my new boys testicles

Hi, can anyone tell me when a male dogs testicles should be out where you can see them. My boy is nearly four months old and I'm still waiting. I have seen other pups of different breeds and their little doflickies are small yet visable. I'm getting worried. :oops:
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They may just be undescended. When we got our two boys (littermates), one already had them out, and the other didn't. When we went to neuter (at six months) one was neutered and the other had a different surgery (went into the abdomen to take them out). It was more like a spay.

It's not uncommon for them to not descend. Our current terror, Hudson, had really....um....ginormous ones :oops: and I'm fairly sure they were out and about when he got here, at ten weeks. Sorry for the quantitative comment, but we've always had male dogs, and they were significantly bigger than any I'd ever seen. Also, Hudson's bravado is significantly bigger than I've ever seen in a sheepie, so I think there was a definite connection.

Anyway, my best advice is...ask your vet about it.
Other than B.J , our oes we had fifteen years ago, all my dogs have been girls. B.J's dangly bits never dropped and even though he had been operated on, he suffered all sorts of problems. He was a vet's dream. But the time he passed , we had spent thousands trying to find what was wrong with him. It tuned out that he had testicular cancer. Unfortunately it had set in before we had him done. This is why I'm worried about Scooby. When I took him to the vet for his shots the vet examined him but didn't mention it.
I'd make an appointment to talk to the vet about it. Our Theeps had his removed (undescended) at six months and it was no problem at all. I know that if they are undescended there's an increased risk of cancer, but I think it's a slight risk if you have them neutered at an early age.

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog BJ. How old was he when he passed?

I think a conversation with your vet would be most helpful. When we did our first puppy checks (the day after we brought them home) our vet pointed out the problem with ThePas right away. He said it wasn't a big deal, especially since we were planning to neuter them both at six months. It just upped the cost of the surgery a bit. In fact, our bill listed it as a spay instead of a neuter.

Give your vet a call. I'd also ask why he didn't mention it. It seems odd to me.
B.J. was only seven when he passed. He had lots of other problems to. Epilepsy, a skin complaint that just wouldn't heal and it was a daily struggle to maintain his weight. When I look back, everyday was a different problem. He came from a breeder in Port Pirie, Sth Aust. It's out woop woop where all the lead smelters and mines are. Thousands of kids from there are diagnosed with dangerously high levels of lead in their bodies, so our vet thinks that was where his problems started. His mum belonged to the breeder and had lived there since a pup but his dad belonged to a friend from another state. All male pups in the litter had the same problems
By four months you would expect those dangles to be seen in the scrotum.

Next vet appointment get the vet to feel, dont do it yourself as you dont want to hurt him. The vet can detect from feel if there present or not, they can also feel if they will come down or not. Sometimes they can tuck them up at that age, they reticulate up and down from the scrotom due to immaturity.

So you really need a vet assessment on them, undescended as he matures he will have to be neutered later on. Usually by about 6 months if there not permantely down in the scrotum then there could be a possible problem of them never coming down.
I keep putting the vet visit off because I think I already know the outcome and I feel winded just thinking about it. While we were going through this with B.J. we were also nursing our 15 year old oes through mammary cancer. She had never had pups, B.J. was desexed so since we live in the middle of nowhere puppies were never going to be an issue. I found out later 50% of females can get this if they are not desexed nor have had pups. I could kick myself now. I think vets should have a responsibility to mention this statistic at checkups.
MING wrote:
I keep putting the vet visit off because I think I already know the outcome and I feel winded just thinking about it. While we were going through this with B.J. we were also nursing our 15 year old oes through mammary cancer. She had never had pups, B.J. was desexed so since we live in the middle of nowhere puppies were never going to be an issue. I found out later 50% of females can get this if they are not desexed nor have had pups. I could kick myself now. I think vets should have a responsibility to mention this statistic at checkups.


wow - most vets dote on that one - but I think the real statistics are, one out of four intact dogs over the age of four will develop one or more mammary tumors, 50% of these are benign. Mammary tumors account for one half of all the tumors in dogs. Of the cancerous tumors complete surgical removal is often curative. Intact females have a 7 times greater chance of developing a mammary tumor than spayed females.

Dogs have the highest incidence of breast cancer of any mammal.

One of the problems with tumors in dogs is half have metastasized by the time they are brought to the vet.
I found them!!! They were always there but I was looking in the wrong place. The vet had checked them before and all was o.k. He just didn't mention it. I was getting very worried. It's usually only my car keys I can never find!!
MING wrote:
It's usually only my car keys I can never find!!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Great news on your boy, see vets know where to feel for those dangles. 8) Glad there both there now get use to feeling for them. I always say wether a dog or bitch know every inch of your dog and learn to feel every aspect of the anatomy. That way as they get older you can pick up any changes that are out of the ordinary.

YAY Dangles are dangling. :cheer:
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They were always there but I was looking in the wrong place.


Where were you looking? 8O
I was looking too far back towards his tail. I didn't realise they were closer to his other bits. My vet is deaf and he relies a lot on people looking him straight in the eyes and a lot of hand signals so he can understand people. I didn't think pointing to his crutch and trying to get my message across was appropriate.
MING wrote:
I was looking too far back towards his tail. I didn't realise they were closer to his other bits. My vet is deaf and he relies a lot on people looking him straight in the eyes and a lot of hand signals so he can understand people. I didn't think pointing to his crutch and trying to get my message across was appropriate.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for the laugh! :D 8) :lol: Happy the dangles were found. :wink:

Kristine
Wow, a deaf vet! That's got to be difficult to communicate. No, pointing to his own dangles would not have been appropriate :lol: and nothing to say, very awkward. 8O
:lol: :oops: oookaay! :lol:
Glad to hear you found them! I am sure that he wants to keep them as long as he can!

Off subject a bit...but when I was growing up, my parents got a female Wheaten Terrier from a breeder, and after a few months (before being spayed) she began to have some "growth" in her v-j-j. It ended up where she had a testicle, uterus, and was growing what they called an ospenis (sp?). When we contacted the breeders about our X-X-Y female, they pretty much said that they did not "produce" that dog. She is an AWESOME dog that had to be spayed and neutered! It was funny seeing both of them circled on the pet-surgery board and on all of the forms! Mackenzie is now a case study for the University of Minnesota Veterinary School.
:lol: :lol: at the pointing bit but so happy your little one is fine :D
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