Soooooo Disappointed
Kathie |
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That is SAD 
What's up with the OES clubs out there 
I bet it was a good time. I had seen info on it and it sounded like a big event. Was there a good turnout (attendees)? |
got sheep wrote: That is SAD
What's up with the OES clubs out there I bet it was a good time. I had seen info on it and it sounded like a big event. Was there a good turnout (attendees)? there is NO NY breed club. I am not having much luck fining people interested in revitalizing the old Capital Region club - someone should try the NYC area |
| There was great attendance. I arrived when the event opened at 10a, so it was not busy. By the time I left, around 1:30p, you could not move, there were so many people.
What I loved, was everyone was open and willing to talk to talk to people and the breed information hand outs were so informative. People could really get a good idea about various breeds, both cat and dog. All of the dogs/cats were also fantastic diplomats of their breeds. I spent a lot of time with the Selkirk Rex people, a breed of cat I've become very interested in and they could not have been nicer or more patient with me. My Mom, a PWD owner, parked herself with the PWD people and they also could not have been more gracious. The event had agility, rally, obedience and other demos, including a mock cat show! The education component was wonderful. Just disappointed no OES. By the way, the various breeds were represented by the National (not local) breed clubs. Kathie |
kerry wrote: got sheep wrote: That is SAD What's up with the OES clubs out there I bet it was a good time. I had seen info on it and it sounded like a big event. Was there a good turnout (attendees)? there is NO NY breed club. I am not having much luck fining people interested in revitalizing the old Capital Region club - someone should try the NYC area I know there is no specific NY club.
But, there is a lot of area near there that's not NY. And I was thinking it was more of a national club effort, as Kathie mentioned. |
| The AKC came to the OESCA twice and asked us to do it. Then the club came to some of us East Coast people and asked if we could take it on. There was only a $200 reimbursement (I think that's what it was) for the groups to participate in the show. The set that we used for the Eukanuba show was still out west. They offered to send it out but anything that's shipped like that has to be received, loaded and unloaded by Union Personnel. (You know how much that would cost!!!) Parking is at least $30 a day and they really want you to bring multiple dogs so you can switch them out. So parking/travel would have cost more than the reimbursement and we still had no set.
The show was also very close to our National so the club found it hard to work on 2 big events. The numbers of club members are already low and those of us who are active in the club are already pretty taxed so no participation at the AKC show. I hope that helps to explain it somewhat. P.S. I haven't been back to NYC since I spent 20 hours on the highway trying to get home from Westminster!!!  |
| well the numbers are not likely to grow without some outreach, too bad there wasn't more of an effort by the "active" club members to others - I assume there are a few in the NYC area, some of whom would have been able to step up. |
| You would have to address that with the Eastern Region Director. It was his effort. I only got the email second hand. |
| Yeah , well once he returns my emails forwarded by other directors asking for help with the capital district club mabe we can have these discussions too. |
| I know he's coming off back surgery but he should be able to help you out. Have you tried to talk to Fran Methielis (I cannot be spelling her name right.) She would be a huge help in establishing a club. I will try and send Dick an email and see if he answers me and let you know. |
kajochen wrote: The event had agility, rally, obedience and other demos, including a mock cat show! The education component was wonderful.
Just disappointed no OES. By the way, the various breeds were represented by the National (not local) breed clubs. Kathie I'm really glad that's all you were disappointed about. I saw your message subject and thought something awful had happened. This does suck, of course, but relatively speaking sounds like you had a great time.  |
kerry wrote: well the numbers are not likely to grow without some outreach, too bad there wasn't more of an effort by the "active" club members to others - I assume there are a few in the NYC area, some of whom would have been able to step up.
Rick Tocco is the new Eastern Regional Director and he's in NY Kerry, so maybe you can start there to focus on a regional club. He's in a rural area, so you would be best calling him vs. emailing, as there is no high speed connection in his area. And yes, the National starts tomorrow, not sure what east coasters are heading out there. If Dick were up to it, he would totally have been running the whole thing in NYC. He went out to the California Eukanuba event 2 years in a row to help them out there with their booth. I agree that it really sucks that there was not OES representation, but since it was an AKC event, the national breed club was the only group invited to represent the breed. Hopefully this is an eye opener that maybe people need to start participating in the breed clubs and volunteering for things if they would like to keep our breed around. On a side note, I did offer to bring Frank if someone else was able to coordinate all of the logistics of getting the booth set up. I feel badly that I couldn't volunteer to coordinate everything, but my volunteer card is maxed out with the OESCA web site & yearbook right now. |
VerveUp wrote: kerry wrote: well the numbers are not likely to grow without some outreach, too bad there wasn't more of an effort by the "active" club members to others - I assume there are a few in the NYC area, some of whom would have been able to step up. Rick Tocco is the new Eastern Regional Director and he's in NY Kerry, so maybe you can start there to focus on a regional club. He's in a rural area, so you would be best calling him vs. emailing, as there is no high speed connection in his area. And yes, the National starts tomorrow, not sure what east coasters are heading out there. If Dick Blair was not having the surgery, he would totally have been running the whole thing in NY. He flew out to the Eukanuba event 2 years in a row to help them out there with their booth! I agree that it really sucks that there was not OES representation, but since it was an AKC event, the national breed clubs were invited. Hopefully this is an eye opener that maybe people need to start participating in the breed clubs and volunteering for things if they would like to keep our breed around. On a side note, I did offer to bring Frank if someone else was able to coordinate all of the logistics of getting the booth set up. I feel badly that I couldn't volunteer to coordinate everything, but my volunteer card is maxed out with the OESCA web site & yearbook right now. Deb you are only one person.... You do alot of awesome work for OESCA ... My question is, did it have to a breed club to represent the breed? I honestly do not know so, I am asking? Could an individual have gone with an OES(assuming AKC regisered since that was the group putting it on?) We only have one AKC registered and he is not the typical representation of the breed but, I would be willing to go to an event to educate folks on the breed. (of course we are not close to NYC) As I said, this is all out of curiousity?? I have no clue... |
Donner's Mom wrote: Deb you are only one person....
You do alot of awesome work for OESCA ... My question is, did it have to a breed club to represent the breed? I honestly do not know so, I am asking? Could an individual have gone with an OES(assuming AKC regisered since that was the group putting it on?) We only have one AKC registered and he is not the typical representation of the breed but, I would be willing to go to an event to educate folks on the breed. (of course we are not close to NYC) As I said, this is all out of curiousity?? I have no clue... I really don't know what the criteria is, but I will try to find out. Btw., I finally have the Paypal Dues set up on the OESCA site since you asked me to let you know.... |
| A thought about OESCA and pet owners. What about a membership category for pet owners? In the cat world, most of the breed councils have a category for pet owners. The have to certify they do not breed/show and their cats are neutered/spayed. It is also a non voting class (membership dues are less). People then get the newsletter and can keep up with the latest breed "doings". It brings in some incremental revenue and when there is a show or other event it often brings in volunteers to help. Some of these people might even end up being breeder/show owners later on and have an advantage of a superior knowledge base having gotten involved in the breed club. Just a thought. I know I would be interested in a membership category like this for OESCA.
Kathie |
VerveUp wrote: kerry wrote: well the numbers are not likely to grow without some outreach, too bad there wasn't more of an effort by the "active" club members to others - I assume there are a few in the NYC area, some of whom would have been able to step up. Rick Tocco is the new Eastern Regional Director and he's in NY Kerry, so maybe you can start there to focus on a regional club. He's in a rural area, so you would be best calling him vs. emailing, as there is no high speed connection in his area. And yes, the National starts tomorrow, not sure what east coasters are heading out there. If Dick were up to it, he would totally have been running the whole thing in NYC. He went out to the California Eukanuba event 2 years in a row to help them out there with their booth. Actually he lives right ourdside of Albany, not sure why there is no DSL or cable where he is, but New York is unbelievably backwards in telecommunications options outside of the cities and suburbs. Since we live close to each other - by upstate standards - I have always been surprised I have never met him at any shows or events. I will continue to keep my eyes open. |
What a great initiative (the combined Meet the Breeds) Does anyone know if they plan to make this an annual event?If so, it sounds like OESCA needs to start planning now for the event  Hopefully Dick will feel up to helping out by then, because he did fabulous things for the Eukanuba booths!
The National started yesterday, btw, with the single most important event for our breed; HERDING! 
It sounds like it went really well. Wonder how you'd incorporate sheep into a meet the breeds booth...? 
Hey, Dawn...? 
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: Wonder how you'd incorporate sheep into a meet the breeds booth...? Hey, Dawn...? Kristine video |
| Aw, shucks: you're no fun!
Good point, though. All the more reason to hope somebody taped the trial in CA yesterday. Kristine |
| Most of the herding breeds had beautiful pictures of the dogs herding sheep in their booth and several had videos playing. Many also had stuffed sheep and statues of sheep decorating their booths. Booths ranged from incredibly elaborate to very simple. Should have taken pictures, oh well!
I don't know whether this is going to be an annual event. It appeared to be very successful, so I am hoping it will be. I will check with the CFA people and see what they know. Kathie |
kerry wrote: Actually he lives right ourdside of Albany, not sure why there is no DSL or cable where he is, but New York is unbelievably backwards in telecommunications options outside of the cities and suburbs. Since we live close to each other - by upstate standards - I have always been surprised I have never met him at any shows or events. I will continue to keep my eyes open. Actually mystery solved - apparently I had his town confused with another local town. I may try to call him this afternoon. |
kajochen wrote: A thought about OESCA and pet owners. What about a membership category for pet owners? In the cat world, most of the breed councils have a category for pet owners. The have to certify they do not breed/show and their cats are neutered/spayed. It is also a non voting class (membership dues are less). People then get the newsletter and can keep up with the latest breed "doings". It brings in some incremental revenue and when there is a show or other event it often brings in volunteers to help. Some of these people might even end up being breeder/show owners later on and have an advantage of a superior knowledge base having gotten involved in the breed club. Just a thought. I know I would be interested in a membership category like this for OESCA.
Kathie You can be in OESCA now as a pet owner if you want. Not sure why it is such a misnomer that only show people are OESCA members. |
VerveUp wrote: You can be in OESCA now as a pet owner if you want. Not sure why it is such a misnomer that only show people are OESCA members.
Good point. I joined as a pet owner only. Danger is you can get involved and drawn into other activities  But that's not mandatory either.
Knowing two OESCA members well enough that they're willing to vouch for you is. But even that generally turns out to be a not insurmountable obstacle by any means. They're a little stricter now about someone showing how they know you and for how long, but when I joined I just asked the sitting president what I needed to do to join (I'd heard about the OET and wanted the magazine more than the membership, but, oh, well ) and the next thing I knew I was a member. I some times think back on that and hope she hasn't had reason to regret being willing to vouch for me
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: I some times think back on that and hope she hasn't had reason to regret being willing to vouch for me
Kristine I doubt that very much  |
ChSheepdogs wrote: Mad Dog wrote: I some times think back on that and hope she hasn't had reason to regret being willing to vouch for me Kristine I doubt that very much Oh Marilyn - don't encourage her  |
kerry wrote: Mad Dog wrote: Wonder how you'd incorporate sheep into a meet the breeds booth...? Hey, Dawn...? Kristine video there HAVE to be sheep closer than in MN! although I showed my favorite Suffolk breeding ewe in a demonstration at the MN state fair one year. It is in St Paul, and I got quite the looks with my ewe heeling perfectly through the state fair crowds! It was awesome! |
| Yeah there are plenty of sheep in New York State, and New Jersey. But i am not sure bring sheep into the Javits center is fair to the sheep, my guess is its rough enough on the dogs. Besides with space in NYC at such a premium, I am not sure how much of a herding demo could be put on. A nice large screen video of pet dog's herding would probably be more useful |
kerry wrote: Yeah there are plenty of sheep in New York State, and New Jersey. But i am not sure bring sheep into the Javits center is fair to the sheep, my guess is its rough enough on the dogs. Besides with space in NYC at such a premium, I am not sure how much of a herding demo could be put on. A nice large screen video of pet dog's herding would probably be more useful
I was teasing Though now I dare Dawn to enter Chewie & the Ewe of her choice in brace obedience the next time the national is in the Midwest 
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: I was teasing
Though now I dare Dawn to enter Chewie & the Ewe of her choice in brace obedience the next time the national is in the Midwest Kristine Now that could be a fun(d) raiser event |
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