Difference between Boys and Girls
A while ago I had posted that my family did not want to have another OES but I think I have convinced them that's the only puppy I will consider. Now the debate is to get a boy or girl. Sammy was the first female dog in our family. We have always had male pups. I loved her gentle sweetness and nannyish behaviour towards the boys...they called her "Mama Girl" The debate is that my family wants to now get a boy so it will not compete with their memories of Sam. I want another girl for the opposite reason. I know every puppy has their own distinct personality but generally speaking what are the major differences between boy sheepies and girl sheepies?  |
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I think that the differences you and your boys will see, just due to individual personality, will make whole new memories with this pup, and not "compete" with Sammy at all! 
That being said...My girl is definitely the more "nannyish" of the sheepies we've had...but my boys have had her beat in terms if sheer sweetness and affectionate-ness. The boys have seemed goofier, and more playful , whereas Abby takes her school-marm duties very seriously.  
Could be just my girl, though  |
ravenmoonart wrote: I think that the differences you and your boys will see, just due to individual personality, will make whole new memories with this pup, and not "compete" with Sammy at all!
Agreed. You get new memories with every dog, same breed or not. My first OES was a male, Buford. He was such a love, always, ALWAYS looked after our kids as they were growing up. He was a goofy sort, but since he was my first ever dog, I had nothing to compare him to. If there is such a thing as a Type A personality in dogs, Drez was it!! She would have been alpha in ANY pack, male or female. Very playful and loving, though, but definitely marched to the beat of her own drummer. Did what SHE wanted to do when SHE wanted to do it, and devised some clever ways to "get around the system." Personality plus, that one. Now Sammie, our current female OES, is about as un-Type A as you can get. VERY submissive personality, never wants to be in any kind of trouble, just wants to be adored. We can handle that. So it really just depends on the dog themselves. You should discuss what type of personality you want with a breeder so they can lead you towards the dog the feel best fits it. Either way, I would also not want to be without one of these clowns! |
| I think the boys are better pets... they are more of a big suck, usually calmer and more laid back. |
| Generally I have to agree with Willowsprite - you might also want to check out the comments on the poll I recently started on performance dogs and which sex people prefer to work with. Boys - and I have three of three different breeds - just want to be loved and pretty much please you.
Girls - think for themselves and are smarter. When I got Marley the best thing I was told was she would never replace my Max, and each and everyone of them deserve to be loved for themselves. |
| I agree with ravenmoonart. Mine are almost identical.
While my male may want be more affectionate and want to be on me instead of touching me... he by NO MEANS wants to please us. He is beyond stubborn, wants to do what he wants at the moment he wants to, and independent (only dependent on being pet and following behind us during a walk). He clearly knows what is wrong, and when you correct him, will only back up for half a second before trying again and again. He also by no means seems brighter than my female, so training is more difficult. But, as mentioned his soft affectionate side is ALWAYS present ...and he is more open to being pet by strangers. While my female is only seeing if you have something for her (treat). My female is cleaner, the one who wants to please and do things more structured. If we have said no to something, she won't let someone do that "wrong" thing in the house. She heeds our warning more, but still is also very stubborn. She is not as affectionate, but I still say very affectionate esp. with the people she feels are alpha in the home. She also respects boundaries more than my male. So far, mr. j and I love a female a lot more ...this is subject to change of course! FWIW, 100% of the time I have seen this asked, the majority of people tend to like the more affectionate, laid back male more. |
| i have had females all my life i guess they were too smart for me .. now i have my 2 bozos and everyone is right they love to love you |
| I was reading the posts on this thread out loud to my husband, and he reminded me of some of our concerns and guilty feelings about "replacement" when we got our boy Eggbert.
We had just lost out beloved boy Spencer a few months before, and were still grieving very hard, but we were determined to get a new pup ASAP, since our girl Abby was so very lonely  .
We lucked into a perfect situation, since the breeder we wanted to go with happened to have a 6 month old pup who needed a pet home (his show career having been cut short by the development of a bad underbite )
She sent me some photos, and my 1st response (after the initial awwww ) was to say: " Oh no! He looks exactly like Spence!" All white head, one blue eye, and although we didn't know it at the time, he grew up to be almost the exact height and weight as our old boy.
Well, needless to say, I got over my hesitation, and Bert joined our household. Wow...while both Spencer and Eggbert have some things in common (sweet natured, loving, gentle) They couldn't be more different in others. Spencer was an "old soul", wise and calm, and with an almost magical ability to calm down other dogs. Bert, on the other hand is a little clown, full of fun and mischief and trouble . At a glace, they could be twins...but look deeply into those mis-matched eyes, and there is NO doubt that Eggbert is one-of-a-kind! |
| I don't claim to have vast experience or knowledge on the issue, but wanted to respond as I've so often laughed about how different my two female OES have been. Don't get me wrong, both were typical OES in their sweet loving nature and gentle way of always just being there.
However, Vic my first one was very timid and careful about everything (including studying treats very carefully before eating them). She would not hop on the couch if there was a magazine or newspaper on the floor because she did not want to step on that. At the same time she was not afraid of people at all, always friendly and ready to make a friend. At the time I was living in the innercity in Chicago and it would crack me up seeing gangbangers cross the street cause they saw this big ball of fluff walking toward them (or maybe they were intimidated by me??? never thought of that) Gracie, my current OES, will walk into and through anything without a hesitation. She is curious and brazen about any and everything about life. Once, she leaped out a second floor balcony cause... well I don't know why. She saw the door open and charged through the living room and efforlessly scaled the balcony railing! Broke a toe! I got Gracie from a shelter fairly soon after Vic unexpectedly died. Even though the two have fairly similar markings and coloring, their personalities are so different that it's never been a competition for affection in my mind. Good thoughts to you in your next step of healing! Salla |
| We have always gone with the boys---We have had 5 sheepies all males and all very affectionate, sweet, smart, funny and full of joy! All have been very different and unique in personality. We currently have two males- one is 7 and one is 4. Baley is and always has been laid back and easy going--as long as he is with us the world is a happy place. He was easily trained and goes with the flow--
Baxter on the other hand is my 'naughty' little guy--he is bouncy, full of mischief--and I have always said when I look into those big brown eyes--I fully expect that at any moment he will start talking to me. He is extremely affectionate but a little more independent than Baley. My other three guys were very similar but did have their own style. I would say our first--was the most wise and almost a 'person'! BUT at the time he came into our lives--we had no children and were much younger without the busy on the go schedules. He received our undivided attention and went absolutely everywhere we went--so he had so many experiences from the beginning. ALL have been SPECIAL in their own way! I am now considering a puppy and I know that I will go with another male--just my preference--although a little girl might be an interesting addition! |
| OH--and I am so excited that your family has come around to accept the idea of another OES!!
I have thought of you several times and wondered how the debate was going! |
Willowsprite wrote: I think the boys are better pets... they are more of a big suck, usually calmer and more laid back.
I have had some nice gals BUT, I love my boys!!!!!!! Totally the dog I am sure! |
Boys have more equipment underneath  
Seriously though either is great, girls seem a bit more switched on in the brains department and boys big cuddle bears. what you have to focus on is not really which sex but what you want in and OES that will suit your family and lifestyle as far as personality goes. Even if it is another girl, there is never any comparisons as each and everyone of them is different in their own unique way. |
| We've found in my family -- we're on our fifth OES now -- that the girls tend to be a bit more Type A and bossy, while the boys are a little more laid back and cuddle-prone.
That's not to say the girls weren't loving. Or hilarious. But it seems the boys want to be your companion, while the girls would rather be your drill sargeant. |
| Thanks everyone for the great feedback. Of course I would be happy with any OES puppy. I guess in a way I want to have Sammy back. I understand now the motivation of people who want to clone their beloved pets. I think someone in the US recently cloned his German Shepherd.
Maybe I should just get one of each!! That would solve the dilemma. Cross your fingers for me while I try to "sell" that idea! |
| I find Laika way more affectionate. Of course Langley doesn't sit still long enough to gets hugs and affection from. See what happens when he settle down. |
| I have had 3 females. My first two were very hyper and we had thought of getting a male this time, but because of Jenny's temperament and personality, we decided on another female. For a one year old, she has been the calmest, most laid back sheepie I have ever had. She is also extremely affectionate and always wants to be with her peeps. |
| Friends have 2 females, same breeder, same lines but not close relatives. The two girls could be more different: Crumpet is loud, uncertain of herself. Emma is a sweetie, quiet and quietly rules the roost. |
| I’ve had two OES, both male, very affectionate and adore attention.
I have two girlfriends who currently have both male and female OES. One of the females is VERY cuddly and affectionate. She actually gives hugs. The male is not very affectionate. My other girlfriend’s dogs are the exact opposite. The male is very affectionate and the female is aggressive. Guess it just depends on the dog. |
spacegirl21 wrote: I find Laika way more affectionate. Of course Langley doesn't sit still long enough to gets hugs and affection from. See what happens when he settle down.
My boy Finn as a puppy was not a cuddler but, as he is getting older he is a snuggle bunny! So hard to get out of bed with fuzzy dogs surounding ya! (Is that a legit excuse to be late to work ) |
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