Neutering or not
I have a dog home boarding business www.norfolkpetcarers.com so have dogs in and out of the house all the time (a forever changing pack) and do not have issues. I need to say that all dogs are fed separate, we dont have toys they could get possessive over and any treats are given and we make sure all are eaten or removed.......I have decided I need to say no to any 'Entire Males' as 2 scuffles have arisen with my boy and other entire males, one found an old tennis ball that Percy wanted and another time it was over an unwanted treat. Should I also consider getting my Boy neutered? Will he loose the ability to be Top Dog (he seems to do a great job of keeping everyone in line, with bitches and neutered dogs, without aggression) I know heath issues should also be considered ie testicular cancer. Please I am in a quandry. What would you all do Lots a love karen |
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| Hi Karen and welcome, your decision as to wether you neuter or not. Here is a link for you to read on the pros and cons of de-sexing or not.
Your decision as to which way you go with him. 
http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTerm ... InDogs.pdf |
| I had Wendel neutered earlier this month. He is still the boss in the household. We neutered him due to an abnormal testicle. Our vet said that it would definitely turn cancerous since it was abnormal.
Unless you plan on breeding him, I would have him castrated. There is less chance of cancer to develop. Also, if he's in contact with intact females, you won't have any 'oops' litters. |
lisaoes wrote: Hi Karen and welcome, your decision as to wether you neuter or not. Here is a link for you to read on the pros and cons of de-sexing or not.
Your decision as to which way you go with him. http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTerm ... InDogs.pdf Thanks so much...Boy does that paper go into depth.Thanks also for the kind welcome |
* Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: I had Wendel neutered earlier this month. He is still the boss in the household. We neutered him due to an abnormal testicle. Our vet said that it would definitely turn cancerous since it was abnormal.
Unless you plan on breeding him, I would have him castrated. There is less chance of cancer to develop. Also, if he's in contact with intact females, you won't have any 'oops' litters. I am glad Wendel is still the boss, good to hear it. I just have this notion in my head that if he is castrated he may get belittled by other males. He has a very gentle nature and will not have a bully be rough with little dogs. Acts sometimes like the silverback gorilla, sits back and watches for any problems and acts if need be by runnibg towards the offender and placing himself between the little dog. I get your point on oops litters |
* Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: Unless you plan on breeding him, I would have him castrated. There is less chance of cancer to develop. Also, if he's in contact with intact females, you won't have any 'oops' litters.
Well assuming she owns a leash and knows how to use it, castration does not negate the incidence of cancer (other than in the missing testicles) and may in fact increase the risk of more aggressive and harder to treat cancers. http://www.mmilani.com/commentary-200509.html |
| I saw first hand two instances that will always have me castrate or spay. I saw a rottweiler who was brought into us because his testicle went cancerous and ruptured. His owner had newspaper and a rubberband around the exploded genitals.
I saw a pomeranian who had a crypt orchard that had gone cancerous and swelled to 6 lbs in his abdomen. He was a 14lb dog. Both died horrible deaths and that was terrible to see. |
* Capt. Obvious Danger wrote: I saw first hand two instances that will always have me castrate or spay. I saw a rottweiler who was brought into us because his testicle went cancerous and ruptured. His owner had newspaper and a rubberband around the exploded genitals.
I saw a pomeranian who had a crypt orchard that had gone cancerous and swelled to 6 lbs in his abdomen. He was a 14lb dog. Both died horrible deaths and that was terrible to see. But both were avoidable. A cryptoid is of course a reason for neutering - no questions asked. and if the rottie was given proper vet care, when he developed a tumor castration would have been the treatment, would have saved the dog and most likely due to his age not increased his chances of another cancer. Removing the testicle can be an effective treatment for dogs with testicular cancer, as it is in humans. Spaying can cause many more additional issues. |
| Glad you enjoyed the in depth article. Just be well educated on both sides of the debate before deciding which way you go.
Most vets just push a negative like may be proned to testicular cancer or an enlarged prostrate. ie MAYBE or MAYBE NOT But they never speak of the probable benefits of maybe leaving them entire. Like the girls they push big time to owners oooooh mammery cancer, higher risk, spaying does not eliminate that completely just lessens the percentages. They never mention the otherside of the coin and what could be benefits for leaving either sex entire so most people dont have a good idea on all the facts to make an informative decision as to wether or not. With the girls probably more emphasis on spaying due to them coming into heat and a higher chance of an Oooops litter if unresponsible owners but spaying at 6 months should be a no no for this breed done when older to lessen the chances of Early spay incontinence which seems to be a problem in OES girls done too early. By the sounds of your boy, he sounds like an absolute sweetie and personally I cant see any reason to snip snip as they say. He has a nice temperament, not dog aggressive or humping everything in sight. Still your decision as to which way you go after reading all the pros and cons. And obviously he has two testicles down. If he had undescended then no debate there it is something that has to be done a neuter.
I've have & had entire boys, my first OES was just a companion, entire, never a problem and lived to a ripe old age. Dont be pressured into a quick decision until you inform yourself on both sides of the great to do or not to do debate. |
| I had always said that I would not get Percy castrated unless he got very frustrated and wound up. I would hate him to get in a turmoil over his own testosterone levels, trying to get out if he sences a bitch on heat and humping everything in sight. That has not happened YET anyway. Apart from being my pride and joy he is also a huge part of the way our business runs. He is a great judge of character of any dog that may come and stay with us (they visit first before we agree to care for them) if a dog does not get along with him then they dont come and stay end of story. I have made it a policy now that we do not take entire dogs anymore. A couple of scuffles started with him involved (both entire males) Percy fought his corner but was upset by it both times. I dont want him to have to fight to stay 'Top Dog' especially in his own home. To quote you......No more dogs with dangly bits.
He was bullied terribly by his litter mates, when he came to me he would not eat from a bowl, he kept cowering and walking around it. I tried steel bowl, plastic, china, but he was terrified. I wondered if he was not allowed to eat until the others had their fill. I started to throw it on the floor and he ate the lot.....So I guess he was only allowed the pickings from the floor. I started holding the bowl and he was fine, gradually he was able to eat from a raised stool for himself. I will be sending the link to a few friends who are going through the same quandry.....If nothing else it should make them wait until they are at least a year old. We have so many come to stay with us who were done at 6 months, which I always thought was terrible. So thanks for the report...Good one! |
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