Forum Cookbook

I came up with a idea to put together a OES Forum Cookbook.
I have printed so many great recipes here.
I started to put together a binder when I got this idea.
I posted it on the chicken crockpot one and got a nice responce.
Debcram came up with a even better idea to add.
Sell this book and give the money to OES rescue.
I am not sure how we can put this book together and get it printed, but I would love all of your thoughts, ideas, help.

Deana

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It is a good idea.

Our basset rescue put together a cookbook 2 years ago , had it printed and sold them for $10. We have a just few left from the 1st printing and are considering going into a 2nd edition.

sounds good to me !

zoe and einy

Well probably half of the recipes are mine, and I save the recipes I want t o try, so I pretty much already have a book.

There are many sites such as shutterfly that let you put together a recipe book. It would take a lot of work on someone's part, as I've been doing it myself for some time. If someone did take the time, I'd appreciate if each submitter/cook was credited for the recipe they posted esp. if pics were used.

I agree Mrs.J. Give credit where it is due.
You will be the biggest one to have so many.
We need to remember that if anyone got a recipe from the net that they tell who it was.
Thanks for your input. I look forward to more from you..

Actually that is a good point. Copyrighted recipes could not be placed in a book and republished or anything I don't believe, and I'm not sure those who have posted recipes remember where they got them all. The idea is great and would be nice if someone is just printed out on word all the recipes using the ol copy/paste method and then into a binder ...but past that, I'm not sure it's a good idea for legal reasons.

Joahaeyo wrote:

I am going to go out on a limb here--- and say I would be willing to undertake this project....

I was thinking about an easy way to do this. I am not sure about all of the legal aspects, however, as far as compiling, printing and binding, I can easily do that. If we want something just for members, with no selling involved that is an easy project. Anyone that wishes to participate could send their recipe(s) to me via email. We will have a deadline for submission. I could then format- print and bind these books. Then... I can send to all members who want to participate. We could work out the shipping details, but, that should be easy enough. Now... if you want to sell them-- we will need to discuss that. I can do those books, but not sure if permits ect are required etc.....

Thoughts????

Mmmm, could they be sold through a non profit rescue? And it would be nice to have a small dog treat section, I have tons of recipes for those.

I AM NOT A LAWYER, but it has been my impression that individual recipes are generally not copyrightable. The listing of ingredients is definitely not copyrightable and the instructions would need to be more than sinmple combination directions. Compilations of recipes would likely be copyrightable.

For a very small printing of books, I don't think it would make any substantial difference in terms of copyright issues to sell the compilation through a non-profit organization or to give it away for free. I think if it were found to be infinging the damages wouldn't be much different if $1,000 of profit had been collected or if $10 had been collected, and damages would have to be proved up, likely impractical. If the work had been a registered copyright then statutory damages would apply if found to be infringing; I don't know how statutory damages are calculated.

But I'm not a lawyer, so my advice is worthless and should be taken as such.

I guess I missed this yesterday :oops:

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Of course each recipe would be credited to the contributor, and the proper credit given to their SHEEPIES!

How fun!!!!!

Yea Deana!!! Thanks for this. And Arbuckie..WOW THANK YOU!!!!

Our basset one lists all contributors - listed at the top of each recipe, along with any notes/comments from the contributor.

We also have a section of dog treats/snacks/foods too - a separate chapter just for that!

is there a way of putting up a list of section that we can add to.
If we start there then the recipes will fit perfect

Okay, I asked my brother (a lawyer) what his general legal thoughts were about the cookbook and here's what he said (oh, and the Bisquick is b/c I just used that as a random example of what if someone submitted 'their' recipe that really came verbatim from the back of a Bisquick box):

"You have to get permission to use someone else's recipe, whether it's Bisquick, a book, or your neighbor across the street - it's their intellectual property. If you want to protect yourselves in case someone's using someone else's recipe, you should all sign something that says that the recipes you contribute belong to you, that you give the sheepdog forum the right to use them, and that each person will indemnify everyone else involved in the cookbook if anyone brings a suit over the use of a recipe. So if Bisquick says that John D.'s recipe infringes on them, he's the only who has to pay to defend the suit."

okay, heres a question though...i have several cookbooks that were compiled from either church, neighborhood, firestation and moms old workplace...

all they have on them, is the name of the contributor....no copyrights or infringement stuff......

Ya know....I think it would be impossible to copyright a recipe. All you need to do is change 1 thing, and could change the recipe.

I think that's why so many civic organization do cookbooks as fundraisers.
(Hi Darcy...I miss you!)

I think what my brother was saying is what needs to be done in case you want to protect your own recipe and have credit for it. I don't think you need to have things in writing, or just have something like if you submit a recipe specifically in the OES Cookbook thread, you are giving your permission to have it printed, or something to that effect.

But I think most people who submit recipes to charity (church, rescue, etc) know that their recipe will be published and are agreeing to it.

I just asked him for his legal thoughts. He also said he could draw up some documents for it if we needed it.

thats great! one more thing out of the way :lol:

What if we use a recipe that is on the net, but change some of the things
in it. Mamy times I see a recipe that I leave out things or change it. What do we do then?

I would think that even with a change...as I always do the same thing debcram mentioned (Change it up to make it my own), someone can still claim it was their recipe if it was published first. Technically....

If it was just sold among ourselves, assuming there was a big enough interest, then I doubt it would matter. Or just brought to picnics. We don't have to put it on a website or anything.

Abuckie mentioned maybe just accepting the recipes actually emailed to her? Maybe I heard wrong, but as I said.. glad someone else is interested in doing this b/c it seems like too much to do for something that probably can't be sold for much. ~

Joahaeyo wrote:

Well.... here is what I was thinkin'...

1) people who are interested in participating will email me their recipes, along with a picture if they wish.

2) We can agree on a deadline for submission, and after all recipes are collected, I will format- print and bind the books. (free of charge of course) It may be fun to include pictures of our dogs too... maybe in the back of the book-- just throwing ideas out here...

3) Now --- are we just going to send them to those interested OR are we going to sell them??? If we sell them- how will we collect the $$$ ..... we will need to decide on the resuce to support etc.

4) I could sent them out-- and possibley you could send a check to Ron- or anyone that wants to take on that responisbility. I can-- but, would want that to be a group decision....

5) As far as the legal issues--- chime in with what we should do.... For me, anything I would post would be a family recipe, or something I found in a church or organization cookbook- like the old Grange book I use. I would have no idea who to give credit to -- besides Grandma or Mom!!!!

If we are serious, let's work out the plans and get started! I can always print several extra's that can be sold at Vet's offices- etc in your area's too....

I asked my brother if it was illegal to do it informally, like without getting legal forms written up, and he said no. Here's what he said:

"No, there's nothing illegal about it. The only reason people write contracts and stuff like that is so that everyone's on the same page, to prevent disputes later on, and to protect their interests in case something comes up (like if Bisquick sues you). Most of the time, you don't need it, because things go smoothly. So there's nothing wrong with doing it informally. It's just something to think about."