Hudson's breeder strikes again. I am so mad. (rant warning)

I did the right thing. I launched a formal complaint with the Canadian Kennel Club. They agreed to help me obtain a receipt, a health guarantee, and a registration certificate.

I waited and waited.

Finally, on the last day he was given by them to provide documentation he forwarded the information. I was called and told that the three documents were on their way from the kennel club.

Well, ONE arrived, and it's completely wrong.

His registration certificate has the wrong date of birth and the wrong parents. He told us about the other litter (a much earlier one) and we wanted to wait for Hudson. (True evil takes time. :lol: ) But he registered Hudson as being much older and with a different mother. Which now makes the certificate a waste of time. According to him Hudson arrived at the age of nearly five months (not ten weeks) and was twelve pounds at that time. Sure.

Also, no other documentation came with it. And the kennel club sent a cheery letter saying they were happy to have assisted me and the matter was now closed. Could they not have taken one minute to look at the information? I submitted everything I had, and they had all sorts of stuff (including emails HE sent with the correct information before Hudson arrived) but whatever he sends in after having to be chased must be right. His word trumps everything I have in writing (including things he wrote himself!)

So, I wrote back, and they forwarded my receipt and health guarantee (as he submitted to them). The receipt is dated November 2008 and has "copy of receipt sent to owners WITH puppy when shipped" is written on it.

Nice trick, since Hudson arrived in May and the receipt clearly shows it wasn't even printed until November. In short, he fabricated it well after the fact, back dated it, and didn't even stop to think of how far back he should have done it. And the kennel club just rubber stamped it. I've talked to the same woman nearly a dozen times long distance, and we've exchanged numerous emails. Why wouldn't they at least glance at the document?

And the health guarantee is a little blurb on a prepurchase agreement which he never actually signed, nor does it have his name, kennel, or anything else on it. I can't imagine it would help at all if I needed to invoke it.

I am livid.

Now I know I'm a stickler. When I sent him my cheque (remember Hudson was shipped to us - there are no local breeders), he promised me a receipt, health guarantee, and registerable puppy would all arrive together. I know that the important thing is Hudson, and we love him very much, but it makes me crazy that someone can get away with not fulfilling any of the promises (all are clearly listed on his website and were told verbally to us, and in emails, repeatedly).

And, I've now asked the kennel club three times if there's a complaint formally on record against him so that anyone who calls to check before purchasing will know what we've gone through, and they have dodged/ignored my question each time. I think that may well be my answer right there.

I am not a mean person, and had a good relationship with previous breeders, so it's not like I'm impossible to satisfy. I know that, in theory, when the documents didn't arrive with Hudson I should have refused delivery, but what kind of monster would EVER do that to a puppy? If he'd shown up and been a rat in a dog suit I'd still have loved him and given him a great home. But I HATE being taken advantage of like this.

Sorry for the non-stop ranting. I'm just so mad. And, as someone who always does the right thing - always plays by the rules - always considers others first - I can't understand people who lie. And it appears, he'll be getting away with it.
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Oh NO :(
You have my greatest sympathy, you must feel awful. If it helps, I am mad at him too on your behalf :evil:

Are there no other authorities you can report to? Trading Standards or similar? People need to be warned about this idiot. You have done so well to keep trying, it's a shame they are so far away and there are no local breeders.

:ghug:
It seems like it would be more work to fabricate stuff and send the wrong records than just send what he's supposed to, you know?

I can definitely understand wanting his correct papers but are you pursuing the other documents mostly on principle (which I can also totally understand)? I was just thinking, a health guarantee from this breeder sounds like it would be as useful as a bucket of hamster vomit considering how annoying he's been just about paperwork.
Can you take this to small claims court? Seems that it might be a different way to put your experience with this breeder on the record. If you win the case, maybe send the judge's ruling to the kennel club via certified mail so it's also part of their records.
I don't know how the Canadian legal system works so don't know if you have a legal case. Is there a reason why you'd need these documents....say for show purposes.....even in the future that you never considered before (hint). If so, then you'd need proper documents and the breeder and CKC have failed you and you would have a claim with both. Breech of contract might work here.
I would try again with the CKC, photocopy everything from the certificates/documentation they sent you, all the previous correspondence between you and the breeder and even the date you paid for him etc with a copy also of the cashed cheque with a covering letter to the CKC explaining everything again and including the registration certificate a copy of that with telling them in writing that the certificate is fraud as it has the wrong birth date and wrong sire and dam on it and you also want to report this breeder as being unethical, send it registered mail to them so you know all arrived there and see what happens, they will have to sign for it so you know it all got there too. :wink:

Dont e-mail letters etc OR CALL ON THE PHONE, send everything photocopied to them the CKC in writing by registered mail. With a full copy of everything you send them for your files too and would send a copy of all that "registered mail" also to the "breeder" as well, might scare them into doing the right thing too knowing the CKC has all this on file in writing and would also in the covering letter put in writing as well an "official complaint" AGAIN to the CKC on this breeder let that breeder have a copy of the covering letter as well so they know all this documentation ihas been sent to the CKC. :wink:

Keeping fingers crossed for you and hope all this is fixed soon and you get what you were promised. Stay on top of it and dont let the breeder get away with it. Know it is frustrating, but honesty and integrity will win out in the end we hope and a breeder like this will either be shut down, de-registered from the CKC or start doing the correct thing by all. :crossed:

If none of this works is there a "Small Claims" type of system in the legal side of things in Canada that you could file a complaint with for compensation against this breeder?
What about also contacting the local better business bureau?

My aunt once said she would contact the local TV person who did little segments on the news about local rip-offs. Let me tell you the people who were giving her the run around soon stepped up to the plate and did right. CTV used to have Goldhawk on the national news that did stuff like that. Maybe that would help?
I can understand your disappointment but I feel you are wasting time, energy and money in a lost cause. It is annoying but lastly you have a lovely sheepie and just enjoy him and forget the breeder, write him off and you know never to go back to them for another pup.

Although the kennel clubs are supposed to attend and regulate these thing you will find that they are more interested in other things.

Best of luck and put this down to learning by doing.
Hm. I don't know how the CKC works, but complaints like these raise red flags with the AKC and can (and should) lead to an investigation into his record keeping if nothing else since he can't seem to recall which puppy he sold you even :roll: . I would do as I think it was Lisa suggested and send them all of your info again in writing, reg. mail, and formally ask them to investigate the person. No, it probably won't get you much of anything (other than knowing you may have helped someone else) and, yes, I agree with Jill that the written health guarantee etc is in any event worthless (hamster vomit, Jill??? 8O 8) )

And, yeah, Stewart, I would be more likely to just write it off as not worth the effort, but she's put this much effort into getting this stuff straightened out. At this point I think I'd be more upset with the CKC than the obviously useless breeder.

Very frustrating.

Kristine
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