thought I was taking a big risk. But it really does come through thier coats nicely.

Where do you find out about the CC grooming seminars? I'd love to attend one; are they for grooming industry only?
I have seen other people use a bristle brush- there is NO WAY that could work through Ru's coat, so yes, it depends on the hair you are dealing with.
got sheep wrote:
I also have different length pins and brands of pin brushes for different hairs. What works good on puppy hair is different than 2 yr old hair. Same true for as the lengths of the hair change, and also on different body areas of the same dog. :?


This is very true & why you will see 6 different styles of pin brushes & 3 different styles of slickers in my tack box. We won't even go into combs.....why I have different ones & why would I pay that much for one! 8O
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