Should I keep OES pup

OES growls and nips at children although they are just walking by or talking to her. Does that sound like something worth training or is it this particular dogs personality...poor breeding. I took her to puppy kindergarten for socialization and she was very aggressive toward the other dogs.... chasing, barking, biting at them. NO one else's dog was acting this way. The pup is 12 wks old. Please let me know what to do... I was under the impression that OES loved children and that basically the main concern was the herdig instinct not this type of behavior. We have had her for about a week....is it too soon to judge or is it just her personality... Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Nicole
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What is your experience level with dogs?
I wouldn't give up on the pup.
Are the children teasing the puppy? The pup needs to know it's place in the pack, your family. I would suggest reading some books, which I'm sure Kristen will tell you the names of since I can't remember :wink: to learn positive reinforcement training. For now I would have the dog sit and wait for everything, and have your kids provide food and water. It is important to never leave a dog and children unsupervised, no matter how good the dog or the kids are.
I think the dog may be scared of the kids. If the kids are louder and more active than the kind of environment the pup was used to it may take some time for it to adjust, the nipping and growling is not acceptable behavior, and I would say a firm NO! and make sure everyone ignores the pup when it behaves this way. Be sure to praise profusely when the pup exhibits the behavior you want. Good luck! :)
Nicole,

What is the background of the pup? Did she come from a socialized environment?

It also depends on the age of the children and their level of understanding how to behave with the puppy.

OES are active, exuberant puppies - and as you can see - can be problematic with children. Especially if they have had very little (if any) socialization as they were with the breeder.

Temperment is also critical - and is so important when selecting a puppy! This is why I talk so much about meeting the parents - and ensuring puppies are bred properly - because it is heartbreaking when they aren't!

I hope you find this can work out - but please get some help. Make sure only positive reinforcement training is used!

If you feel like you don't want to risk this with this pup - please contact Rescue to help you place her (don't resell her - you don't know who would buy her and what her future would bring - especially if she has behavior issues this young - she will need an experienced OES owner.).

Please contact me privately if you want to talk!!!! I would like to help you make this work!

Kristen
I know it is easy to become discouraged. But one week is really not enough time to make a decision on whether or not to keep a puppy.
Have you ever watched a group of puppies that age playing together. It is brutal. They nip an growl and shove at each other, it looks like a barroom brawl. But this is how they learn what is acceptable behavior with each other. When another pup walks awayand won't play anymore, the rough one gets taught a lesson, at least for a little while.

Ben is 14 weeks old. When we got him at 8 weeks, everytime we attempted to pet him, he would start chewing us up. We kept repeating NO BITE in a firm voice, and now he is much better. Oh, he will still try for the occasional munch, but he gives up very easily, just testing now.

I am new to OES, but I have had many rescue dogs through the years. Some of these dogs have had tremendous problems, but I have never had to give up on one. With time and consistancy, every one of them has come around and been a loving pet (OK, maybe not Lassie, but within the bounds of resonsable behavior)

Take heart, watch the kids carefully when with the dog, and take the experienced members of the forums advice. It takes a lot of time and patience to teach the dog what you want, but in almost all instances, the dog wants to please you, if only it knew how.
Just so we don't have duplicate threads, I am moving cerdata's reply to here and deleting the other thread :)

cerdata wrote:
Nicole:

I have a 6 month old OES puppy and I have never seen that behavior in sinbad, he's very social.. I will say toooo social.

I have two kids in the house visiting a 3 year old and a 5 year old and sinbad love them and the only problem is that sinbad is 50 pounds and sometimes is a little bit rough, but that's it. Also he's very social with other dogs too.

I don't really know if those behaviors can be corrected with training or socialization, I will recommend talk to your vet about it. Also the people in this forum is very helpful and they can give you good advise.
Have you considered keeping the pup and getting rid of the kids?

Sorry, it's the childless monster in me. I know, I'm no help. :)
Very funny butterscotch...:} but I have decided to keep them both,
and just give my sugar a little more time to adjust...I realized that she went from one home to another within 2 wks....I took her to the vet and then a puppy class and a new home all in a week of bringing her home.... also the prior home did not have children....it was probably too quick for the poor pup..... so I will give it some time and training. Thank you everyone for your response.....I don't know what I would do without this board....

Nicole
Yeah, don't give up!!!! These pups are a handfull, they are smart and love to get things thier way and it can go bad if left unchecked, but with a little love and patience, you'll get a loyal friend for life.
ButtersStotch wrote:
Have you considered keeping the pup and getting rid of the kids?

Sorry, it's the childless monster in me. I know, I'm no help. :)


What an idea!!! :twisted:
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