Stinky Doggies

I adopted two 2 year old OES's about 6 weeks ago. They are kenneled or inside most of the time except for a 1.5 mile walk morning and night. They dont get into anything outside but a few days after a bath they start to smell a little strong. Any idea why? I could bathe weekly but I've read its not good for them. I tried the "Fabreeze" trick but it wears off fast- and they have very short coats right now.
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:? Please tell me you're joking?! The "Febreeze trick"?!?

If you're talking about the houshold product you spray onto furnitue etc. to get the smell out of it...I really, really hope you don't spray it on your dog......

Groom the dog daily. Wash his paws and face (water only) if they get particulary muddy, but please for the love of God don't use household cleaning products on your Sheepie!

(or is this a joke? I find it hard to tell since someone on the OES List today said they use Hydrogen Peroxide on thier Sheepie's beard..... :evil:
I'm not a groomer, and I never tried whitening my dog's beard, so can I ask a really stupid question?

What's wrong with using Hydrogen Peroxide on a sheepie's beard, or anywhere else on their hair?

I've heard of beard whiteners, but I don't know what's in them. I've also seen groomers at the dog shows using cornstarch and all sorts of sprays.

Just curious and wondering.
Well, I've since been told that they use a very dilute solution of it (I still don't think its a good idea) but...

Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) is a chemical bleaching agent - oxidiser and corrosive (getting the idea yet?). It's used in eg. human hair dye products to bleach hair (granted) BUT, if you've ever asked someone who's used it, you'll know that you have to wear protective gloves and a hair cap to ensure the stuff doesn't actually tough the skin.

To put it another way - would you wash your dog in bleach??

This is, of course, just my opinion - I realise now, as I said earlier, that you can get dilute sprays - but no matter how dilute, I think baby powder, corstarch, or even water is far kinder - Sheepies are animals, not ornaments :D
Hey there...
I hear your concern about using Febreeze on an animal. The idea struck me as rather insane at first as well, but after I read that suggestion on several websites pertaining to long haired breeds, I got curious. I was also getting kind of desperate after I changed Curtis's diet and he was still getting smelly just a day after a good bath and ear cleaning, so I went out and did a little research on the idea. As it turns out, Febreze is basically just water, modified cornstarch and a little perfume (I do have some chemistry background, so I'm not totally coming out of left field here). Assuming that your sheepie isn't allergic to the perfume, there isn't really anything in this product that could hurt him/her (assuming he/she doesn't decide to make the entire bottle a midnight snack). I'm definitely not trying to endorse Febreze or persuade anyone to try it on their sheepie, but it's definitely a trick that has worked for us. Obviously, the idea needs to be used in moderation - I wouldn't suggest bathing him/her in it, but a light spray hasn't hurt Curtis at all. Just watch out for those eyes (as if you can find them in all that fur anyway)! And as one final note, Curtis is my baby and I love him to death, so I wouldn't try something out on him that I wouldn't try on myself, so call me crazy :lol: , but I gave my own arm a little spray-down with Febreze as a test. My arm didn't turn purple or fall off or even itch, but I did have a pleasant, fresh-off-the-line smell for the rest of the day. :wink:
Warm thoughts...
I think you may be a bit confused. Hydrogen peroxide is used to treat cuts and scrapes, as a gargle and to clean skin --not dye hair. That's straight Peroxide/bleach. Hydrogen peroxide sold in grocery stores(so you can read the label) when poured on cuts cleans them and is safe for use on skin. They use it doctors offices all the time especially to take blood and other fluids off of skin and clothing. It is good to use it on their beards.I also use it to treat cuts and scrapes my family gets routinely--The label states" "may be used as a gargle. May also be used as a cleansing agent on minor cuts, scratches and abrasions of the skin..."you don't need gloves to use it! I can't believe how condescending the response to this method is with such a lack of proper information. Oh, and P.S. my dog is not burned, hurt or losing beard hair.
Did you actually read the reply? I stated TWICE that I had since been informed that there were dilute sprays available, and was therefore only stating my opinion (whatever happened to feedom of speech?) - my main concern, if you read the thread from the start, was with using Febreeze on the dog.

As for being "condescending" Ron (our beloved administrator) asked me directly about H202, and I notice that he hasn't taken umbridge at my mail.

If I offended others then i apologise.
Hi, I just thought that I would tell you a little method that I have using for my dog to stop her smelling! (she still has extremely sweaty paws though!)
After I wash her and dry her a bit I put in a 'leave in hair conditioner'. This has no irritation and if she gets sweaty you get a faint smell from the conditioner. I use a sensitive one. Also I have heard if you try soda water on the beard of your oes that should clean up the brownish marks - I havenot tried this though. Hope this helps. xx
Maybe I am just lucky, but the one thing I love best about my 3 sheepdogs is that they don't smell like dogs at all. They have a slight odor, only after being drenched in a heavy rain, if they have not been bathed in a while (we are talking 2 month or more here). I'm wondering if it could have to do with diet? Or maybe I just have a really bad nose.

They make some "clean sent" shampoos that work really well & you might want to try.

As far as the mouth hair......peroxide will make the problem worse. It makes the hair even more poris, and will stain even worse than before.
The best method I have found is to wash the face with shampoo, towel dry, but while still damp, work cornstarch into the hair so it is coated. (best done outside, or on a towel unless you want a mess). When it dries, brush all the corn starch out & it will take out most of the stain.
Truman our sheepie gets very smelly, especially when it's humid. I don't think I would spray him w/Febreeze. There are dry dog shampoos that you sprinkle on and brush out in between trips to the groomer. We did have to was him with hydrogen peroxide this summer when he got sprayed by a skunk. It's what our vet told us to do. A solution of hydrogen peroxide, baking soda & a skirt of dish soap. It took out the smell & also lightened the fur on his ears w/red highlights.
I don't remember, but our either of the dogs spayed females? Spayed females lose bladder control. The only time I had a stinky dog is when she lost it every time she slept due to a lack of hormones. Put her on hormones, no more stinky dog.
If they are not females or spayed, it could be thyroid problems or something about their diet.
My OES is like a cat, and spends a lot of time grooming herself. Still she wouldn't miss a chance to roll in the mud or a dead animal if she could find either.
As a groomer a few tips for you pet owners: Many groom shops use dawn soap to wash your dogs... It's safe!!!!! and inexpensive. I personally rescue dogs which are so skanky smelling that I use concentrated lemon juice after washing with dawn and work the lemon juice into the paws well, let set for about 10 minutes...If smell continues after being dried...rinse again just using the concentrated lemon juice. Please be careful not to get into the dogs eyes. There is also a dog cologne deopdorant for pets...Long Lasting fragrance, Delighful Room Freshener, Premium Perfume Oils by Farnam Pet Products. or call 1800 234-2269. You will love it. A little goes a long way.

Check your dogs ear hair...down inside the ear most dogs have hair. This hair will keep your dogs ears wet with wax build up and water. Ear infections, fungus and yeast and bacteria growth can be an expensive vet bill. It will also make your dog smell.....First clean the ears with alcohol, or h.Proxide. Then sprinkle the Ear Powder into the ear canal and with your fingers, pull out the hair that you can reach (you can even use tweezers or forceps) don't worry you won't go too far into the ear to hurt your dog, as the ear canal curves before you can reach the ear drum.. The ear powder has a numbing effect and therefore doesn't hurt the dog as much as it sounds. Leave the remaining powder in the ear to keep the ears dry.

Keep the hair under the paws between the toes cut short..Paws too can become infected and matted and make your dog smell.
Wash his paws and face (water only)

This might be a stupid question but how do you wsa his paws? Do you do it in the bath tube or with a rag or what? I just can't picture it.

Thanks!
Dawn detergent is a degreasing agent. This is what the bird sanctuary uses on seabirds when they caught in an oil spill (it happened here about 12 years ago). Birds came out fine.
About the skunk incident, didn't your vet suggest tomato juice? I thought that was the universal skunk oder fighter!
When we have muddy paws I just put some shampoo and water in a small bucket and dunk their feet one at a time. In a pinch I've used a small wastepaper basket.
I might have to do that with Sky today, and probably every day, until I figure out how to keep her out of the mud...lol....
Would Dancer wear boots? My dogs hate them and with 4 is more trouble putting/taking off then it;s worth.
Dancer would wear boots, but I don't have to worry about the mud with her, she is lil miss priss and won't step in the mud....lol...
This morning Sky came in soooo dirty, and Dancer clean, and dainty tip toeing on the dry spots. LOL
Sky would not wear boots, she would kick them off in a hurry. She likes dirt. Loves it in fact.
I think I'll just have to take her out on leash out front til the mud clears up. She has a show in 5 weeks. LOL
I fill the tub up a little and Pooh goes right in. He actually likes getting his feet washed. Last night I did his feet and legs since they got nasty at the dog park.
1) Febreze is not "basically perfume, cornstarch, and water" - Febreze is a solution of cyclodextrins, which are sugar-derived molecules invented in the 1980s that entrap smells and bind them to surfaces where they cannot be kicked up into the air.

2) It is not an "opinion" that hydrogen peroxide solution might be harmful. It is an established FACT that it is perfectly safe when used externally.


Guest - I edited your post as we do not tolerate the rudeness your post included. Useful information is welcome, flaming is not.
Willowsprite
Hmm, I THOUGHT one of the many FaBreze commercials states "it's even safe to put on your dog" then the person to spray their dog once ..............but then again, I am not 100%. I have the WORST memory now that I'm pregnant.

I don't use FaBreze, but I've bought it several times thinking I could start, but then don't know what to do with it. To me it leaves a funny smell afterwards that I don't find pleasant. Funny though that this topic came up because I'm going through "another stage" where I keep thinking "this time I'll use it" when we get to our new house. The commercials bring me in. Oh, not on my dog... just in general around the house. ;)
when i worked at the doggie daycare, there was this little jack russel terrier and im almost positive his owner sprayed him with cologne everyday. he smelled much better than all the other dogs!
Panda was very dirty after her beach romp....dark grey and light grey no black....I thought about using h.peroxide, but Jill had said that it was too pourous....and I thought, hmmmm, do I want her to stain worse than she does now???? So, I bought a whiting shampoo and a blacking shampoo, washed her once with each light first then the dark....and she turned out prissy white...lol...as for fabreeze, I wouldnt spray it on myself, so I wouldnt spray it on her....no matter what it contains.....

As a JOKE: When are they going to come out with pinesol scent????
They actually have a powder for dogs that you mix with over the counter peroxide. It's fine. It's not like "bleach" you'd use with volume 40 when you go to the beauty shop and get highlights.

We used it for our show dog. Never a problem and I'm anal about stuff like this.
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