Dr. W. Jean Dodds Latest Vaccination Schedule
http://www.weim.net/emberweims/Vaccine.html Dr. Jean Dodds' Recommended Vaccination Schedule Distemper (MLV) Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks 1st Annual Booster At 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only Re-Administration Interval None needed. Duration of immunity 7.5 / 15 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending. Comments Can have numerous side effects if given too young (< 8 weeks). Parvovirus (MLV) Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks 1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only Re-Administration Interval None needed. Duration of immunity 7.5 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending. Comments At 6 weeks of age, only 30% of puppies are protected but 100% are exposed to the virus at the vet clinic. Rabies (killed) Initial 24 weeks or older 1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year (give 3-4 weeks apart from Dist/Parvo booster) Killed 3 year rabies vaccine Re-Administration Interval 3 yr. vaccine given as required by law in California (follow your state/provincial requirements) Comments rabid animals may infect dogs. Vaccines Not Recommended For Dogs Distemper & Parvo @ 6 weeks or younger Not recommended. At this age, maternal antibodies form the mothers milk (colostrum) will neutralize the vaccine and only 30% for puppies will be protected. 100% will be exposed to the virus at the vet clinic. Corona Not recommended. 1.) Disease only affects dogs <6 weeks of age. 2.) Rare disease: TAMU has seen only one case in seven years. 3.) Mild self-limiting disease. 4.) Efficacy of the vaccine is questionable. Leptospirosis Not recommended 1) There are an average of 12 cases reported annually in California. 2) Side effects common. 3) Most commonly used vaccine contains the wrong serovars. (There is no cross-protection of serovars) There is a new vaccine with 2 new serovars. Two vaccinations twice per year would be required for protection.). 4) Risk outweighs benefits. Lyme Not recommended 1) Low risk in California. 2) 85% of cases are in 9 New England states and Wisconsin. 3) Possible side effect of polyarthritis from whole cell bacterin. Boretella (Intranasal) (killed) Only recommended 3 days prior to boarding when required. Protects against 2 of the possible 8 causes of kennel cough. Duration of immunity 6 months. Giardia Not recommended Efficacy of vaccine unsubstantiated by independent studies There are two types of vaccines currently available to veterinarians: modified-live vaccines and inactivated ("killed") vaccines. Immunization Schedules There is a great deal of controversy and confusion surrounding the appropriate immunization schedule, especially with the availability of modified-live vaccines and breeders who have experienced postvaccinal problems when using some of these vaccines. It is also important to not begin a vaccination program while maternal antibodies are still active and present in the puppy from the mother's colostrum. The maternal antibodies identify the vaccines as infectious organisms and destroy them before they can stimulate an immune response. Many breeders and owners have sought a safer immunization program. Modified Live Vaccines (MLV) Modified-live vaccines contain a weakened strain of the disease causing agent. Weakening of the agent is typically accomplished by chemical means or by genetic engineering. These vaccines replicate within the host, thus increasing the amount of material available for provoking an immune response without inducing clinical illness. This provocation primes the immune system to mount a vigorous response if the disease causing agent is ever introduced to the animal. Further, the immunity provided by a modified-live vaccine develops rather swiftly and since they mimic infection with the actual disease agent, it provides the best immune response. Inactivated Vaccines (Killed) Inactivated vaccines contain killed disease causing agents. Since the agent is killed, it is much more stable and has a longer shelf life, there is no possibility that they will revert to a virulent form, and they never spread from the vaccinated host to other animals. They are also safe for use in pregnant animals (a developing fetus may be susceptible to damage by some of the disease agents, even though attenuated, present in modified-live vaccines). Although more than a single dose of vaccine is always required and the duration of immunity is generally shorter, inactivated vaccines are regaining importance in this age of retrovirus and herpesvirus infections and concern about the safety of genetically modified microorganisms. Inactivated vaccines available for use in dogs include rabies, canine parvovirus, canine coronavirus, etc. The updated address is: W. Jean Dodds, DVM Hemopet 11561 Salinaz Avenue Garden Grove, CA 92843 hemopet.org (714) 891-2022 Note: This schedule is the one I recommend and should not be interpreted to mean that other protocols recommended by a veterinarian would be less satisfactory. It's a matter of professional judgment and choice. For breeds or families of dogs susceptible to or affected with immune dysfunction, immune-mediated disease, immune-reactions associated with vaccinations, or autoimmune endocrine disease (e.g., thyroiditis, Addison's or Cushing's disease, diabetes, etc.) the above protocol is recommended. After 1 year, annually measure serum antibody titers against specific canine infectious agents such as distemper and parvovirus. This is especially recommended for animals previously experiencing adverse vaccine reactions or breeds at higher risk for such reactions (e.g., Weimaraner, Akita, American Eskimo, Great Dane). Another alternative to booster vaccinations is homeopathic nosodes. This option is considered an unconventional treatment that has not been scientifically proven to be efficacious. One controlled parvovirus nosode study did not adequately protect puppies under challenged conditions. However, data from Europe and clinical experience in North America support its use. If veterinarians choose to use homeopathic nosodes, their clients should be provided with an appropriate disclaimer and written informed consent should be obtained. I use only killed 3 year rabies vaccine for adults and give it separated from other vaccines by 3-4 weeks. In some states, they may be able to give titer test result in lieu of booster. I do NOT use Bordetella, corona virus, leptospirosis or Lyme vaccines unless these diseases are endemic in the local area pr specific kennel. Furthermore, the currently licensed leptospira bacterins do not contain the serovars causing the majority of clinical leptospirosis today. I do NOT recommend vaccinating bitches during estrus, pregnancy or lactation. W. Jean Dodds, DVM HEMOPET |
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| Thanks for posting the update. |
got sheep wrote: Thanks for posting the update.
Yes, thank you. Sweet. Mirrors my own protocol, but now finally someone with a degree is saying the same thing 
Kristine |
| You're very welcome -- please feel free to share it. |
Mad Dog wrote: got sheep wrote: Thanks for posting the update. Yes, thank you. Sweet. Mirrors my own protocol, but now finally someone with a degree is saying the same thing Kristine LOL - me too  |
got sheep wrote: Mad Dog wrote: got sheep wrote: Thanks for posting the update. Yes, thank you. Sweet. Mirrors my own protocol, but now finally someone with a degree is saying the same thing Kristine LOL - me too Me too...  |
| I do question the Lepto vaccine. Do you have any idea how many outbreaks there are in NJ since her statement only refers to CA? There are a lot of exposure opportunities here in NJ, and I do give it to our 2 dogs that always are nosing around all over the place. |
| Re lepto, I try to educate puppy people about the vaccine and the risks and give them info about the disease but leave it up to them. I don't have the lepto vaccine given to my dogs as I feel they are not at risk for lepto. If a puppy is going to a home where there is a greater risk I advise them to go over the info with their vet and make the best decision they can for their puppy. |
| Thank you very much for posting this. I was just looking for this. |
| My retired bitch, Belle, managed to contract lepto. The only way we knew was I had run routine geriatric blood work and her liver values were off, suggestive of infection. My vet suspected lepto due to conditions at the time and she came back positive for two serovars. We treated even though she was asymptomatic. As it turned out the two serovars she contracted are not covered by vaccine.
I didn't change what I do, but that doesn't mean that if you're in an area endemic to the serovars the vaccines cover and your dogs are likely to be exposed you shouldn't consider the risk/benefits and act accordingly. Not sure how you find that data specifically for NJ though...? Kristine |
| Gosh, I'm so smart and didn't even know it! This is exactly the schedule what I was more or less following with my dog.
VerveUp wrote: I do question the Lepto vaccine. Do you have any idea how many outbreaks there are in NJ since her statement only refers to CA? There are a lot of exposure opportunities here in NJ, and I do give it to our 2 dogs that always are nosing around all over the place.
Verve, if you have an outbreak in your area by all means do it. Vaccination protocols are a risk management exercise. I took a travel vaccine once, and nearly had to miss my trip because of an adverse reaction. |
Cadenza wrote: Gosh, I'm so smart and didn't even know it! This is exactly the schedule what I was more or less following with my dog.
It's not exactly rocket science for any of us since the research has steadily been heading in this direction. But not all vets are onboard, nor will all vets be swayed by the above statement. Still, for those who have really had to fight their vets to minimize vaccinations, it's nice when you have something in writing summarized by someone in the field and not just "my feeling is..." 
KB |
| Thank you! |
VerveUp wrote: I do question the Lepto vaccine. Do you have any idea how many outbreaks there are in NJ since her statement only refers to CA? There are a lot of exposure opportunities here in NJ, and I do give it to our 2 dogs that always are nosing around all over the place.
I know when I placed a foster in NJ she took him in for post adoption PE, I had not vaccinated him for lepto and her vet reccomended it due to the prevelence in the area! That was back in 2004, I will ask her if they still do it... (I kinda doubt it) |
| Thanks for the post.
Does anyone else have problems managing obedience, agility classes etc? Here in Aus they all (well the ones I've spoken to) ask for a current vaccination certificate which here still means annual. I havent asked my vet yet because Tiggys just had her 1 year booster so she's up to date. But it will become an issue in the future as I dont plan to vaccinate every year. Paying for titres is about the only solution I can think of. Anyone else had to overcome this issue? |
| ^^^^ no trouble with the obedience classes as I'm the teacher....
however, the facility does have rules. They were annual at 1st but they relaxed them to just the core vaccines, with no need for annual boosters. I also take classes other places, but they have the same rules as well. And TDI (Therapy Dogs International) dropped their vaccine requirements 2 yrs ago to the core series (as a pup) with no further vaccines needed except maintaining a current rabies. At that time I dropped my registered therapy dogs down with the rest of my dogs. |
Mim wrote: Thanks for the post.
Does anyone else have problems managing obedience, agility classes etc? Here in Aus they all (well the ones I've spoken to) ask for a current vaccination certificate which here still means annual. I havent asked my vet yet because Tiggys just had her 1 year booster so she's up to date. But it will become an issue in the future as I dont plan to vaccinate every year. Paying for titres is about the only solution I can think of. Anyone else had to overcome this issue? Not really. Where they demand proof, you titer. Used to be they would only accept vaccinations as proof, so I'm just grateful they accept titers now. Where I train agility they only require parvo, distemper and, of course, rabies. Where I train obedience I do drop-ins and no one has ever asked. But I belonged to one club a few years back that demanded vaccines and I wasn't about to vaccinate my middleaged dog so I dropped her from classes. They've since changed their by-laws so they can accept titers. They mostly do it for liability reasons, I think. At least most have dropped the bordatella requirement. I was a member of a dog park that was not so flexible and so I dropped my membership. You adjust. If you tell various organizations nicely why you're doing what you're doing, some times you can affect change. Especially in settings like training clubs because you're dealing with your peers and you all tend to have the same concerns. Kristine |
| Mim it is hard as all obeidence clubs here require proof of vaccinations, but I think it is only when you join not looking at proof annually I think.
Same with boarding kennels, mine have never been in one, but if ever for whatever reason I need to use one then wont be able too as I dont vaccinate the older dogs now and will not after all the information that is coming out on overvaccinations. Our vets are behind the times here, so are most canine organisations, I had a heated discussion with my vet on Brie, she went in for a sore ear and he said WELL she is years overdue for vaccinations. We had the great debate and said to him no vaccinations and quoted Dr.Dodds studies as Dr.Dodds did lecture here not all that long ago. Lets say we agreed to disagree on this one, hopefully with more data and more research coming out over vaccinations our vets here will catch up a bit. Years ago with peppa at age 7 lumps came up previously after annual vaccinations from the age of 5 upwards, I suspected at the time something was not right, one of those lumps turned out to be a "Mast Cell" tumour, after intensive treatment and fighting to stop it mastitsising I stopped annual vaccinations altogether, no more mysterious lumps appeared after that for the next 7 years and she was in good health with no diseases etc ever caught old age just got her in the end. So I am a believer of what the hell are we doing every year to our dogs, if you look at human kids we dont jab them every year with live vaccines. Kelsey I stopped at 4 years and 10 years later never a problem and I think with the two youngsters just there annual vacs now due after there initial puppy vacs last year and no more after that just a titter test in a few years time to see if they still have what they need to protect them or if some sort of booster is required. Wish here they would catch up on the research and hopefully one day, facilities like dog organisations, boarding kennels etc will take titter results as proof rather then wanting annual vacs records on the dogs. |
| we had to board the dogs last year and the facility "required" proof of vaccination. when I spoke with them tough and told them I was following dr dodd's protocol (which required fewere titres before) they were fine - still had to get the kc vaccine but better than all of them |
kerry wrote: we had to board the dogs last year and the facility "required" proof of vaccination. when I spoke with them tough and told them I was following dr dodd's protocol (which required fewere titres before) they were fine - still had to get the kc vaccine but better than all of them
We titre for distemper and usually most kennels will just ask for some type of proof for the titre instead of forcing you to have the vaccine. |
| Thanks everyone!!
Looks like I'm in for some polite arguing and titres.  |
| You're very welcome! |
kerry wrote: we had to board the dogs last year and the facility "required" proof of vaccination. when I spoke with them tough and told them I was following dr dodd's protocol (which required fewere titres before) they were fine - still had to get the kc vaccine but better than all of them
Every kennel we've ever boarded our guys at has accepted titers instead of vaccination. Of course, I overwhelm them with data beforehand as well. |
VerveUp wrote: I do question the Lepto vaccine.
VerveUp, A while ago, I posted a thread on the Leptospira Vaccine, you can read it at this link http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=18165 . Kris |
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