Heather & Riley
I joined here hoping to find any ideas on curbing his herding instinct. He's an allergy boy (to the extreme) and during the key times of socialization he had to kept indoors - now any time he sees another dog he gets so excited that he herds them. And it comes off as being aggressive but really he's just so excited - one pet store clerk called him "spring loaded" because of the amount of hopping he does when he gets excited. I'd love to be able to take him to dog parks or doggie meet ups but he scares the other dogs and their owners. |
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| Hello from Illinois!
How often do you exercise Riley? Seems like he needs to run that energy out of him. As far as curbing herding instinct... I'm not sure that you really can. It's just natural. My two sheepies love to herd each other and anything they can (including our cats). |
| Welcome - how much training does he have? Socialization or not he should be able to sit when told to do so.
Personally I love that Beardie like hop - my first sheep dog did it all the time  |
Welcome to you both  |
| We run him in the yard and walks during the week but that's about it because every time I take him to parks or anything the herding he does and the jumping scares the other dogs and makes the owners nervous.
He does listen when told to wait and sit but when he goes into the herding zone he'll look @ me and I swear I can see the gears turning on whether he wants to listen to me or not.  |
oesgirl82 wrote: We run him in the yard and walks during the week but that's about it because every time I take him to parks or anything the herding he does and the jumping scares the other dogs and makes the owners nervous.
He does listen when told to wait and sit but when he goes into the herding zone he'll look @ me and I swear I can see the gears turning on whether he wants to listen to me or not. Welcome from Aus. Riley sounds just like my Tiggy. And I thought she herded other dogs because I took her to the park too much when she was little and she got to like herding other dogs. 
I laughed when I read your bit on seeing the gears turning. Once Tiggy is in the zone I dont seem to see any gears when I look in her eyes. It looks more like this :excited: but she's only 20 months old so I'll see whats she's like at 3. Tiggy is getting better slowly. I'm teaching her a "quiet" command because she chases and barks and the barking really scares other dogs. I have to work on her recall again because just in the last month she's taken to coming back to me but running around and around me barking a dodging me so I cant leash her. If I walk her a long lap round the park on lead first it gets some of the beans out of her before she gets to the other dogs. On the weekends when I've more time I walk her the 20 mins to the offlead park and she's better then too. She still herds but she's not frantic about it. If we meet her big labradoodle friends who chase a ball and she chases them then everyone is happy. My trainer suggested I teach her to fetch a ball to use up the herding energy. It sounded like a good idea but so far Tiggy isnt interested in chasing a ball. Dogs, yes, cats, yes, birds, yes, balls, NO  Maybe Riley would like it. Good luck and let me know how it goes. |
oesgirl82 wrote: We run him in the yard and walks during the week but that's about it because every time I take him to parks or anything the herding he does and the jumping scares the other dogs and makes the owners nervous.
He does listen when told to wait and sit but when he goes into the herding zone he'll look @ me and I swear I can see the gears turning on whether he wants to listen to me or not. I am sorry and PLEASE do not take this as a personal attack. Very often people say their dogs are herding and really all they are doing is chasing, or tormenting. Herding is a directed ability that is used to intentionally move an animal form one place to another. Yes herding dogs can be more reactive than some other breeds to movement, but its not herding, which is a good thing because you can fix it without shutting down his herding abilities. |
Doesn't it usually start out as prey drive and then if you nurture and train then it is herding. I wouldn't say my dogs herd the cat. Like Kerry said they torment and gain up. ROTTEN! but the cat seem to love the attention  |
| Your right it is prey drive but Tiggy definitely chases, then runs around in front of the dog and tries to make them turn around and come back towards me.
That's why she loves her doodle friend who chases the ball as the doodle slows down to grab the ball Tiggy circles in front of him turns then chases him back to us. She's always really happy to play with Hoover and doesnt bark at him as he's doing what she thinks she telling him to do. I have seen her do prey drive chasing too with a young dog that got frightened by her barking and tucked his tail in and ran. Then prey drive kicked in and she just chased. I was not happy with her.  |
welcome  |
| Welcome Heather & Riley! My Baxter is a 'hopper' too--and easily excited--a really happy guy! Lots of exercise and consistency-- worked to curb some of the enthusiasm! |
| Welcome!
Our Mulligan is the same way. He gets so excited it puts the other dogs right off. Haven't found any way of stopping this behavior, but we're hopeful. He's only 7!!! |
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| Welcome Heather and Riley, from MN
BTW, where is Apopka? |
| No I don't take offense to any of it. I just didn't view it as being malicious only bc he wasn't barking or showing any of his signs.
The main incident that happened there was only one dog in the park. It could be me over reacting because I'd never seen him do it before. I just get wary because of how owners can be (being that I work in a vet's office). Maybe it's just that I need to take him more and see if it was a one time deal...just because there was one dog and that's how he plays. Sidenote: Apopka is in the Orlando area. |
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