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I used to work at a vet a long time ago and we had a dog that used to get that. It was a hematoma, making the ear get really huge and swollen. After it was drained, it was bandaged for healing.
I remember that Syd used to shake his ears so violently and it would re-occurr. It seemed to me that it would take anywhere from 1 - 2 weeks. |
Our good friends just went through this with their golden. She ended up needing a pretty big intervention. They cut her whole ear flap in two (imagine cutting a pancake the long way, ending up with two paper thin pancakes, full sized). They cleaned it out and restitched the ear with something in the neighbourhood of over a hundred stitches. This took a while to heal, and she has a bumpy feeling ear, but she healed pretty quickly.
I wonder if the draining process simply isn't "taking" well enough and that's the problem. I know for our friends it was quite a complicated (and pricey) procedure, but they were able to get right down to the area where the blood was seeping from and actually repair that so it wouldn't bleed again. All I can offer is my best wishes. I really wish there was a way to get our dogs to understand that we're trying to help, and to let them know what to do to heal quickly. Hugs to your pup. |
If it is a hematoma which it sounds like it is, usually the vet stiches the ear flap together so no pocket there inbetween where the hematoma has burst otherwise it does keep filling up with blood.
Did the vet stich together the ear flap where the hematoma was so it can heal up without filling up again? If not and it continues to come up and fill up with blood then that is the next step so it heals and does not keep coming up. Also she may need an e-collar to stop her even trying to scratch or bump that area till all healed. |
A condition hat will drive the vets nuts as it is not easily cured. The last of my dogs to be plagued was Paige the Pyr. First few times the vet was able to get the hematoma down and gone fairly easily, last time it took almost a month using all sorts of stitiches, pressings, etc. Poor ear looked like it had been embroidered when comlete. Fortunately hair hid all.
Hematomas come from bites, injury or most likely from shaking one's head (think ear problems) and the centrifical force forces blood into the tiny blood vessels in the ear and they explode from the extra blood. Keeping puppy's ears clean and eliminating a lot of the shaking goes far in preventing hematomas. |
Yup! Put all your replies together and it's a perfect match. I am not that sure that the haematoma hasnt blown up again under the current bandage. As you say, Berry sees this all as a major inconvenience and is enthusiastically not co-operating. I suspect another visit to the vet is in order. He did a house call yesterday to check the dressing, but I think we will err on the side of caution. I had a feeling this was going to be a chronic thing. |
Just back from the vet, and I was right - it had built up again. He drained it (much to Berry's displeasure) and we are home again and not letting her out of our sight. We are trying without the bandage for a while. Will keep you posted.
From a blood-bespattered Judy and a rather displeased Berry |
My Violet had this problem about 6 weeks ago. Violet's ear was pretty "blown up." My Vet explained to me that the new thinking on this problem is to leave it alone. The worse thing that could happen would be to develop a "pigs ear." Since we don't "show" Violet I was more oncerned about her health and also having surgery here in Florida with the heat which is ripe for infection. So we left the ear alone and with in days the ear went back to normal.
The sad news in our Vet is retiring in July. We will miss his sage advise. |
Interesting. Hope I don't have to find out if this works. Yes, wise vets are a reat loss. |
Hope it all settles down quickly for you both. |
We saw the vet again this morning and discussed the options which were to either leave the ear as it was and let it settle itself (although he warned that it would/could look a little strange) or to restitch the ear to the compress and leave the bandage on until the ear had reknitted fully. The ear is bugging her as it is - she is flapping it all the time and rubbing it against the furniture, and presenting herself to me as if to say "so do something about this", so we have decided to redo the op. Funny thing is, I suspect Berry has begun to enjoy the outings to the vet!!!! So Monday morning, 10 o'clock we are back in theatre. Hold thumbs! |
Keeping fingers crossed all goes well and it heals up nicely. You might want to have an e-collar put on her after to stop her either scratching it or bumping it on things while healing.
Keep us posted to how it is all going. |
Hoping all goes well for Berry, my oes Dudley had a hematoma and was op. on. the Vet put one stich in his ear to hold it to the top of his head and this allowed the air to get at the op site. He healed very well and never had another issue with it |
Well, we came through the op with flying colours. Not many patients are carefully and personally driven home by their vets!!!!!! Berry is wrapped up like a mummy, but is exhibiting her usual good humour and after eating chessie's (alsation) breakfast, settled down for a good sleep. The bandage is to stay in place for a goodly period of time (vet will check again on Friday) and I will have to post a photo of Berry and her headgear in my album. Thank you all for your support. I realised again today, as I drove away from dropping her off at the surgery, how special she is to me. We will keep you updated. Love Judy and Berry |
good luck and to Berry. |
We did it!!!!!! After the second op to lance the ear, we kept the bandage on for ages. Berry seemed to get used to it, and so, when the official bandage was removed, we fashioned a fuschia-pink, flexi-scarf for her which she wore with pride. I am delighted to say that we now have a normal ear again. Very proud. Will post a photo of her wearing her official south african save-your-ear head-dress! Yay! |
Great news!
Cant wait to see the photos. |
YES! I had this happen with my first OES many years ago. he had surgery and came out like a war veteran with a bandage wrapped around his head and ear. It took a while but it healed up nicely.
Hope your baby is better soon...By the way...I do rmemer my Vet telling me the odds of it happeneing again were high. However, my dog at the time was almost 13. It never happened again and he lived to be almost 15. |
YAY!!! |
Judy,
How lucky you are to have such an attentive vet. Our's is great but even I can't get a house call from my doctor. Best of luck that it won't recur..........Kathy |
I wanted to add to this thread. No need to comment but had a strange thing happen this weekend but I think it relates to broken blood vessels/ear hematoma. Shaved Rebecca from about a 4 inch coat to about 1/4 inch. Gave her a bath afterward, everything is fine. She always gets a little freaky with her ears when shaved, almost like it's strange sensation for her. Getting ready to let the dogs out & feed them at dinner. She comes running up to me shaking her head - ears flapping. The tips of both of her ears are covered in blood, from the tip to about an inch and a half towards her ear canal, almost like she dipped them in red paint. Don't really see where she's bleeding from, but she's definitely bleeding as she now has some blood on the top of her head (from flapping). I'm thinking it's the start of a hematoma and am trying as much as possible to prohibit her shaking her head. Now she is completely fine. No abrasions, scabs or swelling - just a couple of spots of dried blood. No sign of anything that would have caused this. I'm thinking she must have some sort superhero healing power. |
VerveUp wrote: I wanted to add to this thread. No need to comment but had a strange thing happen this weekend but I think it relates to broken blood vessels/ear hematoma. Shaved Rebecca from about a 4 inch coat to about 1/4 inch. Gave her a bath afterward, everything is fine. She always gets a little freaky with her ears when shaved, almost like it's strange sensation for her. Getting ready to let the dogs out & feed them at dinner. She comes running up to me shaking her head - ears flapping. The tips of both of her ears are covered in blood, from the tip to about an inch and a half towards her ear canal, almost like she dipped them in red paint. Don't really see where she's bleeding from, but she's definitely bleeding as she now has some blood on the top of her head (from flapping). I'm thinking it's the start of a hematoma and am trying as much as possible to prohibit her shaking her head. Now she is completely fine. No abrasions, scabs or swelling - just a couple of spots of dried blood. No sign of anything that would have caused this. I'm thinking she must have some sort superhero healing power. I had this happen once too. Scared the daylights out of me. My dogs always tend to flap their ears when they are shaved too but for some reason this one boy must have had thinner skin or done it harder or something. Trick was to keep his ears on top of his head (tied up with vet wrap) & get him to quit shaking. Same as you....couldn't find anywhere it was coming from such as scratches or cuts. I think they can shake so hard they force the blood thru the skin cells. |
Hi, my 6 month old standard poodle just had her first haircut, 20 mins later her ears have swollen 3 times the size. Very worried, bit spent hours with cold compress and much better now! Anyone experienced this? I think its because the groomer plucked her inner ear hair and burst a blood vessel. |
Good idea with the ice. I don't know that plucking ear hair can cause a burst vessel, but it is very possible that head shaking because of the irritation of plucking could burst a vessel. I hope it all works out for your poodle girl!! |
When Howie was shave a month ago the groomer warned us to watch for shaking of the head. She said if he was shaking too much that the ears could bleed. She sent us home with some hockey tape and directions how to wrap his ears to his head if he persistently shook. The groomer said after 24hrs the shaking should go away. We were lucky Howie only shook his head a few times right after his shave and only when he was outside in the wind. peg |
Thanks she is almost better this morning. As for head shaking she does it more playing and shaking her toys! Strange isn't it! Thanks |
I had this happen with my first sheepie, first one ear then the other -- both required surgery. Her ears blew up like a baloon. Although I honestly can't remember whether it was when she had been shaved. She always had a habit of shaking her head ~~ I always had her at the Vets for her ears. We were always on top of them and she still managed to get ear infections. |
judyanne wrote: We did it!!!!!! I am delighted to say that we now have a normal ear again. Oh wonderful. Glad Berry has mended. And yes please a photo! peg |
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